MLM fines come into place today
Discussion
anonymous said:
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Problem is we are used to this mess and bring in a rule that says you can pass either side we are still too many cars on the road. That and I think that as we are used to this system, people will still panic and come in a lane raising the possibility of more accidents.I usually have a reasonable drive most times of the day except rush hours. That is when average IQ of the road drops to a drunk newt. The standard is appalling, all the wannabe F1 drivers and terminally stupid flood the roads to get to work or flood home. There are a few there in the day time as well but watching this creep up and in a van that is limited to 55, you get to see the stupid happen and it is predictable. You are stuck with drivers that have absolutely no idea. Giving them another rule will not improve it.
The current passing on the right creates a safe haven for all the incompetent drivers in the middle lane. No better way of removing that safe haven by allowing cars to pass you on either side.
I witness it at least once or twice on my journeys and very rarely does it ever create a problem. Only when the MLM tries to prevent the undertake does an issue arise.
I witness it at least once or twice on my journeys and very rarely does it ever create a problem. Only when the MLM tries to prevent the undertake does an issue arise.
Roverload said:
I can understand how people get wound up by this type of thing but £100 fine, seems like you can get fined for farting whilst driving now, yet another cash generator if you ask me.
It will certainly generate a lot of cash if they have enough plod out there enforcing it.And it will actually make driving safer and more pleasant. Win win.
supertouring said:
Drove up from Dover on Sat and the M25 now have 4 lanes to play in - but still people sit at 67mph in lane 3 of the four. This leaves two lanes empty.
Why spend all this money increasing the number of lanes when it would be better spent on training the MLMs?
This means you have a whole lane to yourself, with lane 2 as a buffer zone between you and the morons. COuld be worse!Why spend all this money increasing the number of lanes when it would be better spent on training the MLMs?
SonicShadow said:
supertouring said:
Drove up from Dover on Sat and the M25 now have 4 lanes to play in - but still people sit at 67mph in lane 3 of the four. This leaves two lanes empty.
Why spend all this money increasing the number of lanes when it would be better spent on training the MLMs?
This means you have a whole lane to yourself, with lane 2 as a buffer zone between you and the morons. COuld be worse!Why spend all this money increasing the number of lanes when it would be better spent on training the MLMs?
9mm said:
The problem is that if you gain an advantage by travelling in lanes 1 and 2 (assuming 3 and 4 are full of dawdlers doing 67mph or less) then you risk a tug from trafpol.
My understanding is that it's only an overtake if you changed lanes to do it.If you have been in lane 1 all the time, no problem.
I can't find the post where some poster said I use this ( some sort of detector/sat nav etc), but perhaps the best detector is the MK1 eyeball and one aspect of what for years was taught to new drivers, and is now appearing on Speed Awareness Courses -C.O.A.S.T.
C = Courtesy ,and most important ,Concentration ( to lookout for multi coloured vans parked in odd places, where a van might not be parked).
O= observation - to lookout for the above mentioned vans.
C = Courtesy ,and most important ,Concentration ( to lookout for multi coloured vans parked in odd places, where a van might not be parked).
O= observation - to lookout for the above mentioned vans.
pingu393 said:
9mm said:
The problem is that if you gain an advantage by travelling in lanes 1 and 2 (assuming 3 and 4 are full of dawdlers doing 67mph or less) then you risk a tug from trafpol.
My understanding is that it's only an overtake if you changed lanes to do it.If you have been in lane 1 all the time, no problem.
HC said:
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Do not overtake on the left OR move to a lane on your left to overtake.
Do not overtake on the left OR move to a lane on your left to overtake.
My emphasis
vonhosen said:
pingu393 said:
9mm said:
The problem is that if you gain an advantage by travelling in lanes 1 and 2 (assuming 3 and 4 are full of dawdlers doing 67mph or less) then you risk a tug from trafpol.
My understanding is that it's only an overtake if you changed lanes to do it.If you have been in lane 1 all the time, no problem.
HC said:
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Do not overtake on the left OR move to a lane on your left to overtake.
Do not overtake on the left OR move to a lane on your left to overtake.
My emphasis
9mm said:
The problem is that if you gain an advantage by travelling in lanes 1 and 2 (assuming 3 and 4 are full of dawdlers doing 67mph or less) then you risk a tug from trafpol.
I moved from lane 1 to lane 2 to overtake a police car and the car behind it doing ~65mph. When it pulled into L2 and cut me up followed by putting its lights on, the fact that I'd undertaken a few cars in L2/3/4 (I'd sat in L1 since joinging the motorway several junctions earlier) all also doing ~65mph did cause me to think about a change of undwerwear. Fortunately (for me) he continued into L4 and the distance 
. A few minutes later I did see him again, on the hard shoulder along with two estates he'd gone to chat to.karona said:
It needs to be a frequent occurrence rather than a rare one....The sheer volume of these idiots is truly astounding, but it will never get better without policing.
It's not helped by the media often referring to the different lanes as either the "slow " or "fast " lane....
karona said:
The article intimates that this is the first prosecution, is that true?divetheworld said:
karona said:
The article intimates that this is the first prosecution, is that true?
BertBert said:
Er "theladbible"? That'll be a reliable source then.
It's elsewhere on t'web, too. http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/motorist-beco...Still, one prosecution every two years. I can see how this will be huge deterrent.
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