Plebgate - An interesting new twist

[singlecoil]

carinaman said:

singlecoil said:

La Liga said:

Responding to CM

You actually read his stuff? The random jumps in the illogic do my head in.

Perhaps Common Purpose do a course to help you learn how to play the ball and not the man?

If you were to make a single point that was on topic I would consider replying to it, but your stuff is, to keep with your analogy, like an over-voltage pinball machine with all the balls in play at once.

[anonymous-user]

Getting on 3 and a 1/2 years for a few spoken words at a gate. What a farce: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35481055

[Scuffers]

La Liga said:

Getting on 3 and a 1/2 years for a few spoken words at a gate. What a farce: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35481055

you're not wrong...

as a side note, how did that lying scumbag get off?

what does it take to prove he lied if tape recordings and video are not enough?

[RobinOakapple]

Scuffers said:

La Liga said:

Getting on 3 and a 1/2 years for a few spoken words at a gate. What a farce: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35481055

you're not wrong...

as a side note, how did that lying scumbag get off?

what does it take to prove he lied if tape recordings and video are not enough?

Why say he lied? The hearing found otherwise

[Derek Smith]

RobinOakapple said:

Scuffers said:

La Liga said:

Getting on 3 and a 1/2 years for a few spoken words at a gate. What a farce: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35481055

you're not wrong...

as a side note, how did that lying scumbag get off?

what does it take to prove he lied if tape recordings and video are not enough?

Why say he lied? The hearing found otherwise

It's Scuffers. He probably missed the bit which said: . . . Sgt Hinton's honest, accurate and candid view, relying on his good sense and judgement, which no doubt he's relied upon all these years . . .

[Scuffers]

Derek Smith said:

It's Scuffers. He probably missed the bit which said: . . . Sgt Hinton's honest, accurate and candid view, relying on his good sense and judgement, which no doubt he's relied upon all these years . . .

do I have to remind you what he said on camera?

As a Police Officer you are supposed to be beyond reproach, not some sleazy politically driven spinning shrill for the federation.

[anonymous-user]

They tried to play politics and failed. The IPCC whipped up this naivety and forced it into misconduct hearings for which there really was no basis. I don't see why they needed to, there were enough police officers involved who had done things wrong to deal with.

[RobinOakapple]

Scuffers said:

Derek Smith said:

It's Scuffers. He probably missed the bit which said: . . . Sgt Hinton's honest, accurate and candid view, relying on his good sense and judgement, which no doubt he's relied upon all these years . . .

do I have to remind you what he said on camera?

As a Police Officer you are supposed to be beyond reproach, not some sleazy politically driven spinning shrill for the federation.

Thing is, what he said on camera was true.

[Scuffers]

RobinOakapple said:

Thing is, what he said on camera was true.

no, it wasn't, that's the problem

we only know this because of the recording of the meeting that was made, without that, we would have been none the wiser.

call it what you will, but in my book he disgraced the uniform he wears.

[singlecoil]

Scuffers said:

RobinOakapple said:

Thing is, what he said on camera was true.

no, it wasn't, that's the problem

we only know this because of the recording of the meeting that was made, without that, we would have been none the wiser.

call it what you will, but in my book he disgraced the uniform he wears.

IIRC, they said that Mitchell hadn't given a full account of what happened (or something very similar to that)?

But the judge in the libel trial said that Mitchell had used the 'pleb' word or something very similar, so unless Mitchell admitted to that during the discussion with the policemen then he didn't give a full account of what happened. So Mitchell lied and the policemen didn't.

Don't take my word for it, take the word of the judge.

[Rovinghawk]

RobinOakapple said:

Thing is, what he said on camera was true.

What he said on camera was contradicted by the audio recording of the event.

A hearing has found that his conduct in this matter did not fall below the standards required.

Both of those statements are correct & provable. Everyone will form their own conclusions, which I'm sure will vary.

[singlecoil]

Rovinghawk said:

RobinOakapple said:

Thing is, what he said on camera was true.

What he said on camera was contradicted by the audio recording of the event.

We could argue that one, but we can't argue is that what he said on camera was supported by the libel trial judge.

[Scuffers]

singlecoil said:

We could argue that one, but we can't argue is that what he said on camera was supported by the libel trial judge.

and pray tell how has that got any relevance to the discussion we're having right now about his professional conduct case?

[singlecoil]

Scuffers said:

singlecoil said:

We could argue that one, but we can't argue is that what he said on camera was supported by the libel trial judge.

and pray tell how has that got any relevance to the discussion we're having right now about his professional conduct case?

If you can't see that for yourself, then I don't think I am going to be able to explain it, at least, not to your satisfaction.

[Scuffers]

singlecoil said:

If you can't see that for yourself, then I don't think I am going to be able to explain it, at least, not to your satisfaction.

So, please go ahead and explain how the trial has anything yo do with his disciplinary hearing?

[Elroy Blue]

Scuffers said:

So, please go ahead and explain how the trial has anything yo do with his disciplinary hearing?

In the meeting, Mitchell denied saying 'pleb' but wouldn't say what he did say. (Why they never pressed him on this is very odd)

The Judge decided Mitchell did say Pleb. Mitchell therefore didn't give a full and accurate account of what happened.

[Scuffers]

Elroy Blue said:

In the meeting, Mitchell denied saying 'pleb' but wouldn't say what he did say. (Why they never pressed him on this is very odd)

The Judge decided Mitchell did say Pleb. Mitchell therefore didn't give a full and accurate account of what happened.

Sigh...

And again, what has any of this to do with the disciplinary hearing?

[singlecoil]

Scuffers said:

Sigh...

And again, what has any of this to do with the disciplinary hearing?

There are times when answers don't make sense, this is one of those times when it's the question that doesn't make sense.

[Scuffers]

I do wonder why I have to spoon feed some people on here?

look here's a question for you, what was his disciplinary hearing about?

[singlecoil]

Why don't you just make the point you want to make?