£80 fine for litter dropping!
Discussion
If I see someone dropping litter, I may pick it up and give it to them, or at least ask politely them not to drop litter. I sometimes get a mouthful of sweariness, but I carry on. I add that I am neither powerfully built nor do I have a goatee. I am a director of no companies.
Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 3rd September 13:50
Aprisa said:
In Birmingham the Fixed Penalty is £80 but this is reduced to £50 if you pay within 14 days.
We get about 10 per week that fail to pay and then it is about £100 fine £85 Costs and £15 VS, seems a bit out of proportion compared to a "no insurance" fine.
Not really, the fine is 50 quid.We get about 10 per week that fail to pay and then it is about £100 fine £85 Costs and £15 VS, seems a bit out of proportion compared to a "no insurance" fine.
It's up to you if you want to pay more.
But even £200 is not enough IMHO, I hate litter droppers more than I'd hate a ginger step-child.
callmedave said:
3 of my friends have been done for dropping roll-ups (are they not bio-degradable?)
... also has anyone heard of someone getting away with it?
Callmedave
A few years back, Glasgow started a similar scheme. Within the first few weeks of it starting a friend dropped her fag-end down a drain. She received a fine.... also has anyone heard of someone getting away with it?
Callmedave
Her dad checked the wording of the offense and found that the wording was "...in a public place" The sewers are not "a public place" so she dodged the fine.
She was, however, somewhat mortified when her name appeared in the paper (on a name and shame page)as a littering offender.
Got back from a 100 mile drive last night with Mrs Gandahar and parked up in Mcdonalds for a neo expense spared slap up supper for two. She went in and I parked.
Other side of the car park two Ben Elton style young adults with caps on backwards in a C1 windows open.
Eat their meal
Drop the chip container out the window
Then the burger carton
Then the drinks cup
There's a bin about 10m away, but that's too far.
The sad thing is that this seems normal to them. In the future normal might be something more antisocial.
Very sad that it's not been ingrained at all that this is not acceptable.
Other side of the car park two Ben Elton style young adults with caps on backwards in a C1 windows open.
Eat their meal
Drop the chip container out the window
Then the burger carton
Then the drinks cup
There's a bin about 10m away, but that's too far.
The sad thing is that this seems normal to them. In the future normal might be something more antisocial.
Very sad that it's not been ingrained at all that this is not acceptable.
I'd view a fine on people for littering being perfectly sensible. Stop being a f
king peasant and dispose of your detritus correctly.
king peasant and dispose of your detritus correctly.TheLordJohn said:
How about horse ste all over the roads?
There is actually a logic to this, due to potential parasites that are quite happy to find a human to shack up in instead. Horse crap doesn't have these.te all over the roads? I can just about contain my rage in a McDonlads car park as htey have signs saying they are happy to pick your rubbish up but yesterday I pulled in to a local beauty spot with benches next to a fishing lake and someone had just dumped their McDonalds on the floor despite a bin being about 5 metres away.
Earlier that day I had also seen a full array of KFC rubbish strewn in the middle of a main road in Saddleworth...window open and gone.
On top of that I saw a taxi driver open his window whilst pulled up at lights in city centre Manchester and just dump a load of paperwork onto the road. Even worse, there was a police transit van two vehicles behind and I was ready for the satisfaction of him being collared but the driver looked away seconds before he did it!
Earlier that day I had also seen a full array of KFC rubbish strewn in the middle of a main road in Saddleworth...window open and gone.
On top of that I saw a taxi driver open his window whilst pulled up at lights in city centre Manchester and just dump a load of paperwork onto the road. Even worse, there was a police transit van two vehicles behind and I was ready for the satisfaction of him being collared but the driver looked away seconds before he did it!
Stoofa said:
Well to be fair your average cat does tend to bury what it leaves behind.
sorry, but as has already been established by many people with experience of "neighbours cats st in my garden syndrome" that this very often isnt the case and is more often than not one of several excuses rolled out by cat owners..along with .. "its more likely foxes", even when eye witness testimony proves otherwise...
Mrs SB is a teacher.
Many years back she told off a kid of 10-11 years old for dropping litter.
The kid was baffled; he had no idea it was wrong.
Nobody had ever told him not to.
As for other litter;
There's a litter lorry that drives near me, I think it's recycling or something, but it has an open top with a badly fitting net.
As it drives there's a steady stream of litter blowing out the top.
I wonder how many people neatly dispose if their rubbish only to have incompetent collection agencies drop it on the street.
Many years back she told off a kid of 10-11 years old for dropping litter.
The kid was baffled; he had no idea it was wrong.
Nobody had ever told him not to.
As for other litter;
There's a litter lorry that drives near me, I think it's recycling or something, but it has an open top with a badly fitting net.
As it drives there's a steady stream of litter blowing out the top.
I wonder how many people neatly dispose if their rubbish only to have incompetent collection agencies drop it on the street.
Breadvan72 said:
Chavs? Think again: the litter included Waitrose bags and Pret a Manger sandwich wrappers, as well as the predictable cider cans and used blobbies.
Note that this is not an urban streetscape, although the woods are surrounded by urban space. How can people be so blind to their surroundings?
NB: I do not buy into "things were better in the old days" arguments, as usually they weren't, but still, WTF?
hedgefinder said:
no, it certainly isnt, but also why should cat owners get away with it?
Well, dogs are fully domesticated animals and need to be controlled at all times.Cats are considered wild or semi-domestic or something like that.
Yes, cat poo is yucky but if the cats were removed then other small predators would just take their places; you'd end up with foxes, stoats, rats etc.
Frankly I'd rather have a few spayed and innoculated cats poking around the place than open the doors for disease ridden wildlife encroaching further into urban areas.
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