BMW X5 Police Car
Discussion
zetec said:
simoid said:
mrmr96 said:
T5R+ said:
Do not forget that they pay half or so price.
Yes, but a half price Skoda is still cheaper than a half price BMW, isn't it?Who said the Skodas are half list price?
LongLiveTazio said:
Crossflow Kid said:
Is that really part of the type approval test?
X5s are used as motorway cars so yes safety is a consideration. The vRS is quick but it is more fatiguing at high speed, the seats are worse, the driving position less advantageous, it can't tow large vehicles, it's not as good in winter, etc. I've regularly managed to drive the lenght of the country and back in a day in cars a lot less comfortable than a Disco or a 530. Difference is that, as a company car, my employer cosiders the cost of the fleet and I have to consider the BiK costs.
I figure a viable replacement for the X5/Disco would be the Transit or similar. It does a fine job for the AA/RAC/ numerous delivery firms and thier drivers cope ok with many hours driving / towing and so on.
pointedstarman said:
LongLiveTazio said:
Crossflow Kid said:
Is that really part of the type approval test?
X5s are used as motorway cars so yes safety is a consideration. The vRS is quick but it is more fatiguing at high speed, the seats are worse, the driving position less advantageous, it can't tow large vehicles, it's not as good in winter, etc. I've regularly managed to drive the lenght of the country and back in a day in cars a lot less comfortable than a Disco or a 530. Difference is that, as a company car, my employer cosiders the cost of the fleet and I have to consider the BiK costs.
I figure a viable replacement for the X5/Disco would be the Transit or similar. It does a fine job for the AA/RAC/ numerous delivery firms and thier drivers cope ok with many hours driving / towing and so on.
The AA/RAC & numerous delivery firms tend to only have one person in those vehicles for most of the time.
pointedstarman said:
Would suggest you buy a Roller or Bentley then...
I've regularly managed to drive the lenght of the country and back in a day in cars a lot less comfortable than a Disco or a 530. Difference is that, as a company car, my employer cosiders the cost of the fleet and I have to consider the BiK costs.
I figure a viable replacement for the X5/Disco would be the Transit or similar. It does a fine job for the AA/RAC/ numerous delivery firms and thier drivers cope ok with many hours driving / towing and so on.
Towing is only one very small part of the possible things these vehicles need to do, and as thier primary role is a response/traffic vehicle a transit is too slow. Also: Lower speed limits, only two wheel drive (barring a few expensive exceptions).I've regularly managed to drive the lenght of the country and back in a day in cars a lot less comfortable than a Disco or a 530. Difference is that, as a company car, my employer cosiders the cost of the fleet and I have to consider the BiK costs.
I figure a viable replacement for the X5/Disco would be the Transit or similar. It does a fine job for the AA/RAC/ numerous delivery firms and thier drivers cope ok with many hours driving / towing and so on.
Give it up man, there vehicles are chosen for good reason, and the badge isn't one, its just happens that the right choice is a German barge.
Elroy Blue said:
Transit for m/way patrol????
You are REALLY, REALLY, REALLY embarrassing yourself now.
No, actually I'm not.You are REALLY, REALLY, REALLY embarrassing yourself now.
The higher power vans carry plenty, have similar performance (when loaded) and have lower through life costs.
Believe me, if the Disco / X5 were cheaper to run over 150 - 200k miles then every breakdown company would use them.
I figure it's an image thing for the force rather than a practical issue.
pointedstarman said:
No, actually I'm not.
The higher power vans carry plenty, have similar performance (when loaded) and have lower through life costs.
Believe me, if the Disco / X5 were cheaper to run over 150 - 200k miles then every breakdown company would use them.
I figure it's an image thing for the force rather than a practical issue.
You are either a massive troll or really ignorant and very stupid. The higher power vans carry plenty, have similar performance (when loaded) and have lower through life costs.
Believe me, if the Disco / X5 were cheaper to run over 150 - 200k miles then every breakdown company would use them.
I figure it's an image thing for the force rather than a practical issue.
Furry Exocet said:
That's the main reason why we were only allowed one, too many people commenting about the price of Jags (despite the fact it cost peanuts)
I'm currently sat in my BMW 330d, it's poverty spec, but kitted out with most the equipment I need. It's farely quick, but it's the most uncomfortable car I've ever driven and 11hrs in this gives me severe back ache.
Can't say I've ever had a problem in a 3 series comfort wise. The lack of space in the back isn't ideal though.I'm currently sat in my BMW 330d, it's poverty spec, but kitted out with most the equipment I need. It's farely quick, but it's the most uncomfortable car I've ever driven and 11hrs in this gives me severe back ache.
Performance/economy wise they are fantastic. Which is more than can be said for the V70 D5's some forces seem to be employing as "traffic" cars at the moment.
pointedstarman said:
Elroy Blue said:
Transit for m/way patrol????
You are REALLY, REALLY, REALLY embarrassing yourself now.
No, actually I'm not.You are REALLY, REALLY, REALLY embarrassing yourself now.
The higher power vans carry plenty, have similar performance (when loaded) and have lower through life costs.
Believe me, if the Disco / X5 were cheaper to run over 150 - 200k miles then every breakdown company would use them.
I figure it's an image thing for the force rather than a practical issue.
Similar performance (X5 & transit) ????????
dozydavenport said:
Wish they had nice police cars up in South Wales, went from living at home in Dorset and regularly seeing foci and bmw's to seeing hyundai's and more hyundai's!
