Stab a dog, criminal damage?

Stab a dog, criminal damage?

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bigandclever

13,789 posts

238 months

Friday 19th October 2012
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James Cameron said:
I saw the Mingwei Tan crime scene.
The crime scene that, er, wasn't, what with the driver being found not guilty of any crime and it being an accident? Seriously, have you been hit in the head or something?

mcdjl

5,446 posts

195 months

Friday 19th October 2012
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James Cameron said:
mcdjl said:
So your dog has been in lots of fights, does that means that this bloke should have been happy about his dog being in a fight? I don't believe any of my friends dogs have been in fights that have left marks like that.
Quite what Mingwei (a student run over by a bus) has to do with a dog fight is totally lost on me.
Left bite marks like what?
Like these:
James Cameron said:
perhaps you should have read some more posts.
Not only do dogs fight, when they do fight there are often cuts and bite marks. This had been going on for some time before my dog (who was small) launched at the boxer's face. The boxer's mouth was dripping with blood.

On another occasion I was in a park with a friend and the big 2 of his 3 dogs. My dog had bite marks from the dog who had joined in.
Yes I'm sure they are. That doesn't change the fact that none of my friends dogs have been in such fights. Your link would seem to suggest that even if the dog had been the vets might not be necessary. Who are the online police support group? Can you tell me how i can find out if they've spoken to a vet?
James Cameron said:
'In the course of their lives, dogs are likely to get injured now and then. Your pet may run into a tree branch or rub against a sharp object. Your dog may even get in an occasional fight and wind up with a wound that requires attention.'

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-treat...

I'm surprised Mr Stearman's online police support group haven't complained that the media apparently have not contacted the vet to corroborated his account. If he was telling the truth..

'A DOG needed six stitches after an out of control Staffordshire bull terrier ‘locked on’ to its neck, a court heart.'

http://www.nwemail.co.uk/news/whippet-needed-stitc...

Here's some useful information:

http://leerburg.com/dogfight.htm
As distressing as that might be Mingwei Tan was a person as far as I know. I'm not sure of the relevance?
James Cameron said:
I saw the Mingwei Tan crime scene.
Good point
Boshly said:
You guys really trying to have a sensible debate with this guy?

(yes I know some is selective quoting but it’s all up there!!)

James Cameron

32 posts

138 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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'The infamous “locking jaw” myth has been assigned to a variety of dog breeds, including the American Staffordshire Terrier, Bulldog and Boxer, but it’s exactly that — a myth.'

http://blog.sfgate.com/pets/2010/09/10/pet-myths-d...

James Cameron

32 posts

138 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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bigandclever said:
James Cameron said:
I saw the Mingwei Tan crime scene.
The crime scene that, er, wasn't, what with the driver being found not guilty of any crime and it being an accident? Seriously, have you been hit in the head or something?
Theres someone intelligent enough to question.

I was on the Northbound N5 bus which was not mentioned in the press. We all had to alight there. I did not want to look at Mingwei and did not examine the area directly around her. Others did. There was over 100m between Mingwei and the large pristine pool of unsmeared blood in the road outside Belsize Park tube station. There was not a drop of blood on the road between the pool of blood and the area near Mingwei.

Beside the pool of blood was a battered open hand bag. There was no mobile phone and no clump of hair, just the pool of blood and the bag. I specifically looked for anything, there were no drips of blood around the pool of blood.

To the left of the road (if you are walking up) in the area between Mingwei and the pool of blood was a clean silver metal spring coil.

To the north of the pool of blood was also no drops of blood. There was no blood at the bus stop. I turned left at the garage.

James Cameron

32 posts

138 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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Theres a major hospital with ambulances round the corner and she was dealt with by Police Paramedics.

Jessicus

374 posts

146 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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Having read all of the thread, the only thing that I can add is:

James, get help. You're fantasizing about knowing about crime scenes to (possibly) impress people on the Internet and expressing paranoid beliefs about the police.

If it's not a troll, then you need to see someone.

James Cameron

32 posts

138 months

Sunday 21st October 2012
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Jessicus said:
Having read all of the thread, the only thing that I can add is:

James, get help. You're fantasizing about knowing about crime scenes to (possibly) impress people on the Internet and expressing paranoid beliefs about the police.

If it's not a troll, then you need to see someone.
Its the 'caring way'.

Yep, thats me getting on that N5 at Euston.

"During the course of the trial some key aspects of the prosecution evidence, particularly with regards to expert evidence, were undermined."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-185223...

Is it a polite way of saying fabrication?

I did contact the bus driver's solicitor. I reckon what I wrote in a brief intended preliminary Witness Statement was not in line with the already planned defence. Either that or they were already inundated with witnesses.

