Abusive phone call
Discussion
DoubleSix said:
Great, so now some bloke is gonna get a record because you gave a 12 year old a mobile. 
Who knows what's going on in this chaps life to provoke such an outburst, maybe he stayed up all night nursing a sick partner, maybe he just lost a relative, maybe he is just an asshole. But seriously, get some perspective and move on...
+1 . I have to say the most sensible thing I have heard on PH.Who knows what's going on in this chaps life to provoke such an outburst, maybe he stayed up all night nursing a sick partner, maybe he just lost a relative, maybe he is just an asshole. But seriously, get some perspective and move on...
P.S If you are well enough to call your mate at 6.45 am your are well enough to go to school.
ruff'n'smov said:
DoubleSix said:
Great, so now some bloke is gonna get a record because you gave a 12 year old a mobile.
Who knows what's going on in this chaps life to provoke such an outburst, maybe he stayed up all night nursing a sick partner, maybe he just lost a relative, maybe he is just an asshole. But seriously, get some perspective and move on...
+1 . I have to say the most sensible thing I have heard on PH.Who knows what's going on in this chaps life to provoke such an outburst, maybe he stayed up all night nursing a sick partner, maybe he just lost a relative, maybe he is just an asshole. But seriously, get some perspective and move on...
P.S If you are well enough to call your mate at 6.45 am your are well enough to go to school.
You can be pretty sick and still make a phonecall. She called her mate to tell her that she would not be walking with her to the bus stop. I told her to, it's called being considerate, unlike the prick on the phone.
croyde said:
ruff'n'smov said:
DoubleSix said:
Great, so now some bloke is gonna get a record because you gave a 12 year old a mobile.
Who knows what's going on in this chaps life to provoke such an outburst, maybe he stayed up all night nursing a sick partner, maybe he just lost a relative, maybe he is just an asshole. But seriously, get some perspective and move on...
+1 . I have to say the most sensible thing I have heard on PH.Who knows what's going on in this chaps life to provoke such an outburst, maybe he stayed up all night nursing a sick partner, maybe he just lost a relative, maybe he is just an asshole. But seriously, get some perspective and move on...
P.S If you are well enough to call your mate at 6.45 am your are well enough to go to school.
You can be pretty sick and still make a phonecall. She called her mate to tell her that she would not be walking with her to the bus stop. I told her to, it's called being considerate, unlike the prick on the phone.
BTW my grammar is crap isn't it. thanks for not pointing it out.
7db said:
My OGM says don't leave a message. But they go right ahead and do it anyway.
Mine used to be the chorus from "So whatcha want" by the Beastie Boys, it used to cause all sorts of confusion. My Mum has only just got used to the fact that she needn't leave a message on my mobile and then call the landline and leave a message on that as well. Phone technology has a lot to answer for but, to drag myself back on topic, it has always been possible to be a big tough fella when nobody can see you (as every fifth or sixth post on here proves). The OP should rest assured that if matey genuinely wanted to do harm, he'd have been a bit more clever and asked a few leading questions. Since he just ranted, I'd imagine it's all he's inclined to do and capable of doing. Sadly, if this is the case, next time he's had a few and is feeling brave he may well call again.
Cheers, Jim
DoubleSix said:
streaky said:
DoubleSix said:
[I] have an adorable niece whom I spend a good deal of time with.
Its probably a good thing that this remark wasn't made in the Jimmy Saville thread. 
Streaky
PS - full marks for using the object pronoun, but none for ending the sentence with a preposition - S
You understood and took in jest the doughnut jibe !
croyde said:
she just put the phone down when a guy answered.
That, right there, is something that you as a parent need to correct. It's incredibly rude to just put the phone down when you realise you've got a wrong number, and your daughter needs to be told that the correct thing to do is say "sorry to disturb you, I think I've got a wrong number" and then put the phone down. None of this would have happened if she'd done that.croyde said:
Aggressive Moi 
Well a constable came round and listened to the message and said that he would like to do something about it as the guy sounded 'a bit of a sort'. In fact you could hear young kids in the background whilst he was telling my daughter what he was going to effing do to her. Nice!
I asked that it was reported but unfortunately it was either a case of leaving it be or arresting the fella, but get this, the young PC warned me that if he were to be arrested he could complain that my daughter was harassing him, even though she said nothing, and she would be arrested until it was all sorted out.
Obviously I went with the 'lets draw a line under this' option.
As I said earlier I only called the 101 number for advice.
I am sensing some BS in this story. Are we to believe that the owner of the mobile number, OP's daughter called happens to live in the same county as her? Well a constable came round and listened to the message and said that he would like to do something about it as the guy sounded 'a bit of a sort'. In fact you could hear young kids in the background whilst he was telling my daughter what he was going to effing do to her. Nice!
I asked that it was reported but unfortunately it was either a case of leaving it be or arresting the fella, but get this, the young PC warned me that if he were to be arrested he could complain that my daughter was harassing him, even though she said nothing, and she would be arrested until it was all sorted out.
Obviously I went with the 'lets draw a line under this' option.
As I said earlier I only called the 101 number for advice.
How was the man at the other end of the phone to now that the moron that called him in the wee hours of the morning is a 12 year old? When you dial a wrong number, courtesy demands you explain this to the receiver, say sorry and hang up.
croyde said:
Read the rest of the thread, no BS, the answers are all there.