Erm not sure what part of south wales you are in, but South wales police have plenty of BMWs 3 series/ 5 series estate and saloon in white and silver.They also have the new volvos and a couple of audi. and landrovers
plus the ARV boys have lexus 4x4 audi Q7 and also couple of X5
Hope this cheers you up lol.
vonhosen said:
pointedstarman said:
Elroy Blue said:
Transit for m/way patrol????
You are REALLY, REALLY, REALLY embarrassing yourself now.
No, actually I'm not.You are REALLY, REALLY, REALLY embarrassing yourself now.
The higher power vans carry plenty, have similar performance (when loaded) and have lower through life costs.
Believe me, if the Disco / X5 were cheaper to run over 150 - 200k miles then every breakdown company would use them.
I figure it's an image thing for the force rather than a practical issue.
Similar performance (X5 & transit) ????????
WRT performance, yes an X5 is higher performance but a Disco is actually slower. Tell me what specific task an X5 is needed for to justify its purchase.
pointedstarman said:
vonhosen said:
pointedstarman said:
Elroy Blue said:
Transit for m/way patrol????
You are REALLY, REALLY, REALLY embarrassing yourself now.
No, actually I'm not.You are REALLY, REALLY, REALLY embarrassing yourself now.
The higher power vans carry plenty, have similar performance (when loaded) and have lower through life costs.
Believe me, if the Disco / X5 were cheaper to run over 150 - 200k miles then every breakdown company would use them.
I figure it's an image thing for the force rather than a practical issue.
Similar performance (X5 & transit) ????????
WRT performance, yes an X5 is higher performance but a Disco is actually slower. Tell me what specific task an X5 is needed for to justify its purchase.
It's not a specific task that leads to the X5 being picked over a Transit, it's the breadth of tasks (& other considerations) that lead to it. The vehicle has to be able to perform in many key areas & the Transit would be so poor in some it would immediately be discounted as unsuitable. (ie one already highlighted - TPAC).
That of course doesn't stop the Transit being used in roles for which it is appropriate & believe it or not that's exactly what does happen, it is purchased & used in other roles for which it is deemed suitable.
Edited by vonhosen on Friday 16th November 20:39
pointedstarman said:
No, actually I'm not.
The higher power vans carry plenty, have similar performance (when loaded) and have lower through life costs.
Believe me, if the Disco / X5 were cheaper to run over 150 - 200k miles then every breakdown company would use them.
I figure it's an image thing for the force rather than a practical issue.
How would you fit all the kit from a rac/aa breakdown van into a discovery/m5?The higher power vans carry plenty, have similar performance (when loaded) and have lower through life costs.
Believe me, if the Disco / X5 were cheaper to run over 150 - 200k miles then every breakdown company would use them.
I figure it's an image thing for the force rather than a practical issue.
baldy1926 said:
The 5 series BMW 's in my area spend far more time in the garage than on the road.
They eat gearboxes,engines,tyres,suspension etc.
Cant wait for the replacements i cant believe how little space there is inside as well
Ours have been the paragon of reliability. They eat the miles. Volvo, on the other hand, has now been binned from the fleet they are so sThey eat gearboxes,engines,tyres,suspension etc.
Cant wait for the replacements i cant believe how little space there is inside as well
te. vonhosen said:
pointedstarman said:
vonhosen said:
pointedstarman said:
Elroy Blue said:
Transit for m/way patrol????
You are REALLY, REALLY, REALLY embarrassing yourself now.
No, actually I'm not.You are REALLY, REALLY, REALLY embarrassing yourself now.
The higher power vans carry plenty, have similar performance (when loaded) and have lower through life costs.
Believe me, if the Disco / X5 were cheaper to run over 150 - 200k miles then every breakdown company would use them.
I figure it's an image thing for the force rather than a practical issue.
Similar performance (X5 & transit) ????????
WRT performance, yes an X5 is higher performance but a Disco is actually slower. Tell me what specific task an X5 is needed for to justify its purchase.
It's not a specific task that leads to the X5 being picked over a Transit, it's the breadth of tasks (& other considerations) that lead to it. The vehicle has to be able to perform in many key areas & the Transit would be so poor in some it would immediately be discounted as unsuitable. (ie one already highlighted - TPAC).
So the X5 is an ideal vehicle for TPAC, I guessing due to performance. So why so many slug like Disco's? If a TPAC is required do you have to retire the Disco's from the scene then because of thier performance?
Look, I don't deny that an X5 is a great car but as one of the people paying for it I'd rather a proper cost / benefit analysis be done on what's the best solution rather than keep bunging money at it because, surprise, surprise, the people who use the cars want the best (read most expensive) cars they can get thier mits on.
pointedstarman said:
Look, I don't deny that an X5 is a great car but as one of the people paying for it I'd rather a proper cost / benefit analysis be done on what's the best solution rather than keep bunging money at it because, surprise, surprise, the people who use the cars want the best (read most expensive) cars they can get thier mits on.
What, you mean like what is done before ANY car is bought.Here is some advice. To save your internet useage, just stick your fingers in your ears and go 'la,la,la'.
You seem to think your the only person who pays tax and that the police who drive the cars swan into a office and demand a new bmw.
Office bods with lovely spreadsheets decide what replaces outgoing the outgoing model.
I'm glad nobody's attacking me for my flash red vauxhall combi van paid for by your taxes
Office bods with lovely spreadsheets decide what replaces outgoing the outgoing model.
I'm glad nobody's attacking me for my flash red vauxhall combi van paid for by your taxes
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