Question: I overtake, car matches my speed and I have to
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Red Devil said:
Which bit was it?
edit - here is where the overtake begins:https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=53.495348,-1.82860...
It's the Woodhead pass, not the snake pass. A628. My bad.
Edited by gavsdavs on Tuesday 4th November 15:06
Edited by gavsdavs on Tuesday 4th November 18:01
Dangerous game to play!
MR2 and MX5 people try and block me, in my VXR generally their 1.9TDI couldn't quite match the acceleration although as someone mentioned earlier i found it prudent to judge the situation and in some cases not indicate as you can sometimes tell when someone will be a pleb!
Plus who expects a red VXR to indicate and be driven slowly anyway ... May as well live up to the stereotype.
MR2 and MX5 people try and block me, in my VXR generally their 1.9TDI couldn't quite match the acceleration although as someone mentioned earlier i found it prudent to judge the situation and in some cases not indicate as you can sometimes tell when someone will be a pleb!
Plus who expects a red VXR to indicate and be driven slowly anyway ... May as well live up to the stereotype.
Happened a few times overs the years, only when I had an MX5 or a hot hatch!
Now if it happened regardless of car I was in, I would ease off and pull in behind them
Not worth the agro, even if you have a much faster car, you still have the idiot behind you, so when you hit a roundabout/30 zone you have them behind , I'd rather have a nutter in front of me, where I can see them, or just pull over . Plus it scares the s
t out of kids/passengers, much wiser to ease off and brake in, before you see a car coming/or a corner. If you had an accident it could be interpreted as racing..
Also, I've had it happen when I was overtaking in a much powerful car, so at the last minute they tried to swerve out trying to put me in the ditch!
Now if it happened regardless of car I was in, I would ease off and pull in behind them
Not worth the agro, even if you have a much faster car, you still have the idiot behind you, so when you hit a roundabout/30 zone you have them behind , I'd rather have a nutter in front of me, where I can see them, or just pull over . Plus it scares the s
t out of kids/passengers, much wiser to ease off and brake in, before you see a car coming/or a corner. If you had an accident it could be interpreted as racing..Also, I've had it happen when I was overtaking in a much powerful car, so at the last minute they tried to swerve out trying to put me in the ditch!
gavsdavs said:
Red Devil said:
Which bit was it?
edit - here is where the overtake begins:https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=53.495348,-1.82860...
It's the Woodhead pass, not the snake pass. A628. My bad.
At that point with the road bending to the left!
Doesn't look to me anywhere near 600 metres before the vanishing point.
Also, with 13 cars + a truck ahead of you I'm amazed that you could even see it.
Now if you had said here (after the hatching ends) that would be different.
Trexthedinosaur said:
Dangerous game to play!
MR2 and MX5 people try and block me, in my VXR generally their 1.9TDI couldn't quite match the acceleration although as someone mentioned earlier i found it prudent to judge the situation and in some cases not indicate as you can sometimes tell when someone will be a pleb!
MR2 and MX5 people try and block me, in my VXR generally their 1.9TDI couldn't quite match the acceleration although as someone mentioned earlier i found it prudent to judge the situation and in some cases not indicate as you can sometimes tell when someone will be a pleb!
- Since when has any MR2 or MX5 had a turbo diesel injection engine? Your post makes no sense when matched with your profile.WD39 said:
After a couple of incidents like the ones described in this thread, I decided NOT to overtake except:
Dual carriageways/motorways.
Very slow farm vehicles or the like.
Cyclists.
Much more relaxing and stress free.
Seriously? Then leave a massive gap to let others overtake you and the slower car in front. Failing to overtake is the main reason our A roads are so slow.Dual carriageways/motorways.
Very slow farm vehicles or the like.
Cyclists.
Much more relaxing and stress free.
ORD said:
WD39 said:
After a couple of incidents like the ones described in this thread, I decided NOT to overtake except:
Dual carriageways/motorways.
Very slow farm vehicles or the like.
Cyclists.
Much more relaxing and stress free.
Seriously? Then leave a massive gap to let others overtake you and the slower car in front. Failing to overtake is the main reason our A roads are so slow.Dual carriageways/motorways.