Plus the silly sod was easily traceable. I have his address and the company that he works for. He was moronic enough to post his mobile number on a forum for all to see.
STALKER ALERT !!!Plus the silly sod was easily traceable. I have his address and the company that he works for. He was moronic enough to post his mobile number on a forum for all to see.
Edited by croyde on Sunday 7th October 09:54
All the poor bloke did was react to some foolish girl (he could have thought it was a woman unless her giggling included "I'm 12" and don't know how to use a mobile phone appropriatly) but YOU now have his number, his home address and the company that he works for !! ???
WTH You sir appear to be unstable.
Calm down 13th, just pointing out what a moron the bloke who told my daughter that he was going to 'FEK UP' is. I'm not about to do anything, I just idly put his number into Google. Sheesh!
He may be a raving Paedo for all I know as it's a very strange way to react, well to me it is as I tend to be polite even when the chips are down. It's got me out of more trouble than using my fists or abusive language.
He may be a raving Paedo for all I know as it's a very strange way to react, well to me it is as I tend to be polite even when the chips are down. It's got me out of more trouble than using my fists or abusive language.
croyde said:
I tend to be polite even when the chips are down. It's got me out of more trouble than using my fists or abusive language.
I agree with you on that point. Look at it from this chaps point of view if you were in bed with your Mrs and some female phoned you twice wouldn't you be facing some awkward questions?
I've tried to read the whole thread. I can't see the bit where the abusive guy knew he was talking to a 12 year old. From what I've read, he was getting silent calls (which are well known to be accepted as harrassment) and then picked up some voicemail message about ponies. I had no idea 'all the kids' have these messages on their voicemail. My 12 year old niece and 14 year old nephew don't. I imagine if I had been called a few times at inopportune moments (0645 would most definitely be one of them and I can think of plenty more) and then got through to a 'bloody annoying' voicemail, then I might yell a few choice words down the phone. My objective would be to stop them happening again which I'm sure was the point of the threats in this case.
So I can see why someone not in the best of moods would lose it and at the same time I would not condone threatening someone if you knew they were a child. However, the threats would need to be a lot more specific and repeated before I'd involve the Police. Even then, I think I'd just tell this guy that mistakes were made, my daughter was sorry and that's the end of it thank you very much. Then, if the threats or retaliatory calls were made, I would consider calling the Police.
OP - what advice have you given your daughter following this little drama?
So I can see why someone not in the best of moods would lose it and at the same time I would not condone threatening someone if you knew they were a child. However, the threats would need to be a lot more specific and repeated before I'd involve the Police. Even then, I think I'd just tell this guy that mistakes were made, my daughter was sorry and that's the end of it thank you very much. Then, if the threats or retaliatory calls were made, I would consider calling the Police.
OP - what advice have you given your daughter following this little drama?
I'm reading this thread, and I'm amazed that so many grown men can condone a 'gentleman' who feels it appropriate to threaten a 12yo girl with violence. Let's be honest "I'm gonna f
k you up" can't really be taken any other way. Maybe you don't agree with the OPs response, but it's his right and duty as a father to do what is necessary to protect his daughter.
All this crap about "maybe he's had a really tough day" is bks. I work nights and I'm constantly getting woken up during the day by the kids next door, the phone, the postman, the dog, the missus. I've never once stated that I will cause violence to anyone. Whenever I've had relatives die I've not responded with threats at little girls. When I've got back from Afg or Iraq I've never felt the urge to threaten children.
I don't know what sort of world you live in, where this behaviour is acceptable, but in a civilised society it isn't!!
Oh, and for all you old farts moaning about kids having mobile phones, you really need to accept that it's part of society nowadays, and that kids do now have phones.
k you up" can't really be taken any other way. Maybe you don't agree with the OPs response, but it's his right and duty as a father to do what is necessary to protect his daughter.All this crap about "maybe he's had a really tough day" is b
ks. I work nights and I'm constantly getting woken up during the day by the kids next door, the phone, the postman, the dog, the missus. I've never once stated that I will cause violence to anyone. Whenever I've had relatives die I've not responded with threats at little girls. When I've got back from Afg or Iraq I've never felt the urge to threaten children. I don't know what sort of world you live in, where this behaviour is acceptable, but in a civilised society it isn't!!
Oh, and for all you old farts
moaning about kids having mobile phones, you really need to accept that it's part of society nowadays, and that kids do now have phones. Thanks Jim, it has worried me that people think this fella's reaction is fine. An annoyed response maybe but not what he said. It seems to be the general attitude in this country to ignore bad manners, abusive behaviour, graffiti what have you and wonder why things have got so bad.
Many on this forum complain about bad behaviour and ill manners when out and about.
My daughter has been spoken to and many of you seem to have forgotten that I myself did speak to the man involved who did turn out to be a very nasty, foul mouthed individual. I started politely, willing to hear his story but all I got was abuse. 9mm please note.
You all appear to hate chavs, well this was one in full flow.
Many on this forum complain about bad behaviour and ill manners when out and about.
My daughter has been spoken to and many of you seem to have forgotten that I myself did speak to the man involved who did turn out to be a very nasty, foul mouthed individual. I started politely, willing to hear his story but all I got was abuse. 9mm please note.
You all appear to hate chavs, well this was one in full flow.
Edited by croyde on Sunday 7th October 10:31
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