Discussion
andygo said:
In my original post I indicated that the Police were searching several areas specified by the suspect. Now if he was innocent, why would he be suggesting areas to search?
Because he knows the area and is as concerned for her wellbeing as everyone else maybe? I know if I was in that situation I'd be suggesting anything I could think of to help find the girl.Honestly, this sort of "why would they..." thinking is EXACTLY why criminal proof has to be "beyond reasonable doubt" and why lynch mobs and vigilantes are such really really REALLY bad ideas!
andygo said:
I haven't suggested torture at all. As a matter of interest, someone mentioned that it takes a skilled person to administer the drugs and get benefit from them. As a matter of interest, where do they gain that experience?
In military tactical questioning/interrogation units like JWIT to start, but actually done by 'contractors' when it goes outside convention generally.mat777 said:
I gather from some news reports that this girl was playing on the street unsupervised.
In the dark, not all that close to the house,with cerebral palsy.
But none of that has anything at all to do with her disappearing (as it didn't with the McCanns) because, if it did, an awful lot of people would have to start re-thinking what being a "parent" means
Breadvan72 said:
Heroic SOE agents resisted the Gestapo for days. Torture is unreliable, as well as uncivilised.
Well yes true they did, Violette Szabo being probably one of the most famous examples, as featured in the classic film "Carve her name with pride".Of course none of us know what is going on behind the scenes, the truth will no doubt come out sooner rather than later.
Let's hope it's not too late for poor April....
They've announced that they have been given 'more time' for questioning and have until 5pm on Friday to hold him.
Is this necessary?
Question: "Do you know where she is?"
Answer: "No."
Question: "Do you know where she is?"
Answer: "No."
Question: "Do you know where she is?"
Answer: "No."
Question: "Do you know where she is?"
Answer: "No."
Question: "Do you know where she is?"
Answer: "No."
s
t! we need more time for this!
Why not let him go and have him followed? Not by the Police, they have no professional capability that would let this be covert, but by a professional organisation? Is that not more likely that the repetitive questioning?
Is this necessary?
Question: "Do you know where she is?"
Answer: "No."
Question: "Do you know where she is?"
Answer: "No."
Question: "Do you know where she is?"
Answer: "No."
Question: "Do you know where she is?"
Answer: "No."
Question: "Do you know where she is?"
Answer: "No."
s
t! we need more time for this!Why not let him go and have him followed? Not by the Police, they have no professional capability that would let this be covert, but by a professional organisation? Is that not more likely that the repetitive questioning?
SV8Predator said:
Why not let him go and have him followed? Not by the Police, they have no professional capability that would let this be covert, but by a professional organisation? Is that not more likely that the repetitive questioning?
How could he safely be released in any case? He'd be lynched before the door shut behind him.Why would the police name him and release his details unless they know he's implicated
With so many houses having CCTV these days, it's not hard to imagine that the police went house to house, found someone with a decent camera and observed him driving onto the estate, maybe even abducting her?
Now it's just a case of finding out what has happened to the girl. Hopefully unharmed.
With so many houses having CCTV these days, it's not hard to imagine that the police went house to house, found someone with a decent camera and observed him driving onto the estate, maybe even abducting her?
Now it's just a case of finding out what has happened to the girl. Hopefully unharmed.
FFS! I give up. The poster above is presumably eligible for jury service. We are screwed.
Police always [EDIT: not always, but sometimes] name suspects. It would be better, given the ignorance and prejudice of the mob (a representative of which appears above) if they did not, but they do. This guy is a suspect, until he is convicted by a court. Which part of that do you struggle to understand? If he is guilty, I hope a court finds him so, but until one does, he is presumed innocent.
Police always [EDIT: not always, but sometimes] name suspects. It would be better, given the ignorance and prejudice of the mob (a representative of which appears above) if they did not, but they do. This guy is a suspect, until he is convicted by a court. Which part of that do you struggle to understand? If he is guilty, I hope a court finds him so, but until one does, he is presumed innocent.
Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 4th October 22:46
littlebasher said:
Why would the police name him and release his details unless they know he's implicated
With so many houses having CCTV these days, it's not hard to imagine that the police went house to house, found someone with a decent camera and observed him driving onto the estate, maybe even abducting her?
Now it's just a case of finding out what has happened to the girl. Hopefully unharmed.
You've never been to Machynlleth have you??With so many houses having CCTV these days, it's not hard to imagine that the police went house to house, found someone with a decent camera and observed him driving onto the estate, maybe even abducting her?
Now it's just a case of finding out what has happened to the girl. Hopefully unharmed.
Variomatic said:
mat777 said:
I gather from some news reports that this girl was playing on the street unsupervised.
In the dark, not all that close to the house,with cerebral palsy.
But none of that has anything at all to do with her disappearing (as it didn't with the McCanns) because, if it did, an awful lot of people would have to start re-thinking what being a "parent" means
littlebasher said:
Why would the police name him and release his details unless they know he's implicated
With so many houses having CCTV these days, it's not hard to imagine that the police went house to house, found someone with a decent camera and observed him driving onto the estate, maybe even abducting her?
Now it's just a case of finding out what has happened to the girl. Hopefully unharmed.
So many houses having CCTV? Does ANYONE here have CCTV on their house? Let's assume 400 people read this - I now await 200 responses. At least. With so many houses having CCTV these days, it's not hard to imagine that the police went house to house, found someone with a decent camera and observed him driving onto the estate, maybe even abducting her?
Now it's just a case of finding out what has happened to the girl. Hopefully unharmed.
daz3210 said:
But, if a substance is available that is reliable and has no long term effects would it be a problem? If he is perfectly innocent his liberties are already infringed.
And what is this magical substance? Truth drugs are by their very nature quite hardcore - they cross the blood/brain barrier. I would rather not take one.Breadvan72 said:
littlebasher said:
Breadvan72 said:
FFS! I give up. The poster above is presumably eligible for jury service. We are screwed..
Reading back my post, that's harsh but fair......RtdRacer said:
So many houses having CCTV? Does ANYONE here have CCTV on their house? Let's assume 400 people read this - I now await 200 responses. At least.
You've never been to Sheffield!I will concede the point that a small town in an isolated part of Wales, may not have them in such numbers
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