Fraud as a career path

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DSLiverpool

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14,672 posts

201 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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I can't find the article but some bint siphoned off £800k from the company she worked for and got 3 years, on the basis she didn't give it back she got over £250k a year tax free.

On a more lucrative level http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2171031/Bu...

Say they have to serve 11 years its £3m a year tax free.

Ths is surely a lucrative and recession proof career, it should be taught in schools.


Mojooo

12,668 posts

179 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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anyone who has worked in the criminal justice system knows crime pays

thats why the proceeds of crime act is so good.

i know of a case recently where someone got fined £500 (5 offences) for selling fake goods but got a £70,000 proceeds of crime order against them! i bet they would rather do a couple of months inside than give up 70k.


hedgefinder

3,418 posts

169 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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never been able to understand this..
A girl local was caught writing cheques to herself from her employers account, only after having done it for well over a year. She got a suspended sentence with community service and didnt have to pay back the 250k she stole as far as anyone is aware.... WTF??
If you dont pay your utility or tax bill you end up in court and forced to pay, so why didnt she get some kind of payment order??

Spiritual_Beggar

4,833 posts

193 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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Oh...and there i was expecting a thread about becoming a Politician.

jas xjr

11,309 posts

238 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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i would not want to go to jail for any amount of money . i do know people who see it as an occupational hazard but it is not for me .

aw51 121565

4,771 posts

232 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
This ^^^^



Not my bag baby...

With that color ( wink ) T-shirt, he's got nothing to live for in Florida...

Rollcage

11,327 posts

191 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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DSLiverpool said:
I can't find the article but some bint siphoned off £800k from the company she worked for and got 3 years, on the basis she didn't give it back she got over £250k a year tax free.

On a more lucrative level http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2171031/Bu...

Say they have to serve 11 years its £3m a year tax free.

Ths is surely a lucrative and recession proof career, it should be taught in schools.

A compensation order won't be voided by a prison sentence - it still has to be fulfilled.

joema

2,644 posts

178 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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Yep, it's not go to prison and keep your winnings.

As much money will be recovered as possible. They can be sure they'll never get in a job like that again though. 3 years in prison and no future.

Don't get caught in the first place.

tyrewrecker

6,419 posts

153 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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joema said:
Yep, it's not go to prison and keep your winnings.

As much money will be recovered as possible. They can be sure they'll never get in a job like that again though. 3 years in prison and no future.

Don't get caught in the first place.
No, don't commit fraud!

AJS-

15,366 posts

235 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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Obviously the answer is not to commit fraud in the first place, and they thoroughly deserve the punishment they get. But it would be nice to pull off a really big one and get away with it

Can't paste the link from my phone, but there's a story on there about an American guy who bagged $40m and (apparently) faked his own death and went to Venezuela. Pretty cool.

tyrewrecker

6,419 posts

153 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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AJS- said:
Obviously the answer is not to commit fraud in the first place, and they thoroughly deserve the punishment they get. But it would be nice to pull off a really big one and get away with it

Can't paste the link from my phone, but there's a story on there about an American guy who bagged $40m and (apparently) faked his own death and went to Venezuela. Pretty cool.
Where is story?
We don't hear about the clever ones who do not get caught...just the greedy ones

AJS-

15,366 posts

235 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2171100/Au...

Here we go, I figured it out.

Not sure about clever, he had to fake his own death. But if he did make it to Chavezstan with $40m he'll be pretty well set up.

DSLiverpool

Original Poster:

14,672 posts

201 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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I wasn't being serious chaps, just throwing it out there for a little feedback on the subject.
Were all law abiding (powerfully built) pillars of the community here I know. smile

tyrewrecker

6,419 posts

153 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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DSLiverpool said:
I wasn't being serious chaps, just throwing it out there for a little feedback on the subject.
Were all law abiding (powerfully built) pillars of the community here I know. smile
Interesting link all. The same

Vieste

10,532 posts

159 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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aw51 121565 said:
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
This ^^^^



Not my bag baby...

With that color ( wink ) T-shirt, he's got nothing to live for in Florida...
Is that the one Rach keeps sending letters to?

wink

sugerbear

3,961 posts

157 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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AJS- said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2171100/Au...

Here we go, I figured it out.

Not sure about clever, he had to fake his own death. But if he did make it to Chavezstan with $40m he'll be pretty well set up.
Think of the practicalities. You need to have a way of accessing that 40m and laundering it somehow. You will have to engage the services of someone dodgy. You are totally in their hands once they have the money, they can kill you and keep the money, dump your body in a ditch and no one will ever hear from you again.

Once you have the money you will be in constant fear of someone finding you and again either exposing you or taking all the money and killing you.


the_lone_wolf

2,622 posts

185 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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DSLiverpool said:
Fraud as a career path
I think they prefer to call themselves "bankers"

coffee

gradderszx10r

374 posts

143 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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I was once questioned in relation to this, I pleaded guilty, got community service and kept the 22k.

nothing to show for it now tho, except a bad memory.

madala

5,063 posts

197 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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Fraud as a career path

....fk...another banking thread.....

Crazy Torque

2,632 posts

204 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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Rollcage said:

A compensation order won't be voided by a prison sentence - it still has to be fulfilled.
What if you declared yourself bankrupt (presumably you'd have no titled assets like car/house, just the embezzeled £500k in a shoebox or two hidden in the loft of your insane grandmothers.

Could you then start your new life without worrying about the past and all this compensation order bullst?

('Course you'd still need to launder the cash as needed, but that's a problem for another day.)