£80 fine for litter dropping!

[BritishRacinGrin]

Terminator X said:

Whilst littering is bad enough what really gets my goat is the lazy s who can't return their trolley to the trolley bay about 10ft away

TX.

Whilst highly annoying it does at least keep the most socially challenged teenage supermarket employees in a steady job.

[jdw100]

Breadvan72 said:

If I see someone dropping litter, I may pick it up and give it to them, or at least ask politely them not to drop litter. I sometimes get a mouthful of sweariness, but I carry on. I add that I am neither powerfully built nor do I have a goatee. I am a director of no companies.

Edited by Breadvan72 on Monday 3rd September 13:50

Good for you.

I do the same, usually starting with "excuse me but I think you dropped this..."

Mostly works as people are embarrassed and this gives them a way out.

[Dairymilk]

Gandahar said:

Got back from a 100 mile drive last night with Mrs Gandahar and parked up in Mcdonalds for a neo expense spared slap up supper for two. She went in and I parked.

Other side of the car park two Ben Elton style young adults with caps on backwards in a C1 windows open.

Eat their meal

Drop the chip container out the window
Then the burger carton
Then the drinks cup

There's a bin about 10m away, but that's too far.

The sad thing is that this seems normal to them. In the future normal might be something more antisocial.

Very sad that it's not been ingrained at all that this is not acceptable.

Having their caps on backwards makes me want to have them interred in some form of corrective institute but the worst unsocial action I take is to simply say "your cap's on backwards mate!" Are they too stupid to realise that the cap has a peak at the front to stop them walking into walls? Same goes for those tts on TOWIE and Arses from Chelsea or whatever it is called.

Maybe dropping litter is a symptom of the attitudes and intellect from that crap.

The old days weren't any better as can be seen by the carpets of discarded gum and fag-ends we have all ploughed through for years.

Let biodegradable stuff rot in bins before being disposed of by the fine services we pay a fortune for...give them some help though and bin your crap...yes that's you, you swivel-capped retard...etc...grumpy...etc

Edited by Dairymilk on Monday 21st July 12:16

[a311]

Dairymilk said:

Gandahar said:

Got back from a 100 mile drive last night with Mrs Gandahar and parked up in Mcdonalds for a neo expense spared slap up supper for two. She went in and I parked.

Other side of the car park two Ben Elton style young adults with caps on backwards in a C1 windows open.

Eat their meal

Drop the chip container out the window
Then the burger carton
Then the drinks cup

There's a bin about 10m away, but that's too far.

The sad thing is that this seems normal to them. In the future normal might be something more antisocial.

Very sad that it's not been ingrained at all that this is not acceptable.

Having their caps on backwards makes me want to have them interred in some form of corrective institute but the worst unsocial action I take is to simply say "your cap's on backwards mate!" Are they too stupid to realise that the cap has a peak at the front to stop them walking into walls? Same goes for those tts on TOWIE and Arses from Chelsea or whatever it is called.

Maybe dropping litter is a symptom of the attitudes and intellect from that crap.

The old days weren't any better as can be seen by the carpets of discarded gum and fag-ends we have all ploughed through for years.

Let biodegradable stuff rot in bins before being disposed of by the fine services we pay a fortune for...give them some help though and bin your crap...yes that's you, you swivel-capped retard...etc...grumpy...etc

Edited by Dairymilk on Monday 21st July 12:16

The done thing with McDonalds drive through seems to drop your litter at your arse regardless of where you are. I live on an access only road and whilst walking the dog last night there was what looked like enough empty McDonalds container to feed a dozen people, happens from time to time. I can't really knock McD's as they are seen occasionally going out into the community and collecting all litter. Fine and name and shame people who litter I say.

Another that annoys me being a dog owner, those who pick their dogs excrement up but then just leave it in a bag either by the side of the path or as seems popular in my local park to hang it from a tree branch! Don't get this it would be better left to wash away surely? You will get some Nazi enforcement officers too though, there are a few examples on You Tube-can't get access to post the links but I recall one where enforcement officer goes into shop to drag OAP out that he alleges seeing drop a cigarette stump.

[tenpenceshort]

They should ensure that beside every McDonalds is a KFC. That way when the yoofs discard their Big Mac detritus out the window it lands in an empty Bargain Bucket left behind by other yoofs.

[tbc]

In Belfast they have litter wardens dressed up to look like coppers who parade the centre.

£80 fine for dropping a bus ticket and they actually follow and harass people going back to work or into shops.

Then on the 12th of July (Orangefest). All the litter wardens disappear on holiday

no litter wardens and drinking in the street in permitted when on any other day would result in a fine.

I've actually witnessed old men sitting on benches (not drunks just people out shopping ) having a can pulled off them and poured to the drain.

But it seems on the 12th anything goes.

[Joeguard1990]

In answer to the original post - No you don't need to give them any details and aren't obliged to. Just keep walking, don't let them stop you and put on a brave face. Or if you really wanted to, give a fake name and address. It's just a form they fill in and sort out later.

Or just don't litter in the first place - problem solved.

[anonymous-user]

Joeguard1990 said:

In answer to the original post - No you don't need to give them any details and aren't obliged to.

