Plebgate - An interesting new twist

Plebgate - An interesting new twist

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anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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He used the 'Vaz' defence. Anyone who has had to endure one of those joke Select Committees has already been punished enough for any conceivable crime.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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singlecoil said:
Why don't you just make the point you want to make?
I already have it just apparently you're too stupid to understand what it is.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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To be fair to Scuffers, the issue is whether or not the police officer/s lied about what was said in the meeting when they spoke to the press immediately after, not what was the actual truth of what went on at the gate.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Bingo!


singlecoil

33,601 posts

246 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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La Liga said:
To be fair to Scuffers, the issue is whether or not the police officer/s lied about what was said in the meeting when they spoke to the press immediately after, not what was the actual truth of what went on at the gate.
IIRC they were asked whether Mitchell gave a full account of what happened at the gate, and they said that he didn't. If that was their opinion, based on considerable experience of interviewing suspects, then what was wrong with them saying so?

If anyone has a link to the media interview in question, I'll have another listen.

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

158 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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singlecoil said:
IIRC they were asked whether Mitchell gave a full account of what happened at the gate, and they said that he didn't. If that was their opinion, based on considerable experience of interviewing suspects, then what was wrong with them saying so?
It wasn't their opinion, it was the lie they agreed to tell. Have some proof-

singlecoil said:
If anyone has a link to the media interview in question, I'll have another listen.
10 seconds searching found this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24537521

Even if you listen, I doubt you'll hear what you don't wish to hear.

singlecoil

33,601 posts

246 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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Rovinghawk said:
singlecoil said:
If anyone has a link to the media interview in question, I'll have another listen.
10 seconds searching found this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24537521

Even if you listen, I doubt you'll hear what you don't wish to hear.
Well I'm not hearing what you want me to hear, that's for sure.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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let me out it this way, I would not want to have him giving evidence at any trial I was at.

his ability to be less than full and frank with the facts IHMO is incompatible with being a Police officer.

Devil2575

13,400 posts

188 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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How is this story still going?

I mean, does anyone really care anymore?

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

158 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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Devil2575 said:
How is this story still going?

I mean, does anyone really care anymore?
Clear evidence of him telling fibs. Found in an internal investigation not to have fallen below required standards.
Why would anyone care about that?

williamp

19,256 posts

273 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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I wrote this six months ago. I still believe it..

williamp said:
21 September 2012
Mr Mitchell denies using the word "plebs" but apologises for being disrespectful.
24 September 2012
Mr Mitchell says he wants to "draw a line" under the incident,

This really should have been the end of it. A few choice words after a long day, a public appology and a suggestion to move on should have been the end of it. Maybe a beer bought and a personal appology too. Maybe not. Instead this has been going on for nearly 3 years now.

Devil2575

13,400 posts

188 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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Rovinghawk said:
Devil2575 said:
How is this story still going?

I mean, does anyone really care anymore?
Clear evidence of him telling fibs. Found in an internal investigation not to have fallen below required standards.
Why would anyone care about that?
Well I don't.



Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

158 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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Devil2575 said:
Well I don't.
You don't have to. Others might do so, however.

Derek Smith

45,656 posts

248 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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williamp said:
I wrote this six months ago. I still believe it..

williamp said:
21 September 2012
Mr Mitchell denies using the word "plebs" but apologises for being disrespectful.
24 September 2012
Mr Mitchell says he wants to "draw a line" under the incident,

This really should have been the end of it. A few choice words after a long day, a public appology and a suggestion to move on should have been the end of it. Maybe a beer bought and a personal appology too. Maybe not. Instead this has been going on for nearly 3 years now.
You do know, don't you that the officer called a pleb didn't want the matter proceeded with. He wanted to move on.

It was Mitchell who wouldn't let it go.


Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

158 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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Derek Smith said:
It was Mitchell who wouldn't let it go.
Plus the ones that got convicted and/or sacked?

carinaman

21,292 posts

172 months

Sunday 10th April 2016
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Another 'twist'?


Red Devil

13,060 posts

208 months

Sunday 10th April 2016
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That letter is dated over 18 months ago. Your definition of new seems to somewhat out of kilter with that of the rest of (wo)mankind.