Very slow farm vehicles or the like.
Cyclists.
Much more relaxing and stress free.
My father taught me about this when I was learning to drive. He told me to always make sure that when I'd committed sufficiently to an overtake to the extent that the overtaken driver has seen what I'm doing I should be in a low enough gear and with enough speed that by the time he's thought about being a dick I had already pulled back in!
It's always worked for me!
It's always worked for me!
Often use these kind of drivers as the reason cameras fail to help. Drive like this, terrorizing everyone but make sure you slow for the cameras and you risk little ever happening to your license.
Makes you wonder how many accidents these clowns create. Has happened to me a few times and depending on the car, I have bombed it past or pulled back in for one very simple reason:
Any oncoming car is totally innocent in this situation and did nothing to warrant being scared or even worse.
And it also sickens me to think if I did get the red mist, balls it all up and hit the innocent oncoming car, the clown not wanting me to overtake would just carry on and not be held at all accountable for their actions.
Makes you wonder how many accidents these clowns create. Has happened to me a few times and depending on the car, I have bombed it past or pulled back in for one very simple reason:
Any oncoming car is totally innocent in this situation and did nothing to warrant being scared or even worse.
And it also sickens me to think if I did get the red mist, balls it all up and hit the innocent oncoming car, the clown not wanting me to overtake would just carry on and not be held at all accountable for their actions.
gavsdavs said:
edit - here is where the overtake begins:
https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=53.495348,-1.82860...
It's the Woodhead pass, not the snake pass. A628. My bad.
Why are there double white lines on the bridge before that bit, it's lovely and straight and https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=53.495348,-1.82860...
It's the Woodhead pass, not the snake pass. A628. My bad.
Edited by gavsdavs on Tuesday 4th November 15:06
Edited by gavsdavs on Tuesday 4th November 18:01
I always see people missing perfectly good opportunities to overtake on Woodhead, then deciding to have a go on the double white parts. I don't have the stones for passing any more than two cars at once on Woodhead.
Edited by Spooge on Tuesday 30th December 13:33
Hol said:
Were you on your bike?
Bikers have a particular bad habit of pulling into the gap between two cars (that the second car had delivberately left for safe braking distance between his bonnet and the car in fronts boot) and then deciding they need more distance themselves and the original front car.
To the biker this may seem like a valid overtake, but to everybody who is not a biker luvvy it is much more simple - somebody has just forced themselves into their braking zone and made me brake to now allow the biker to in the gap that now needs to be a lot longer.
In no other part of life away from the road (supermarket queue/ busy footpath/ escallator/ cinema queue/ airport queue/ ski slope/ etc), would such behaviour be considered correct.
Have you ever zip merged?Bikers have a particular bad habit of pulling into the gap between two cars (that the second car had delivberately left for safe braking distance between his bonnet and the car in fronts boot) and then deciding they need more distance themselves and the original front car.
To the biker this may seem like a valid overtake, but to everybody who is not a biker luvvy it is much more simple - somebody has just forced themselves into their braking zone and made me brake to now allow the biker to in the gap that now needs to be a lot longer.
In no other part of life away from the road (supermarket queue/ busy footpath/ escallator/ cinema queue/ airport queue/ ski slope/ etc), would such behaviour be considered correct.
WD39 said:
ORD said:
WD39 said:
After a couple of incidents like the ones described in this thread, I decided NOT to overtake except:
Dual carriageways/motorways.
Very slow farm vehicles or the like.
Cyclists.
Much more relaxing and stress free.
Seriously? Then leave a massive gap to let others overtake you and the slower car in front. Failing to overtake is the main reason our A roads are so slow.Dual carriageways/motorways.
Very slow farm vehicles or the like.
Cyclists.
Much more relaxing and stress free.
9mm said:
As stated earlier in this thread and others, many people now think all overtaking is wrong, all speed kills, sitting in the outer lane is fine because I'm travelling at the speed limit, etc and the sooner these morons are educated the better.