James Cameron

32 posts

138 months

Sunday 21st October 2012
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I'd reckon a 10% probability of the Mingwei Tan case being a factor in releasing Mr Stearman. I absolutely did not mean that Mr Stearman was involved with the death of Mingwei.

'Witness James Gautrey said he heard a “mixture of a bang, a crunch and a thud” and saw a bus grind to a halt outside Marks & Spencer in South End Green.

He admitted he could not be certain it was the bus driven by Firouzian.

Police found a white trainer at the spot'

http://www.london24.com/news/court/driver_who_drag...


There is a James Gautrey who is a Global Equity Analyst at Schroders.


'Schroders manages £194.6 billion (EUR 240.4 billion/$305.1 billion)* on behalf of institutional and retail investors, financial institutions and high net worth clients from around the world.'

http://www.schroders.com/global/home


She was not dragged down Haverstock Hill.

The many cops at the scene were white males.

I'd thought her being accidently run down by the police outside Belsize Park Tube station was the likely explanation.

Monkey boy 1

2,063 posts

231 months

Sunday 21st October 2012
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I read the OP but not all the other replies, the one thing that gets me is that the dog owner was calling for the offence to be classed as murder.
The killing of a pet will never be classed as murder because every vet who puts an animal down is wilfully killing an animal and could be charged with murder if this were to be changed.
It's a very sad story but the attacker should be charged with carrying a blade and why were the dogs fighting in the first place ?

RUSSELLM

6,000 posts

247 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Monkey boy 1 said:
I read the OP but not all the other replies, the one thing that gets me is that the dog owner was calling for the offence to be classed as murder.


It's a very sad story but the attacker should be charged with carrying a blade and why were the dogs fighting in the first place ?
Have a look in 'Other replies'

James Cameron

32 posts

138 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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With regard to Mingwei, lets examine the spy hit theory.

1. The many cops were all male and white. (Hand picked).

2. The witness fits.

3. The psychology is difficult with the 'accidently run down by the police outside Belsize Park station' theory.

4. The Conservatives were newly in power and may have wanted to announce their arrival.



To help you with the logistics, the Northbound N5 arrived at the scene before the police.

Some of you may think its really evil if someone like Saddam does things like that, wheras its ok for the British government.

I believe there was an attempted hit on me.


RB Will

9,664 posts

240 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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laugh

I think if the government wanted you dead they could do it without many problems.

Fancy talking about the dog story instead of some other crackpot ideas? What is your theory on the dog incident?

OzzyR1

5,722 posts

232 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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James Cameron said:
With regard to Mingwei, lets examine the spy hit theory.

1. The many cops were all male and white. (Hand picked).

2. The witness fits.

3. The psychology is difficult with the 'accidently run down by the police outside Belsize Park station' theory.

4. The Conservatives were newly in power and may have wanted to announce their arrival.



To help you with the logistics, the Northbound N5 arrived at the scene before the police.

Some of you may think its really evil if someone like Saddam does things like that, wheras its ok for the British government.

I believe there was an attempted hit on me.
You may be better off here:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/




Jessicus

374 posts

146 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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OzzyR1 said:
You may be better off here:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/
I think even they would struggle with the nature of James' delusions. I really hope that he is seeing a professional about his issues.

Boshly

2,776 posts

236 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Jessicus said:
I think even they would struggle with the nature of James' delusions. I really hope that he is seeing a professional about his issues.
+1 hehe

Digger

14,678 posts

191 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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James Cameron said:
With regard to Mingwei, . . .
Errr. . . can you please concentrate on your day job Sir!?

No wonder this country is going to the dogs.

James Cameron

32 posts

138 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Digger said:
James Cameron said:
With regard to Mingwei, . . .
Errr. . . can you please concentrate on your day job Sir!?

No wonder this country is going to the dogs.
What with all the quislings.

rumple

11,671 posts

151 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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James Cameron said:
With regard to Mingwei, lets examine the spy hit theory.

1. The many cops were all male and white. (Hand picked).

Some of you may think its really evil if someone like Saddam does things like that, wheras its ok for the British government.

I believe there was an attempted hit on me.
My friend I think you need to calm down on the Skunk...........confusednono

Edited by rumple on Monday 22 October 22:47

Who me ?

7,455 posts

212 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2012
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Digger said:
Errr. . . can you please concentrate on your day job Sir!?

No wonder this country is going to the dogs.
NOW- Pardon me, but,WE'VE gone ful circle .

James Cameron

32 posts

138 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2012
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RB Will said:
laugh

I think if the government wanted you dead they could do it without many problems.

Fancy talking about the dog story instead of some other crackpot ideas? What is your theory on the dog incident?
I've already said.

As for your theory that the government are competent..

13 Aug, 4.30PM, Hyde Park Corner eastbound platform.

I reckon the burly 'young Boris' had a damaged rib cage.