That's not true. It's an offence here.

[Joeguard1990]

La Liga said:

Joeguard1990 said:

In answer to the original post - No you don't need to give them any details and aren't obliged to.

That's not true. It's an offence here.

And what are they going to do if you don't give them info? Arrest you? Detain you? no of course not because they don't have the powers to do so. so make sure you get out of there before a real Police Officer turns up.

[anonymous-user]

No, they can't detain or arrest, but you need to balance taking advantage of that with the risk of ending up on court with a conviction. They could have mobile CCTV, be in touch with police CCTV (if in a town centre where many operate) etc.

[Vipers]

Terminator X said:

Whilst littering is bad enough what really gets my goat is the lazy s who can't return their trolley to the trolley bay about 10ft away

TX.

And same lazy s who don't return papers to the paper rack in our local Sainsburys resturant, despite a sign saying "Please return the papers".

Some leave them 10 ft away in the nearest table, lazy feckers.

[Vipers]

Terminator X said:

Whilst littering is bad enough what really gets my goat is the lazy s who can't return their trolley to the trolley bay about 10ft away

TX.

And same lazy s who don't return papers to the paper rack in our local Sainsburys resturant, despite a sign saying "Please return the papers".

Some leave them 10 ft away in the nearest table, lazy feckers.

[Ren Esis]

Spanna said:

After continuous demanding of our details for about 10 minutes, I'd had enough, strolled off and got the snow spray from the bin. 'What do you think you're doing?' is what the PCSO snorted as I got it out of the bin. 'Leaving' is what I replied. They didn't say anything more and didn't bother following.

And that's the way the cookie crumbled
(Spanna puts the toothpick back in his mouth, and throws his jacket over his shoulder)

Edited by Ren Esis on Thursday 24th July 13:04

[bodhi]

Perhaps if local councils wanted to stop people dropping cigarette butts everywhere, they may wish to provide some more ashtrays to put them out in? As a smoker this is a constant annoyance, yes dropping cig butts is wrong, but when the alternative is risk setting a bin on fire because you haven't put it out properly, and there is no drain anywhere to drop them into, what are you supposed to do?

To me it instantly puts around 20% of the population at risk of dropping litter, as there is no real alternative. All other forms of litter are disgusting, and I fully agree with fines for dropping crisp packets etc, but often dropping a cig butts isn't a choice, but a lack of options.

[corporalsparrow]

I had a go at a gormless tt of a 12 year old about an hour ago.

He was standing right next to a bin…not 18 sodding inches away…and dropped his litter on the ground…then pushed it to one side with his foot…away from the bin.

[Snowboy]

bodhi said:

Perhaps if local councils wanted to stop people dropping cigarette butts everywhere, they may wish to provide some more ashtrays to put them out in? As a smoker this is a constant annoyance, yes dropping cig butts is wrong, but when the alternative is risk setting a bin on fire because you haven't put it out properly, and there is no drain anywhere to drop them into, what are you supposed to do?

To me it instantly puts around 20% of the population at risk of dropping litter, as there is no real alternative. All other forms of litter are disgusting, and I fully agree with fines for dropping crisp packets etc, but often dropping a cig butts isn't a choice, but a lack of options.

Utter utter bks.
Childish excuses and lack if personal responsibility.
Pure laziness.
There are ALWAYS other options.

If you choose to smoke it's up to you to deal with your trash.
It's easy enough to make sure a cigarette but is out before putting it in a bin.
If there are no bins just carry an old altoids tin or film case, put the stubs in there until you get to a bin.
Most tobacanists will sell some sort of portable ashtray or bag to store ends.

Stop making excuses.
Deal with your trash and don't make it someone else's problem.

[bodhi]

Snowboy said:

Utter utter bks.
Childish excuses and lack if personal responsibility.
Pure laziness.
There are ALWAYS other options.

If you choose to smoke it's up to you to deal with your trash.
It's easy enough to make sure a cigarette but is out before putting it in a bin.
If there are no bins just carry an old altoids tin or film case, put the stubs in there until you get to a bin.
Most tobacanists will sell some sort of portable ashtray or bag to store ends.

Stop making excuses.
Deal with your trash and don't make it someone else's problem.

Right. So we should be stubbing butts out and putting them in the bin. I can't see that causing fires in any way shape or form.

We used to have a bit of a problem with dropped cig butts at work, as the ashtray was broken in the smoking section. They fixed it, the butt problem went away! Magic! It's almost as if you give people facilities, they'll use them! Who would have thought of that!

Whether you agree with it or not, some people still choose to smoke, whats wrong with giving them somewhere to put their detritus afterwards? Maybe they will be less inclined to put them on the floor if there is somewhere better to put them, but as it is, unless you're outside a pub, they are few and far between.

It's not a lack of personal responsibility, it's a lack of common sense on your part frankly. If there is nowhere to put out a cigarette, people will use the floor, as its safer than setting a bin on fire. Maybe we should try a carrot (more ashtrays), rather than the bloody stick, again (the £80 fine). Maybe they could pay for the ashtrays out all the tax they charge for a 20 pack?