"Morons"? That's not a nice way to talk about DevilVipersHereWeGoJumboPitman72. I agree with them that each and every incident in this thread is quite clearly 100% the fault of the (attempted) overtaker, since if they had just been patient and not tried to aggressively speed past the poor victim then there would have been no problem. It's better to arrive late than not at all! In fact, why not arrive later still and take the bus?Studies have shown that anyone who tries to overtake is attempting to compensate for having a small dick and should SLOW DOWN!
Phatboy317 said:
Hol said:
HertsBiker said:
Some genius tried to prevent my overtake today and only succeeded in having to anchor up when I pulled into the space I had chosen to end up in. Lots of light flashing, I waved an ambiguous thanks and ignored the pleb. If he hadn't tried to close the gap he wouldn't had had to brake. Why do they do this sort of thing? Then to get all angry at me. Ironically I only overtook because another driver had pulled out on me.
Were you on your bike?Bikers have a particular bad habit of pulling into the gap between two cars (that the second car had delivberately left for safe braking distance between his bonnet and the car in fronts boot) and then deciding they need more distance themselves and the original front car.
To the biker this may seem like a valid overtake, but to everybody who is not a biker luvvy it is much more simple - somebody has just forced themselves into their braking zone and made me brake to now allow the biker to in the gap that now needs to be a lot longer.
In no other part of life away from the road (supermarket queue/ busy footpath/ escallator/ cinema queue/ airport queue/ ski slope/ etc), would such behaviour be considered correct.
Have you read the original posting, I answered?
Hol said:
Phatboy317 said:
Hol said:
HertsBiker said:
Some genius tried to prevent my overtake today and only succeeded in having to anchor up when I pulled into the space I had chosen to end up in. Lots of light flashing, I waved an ambiguous thanks and ignored the pleb. If he hadn't tried to close the gap he wouldn't had had to brake. Why do they do this sort of thing? Then to get all angry at me. Ironically I only overtook because another driver had pulled out on me.
Were you on your bike?Bikers have a particular bad habit of pulling into the gap between two cars (that the second car had delivberately left for safe braking distance between his bonnet and the car in fronts boot) and then deciding they need more distance themselves and the original front car.
To the biker this may seem like a valid overtake, but to everybody who is not a biker luvvy it is much more simple - somebody has just forced themselves into their braking zone and made me brake to now allow the biker to in the gap that now needs to be a lot longer.
In no other part of life away from the road (supermarket queue/ busy footpath/ escallator/ cinema queue/ airport queue/ ski slope/ etc), would such behaviour be considered correct.
Have you read the original posting, I answered?
And it sounded very much like you were condoning the action of deliberately closing a gap to prevent an overtake - apologies if I misread.
So I was just wondering how you manage zip-merging if you cannot tolerate a temporary closing of gaps - surely zip-merging is acceptable behaviour, unlike unnecessarily acting to impede another person's lawful progress.
Phatboy317 said:
Hol said:
Were you on your bike?
Bikers have a particular bad habit of pulling into the gap between two cars (that the second car had delivberately left for safe braking distance between his bonnet and the car in fronts boot) and then deciding they need more distance themselves and the original front car.
To the biker this may seem like a valid overtake, but to everybody who is not a biker luvvy it is much more simple - somebody has just forced themselves into their braking zone and made me brake to now allow the biker to in the gap that now needs to be a lot longer.
In no other part of life away from the road (supermarket queue/ busy footpath/ escallator/ cinema queue/ airport queue/ ski slope/ etc), would such behaviour be considered correct.
Have you ever zip merged?Bikers have a particular bad habit of pulling into the gap between two cars (that the second car had delivberately left for safe braking distance between his bonnet and the car in fronts boot) and then deciding they need more distance themselves and the original front car.
To the biker this may seem like a valid overtake, but to everybody who is not a biker luvvy it is much more simple - somebody has just forced themselves into their braking zone and made me brake to now allow the biker to in the gap that now needs to be a lot longer.
In no other part of life away from the road (supermarket queue/ busy footpath/ escallator/ cinema queue/ airport queue/ ski slope/ etc), would such behaviour be considered correct.
Take your point that some might misjudge and pull in, causing the car driver to brake but hey, is rare and no way am I going to stress a biker anyhow, he has too much to lose if he falls.
As said, unlikely he will hang around.
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