Tax disk and private reg?

[PV7998]

I understand that, what I was thinking was that the dealer would change the owner details on the V5 at the same time - although I realise that the email I had from the DVLA said that you shouldn't, but as I said, I'm no expert so I stand to be corrected.

[Chiswickboy]

PV7998 said:

I have just taken the plate off my Cerb to put on a retention certificate. Because I was unsure if the procedure had changed I did an email enquiry to the DVLA.

Here's their reply.........

"Only as the vehicle keeper do you have entitlement to apply to retain a number. The keeper should not sell or dispose of the vehicle until a transfer or retention has been completed and a replacement V5C is received, this can take up to 6 weeks. If the vehicle is sold or disposed of before a replacement V5C is issued, the entitlement to the number may be lost.

Hence you should apply to do the retention application first and then transfer the vehicle over to the new keeper afterwards.

Please note the keeper can apply to retain the registration number in a buyers/friends/family member’s name. The V778 Retention Document will then show that person as the 'grantee', or retainer, of the number. However, by doing this the keeper will pass on the rights to display that registration number to the named person.

Please note that for vehicles to take part in the Cherished Transfer or Retention scheme, they are required to meet the following criteria:

• be available for inspection
• be subject to either MOT/PCV or a Goods Vehicle test
• The tax disc from the vehicle which the number is being transferred from must have expired or have been refunded with a continuous Statutory Off Road Notification (SORN) made within the last 12 months.

In order to retain a number the following documentation will be required:

• V317 application to transfer or retain a number
• V5C Registration Certificate. If this is not available as the vehicle has recently been purchased or transferred you can include the V5C/2 "new keeper supplement", but this must be accompanied by a V62 application for a vehicle registration certificate.
• current MOT Certificate (if applicable)
• payment of £105 to retain the number for twelve months, £130 to retain the number for 2 years and £155 to retain the number for 3 years. Please note the assignment fee is included. When you are ready to put the number onto a vehicle, you will not have to pay an assignment fee.

This application needs to be sent to DVLA, Swansea, SA99 1DS.

DVLA will allocate a replacement number to the vehicle, currently carrying the vehicle registration number, which will normally be the previous registration number of the vehicle. However, if the previous number cannot be returned another age-related number will be issued.

Once a successful application has been received at DVLA you should receive a confirmation letter with the new MOT Certificates and tax discs within 2 weeks.

Your updated V5C and V778 Retention Document will be received within 6 weeks, unless you have submitted a V62 application in which case you should receive your new V5C within 8 weeks."

If I read this correctly, only the RK can apply for a transfer, not the owner?

I understood that previously a transfer or retention required the donor vehicle to have a current MOT certificate (or was it "tax" disk)?. From the above, it says "be subject to a ..... test" and goes on to say that an application for retention must be accompanied by a current MOT certificate (if applicable). What then is the situation regarding a pre-1960 car?

Can anyone with practical experience clarify?

Thanks.

[Red Devil]

Chiswickboy said:

If I read this correctly, only the RK can apply for a transfer, not the owner?

Correct.

Chiswickboy said:

I understood that previously a transfer or retention required the donor vehicle to have a current MOT certificate (or was it "tax" disk)?. From the above, it says "be subject to a ..... test" and goes on to say that an application for retention must be accompanied by a current MOT certificate (if applicable). What then is the situation regarding a pre-1960 car?

Can anyone with practical experience clarify?

Thanks.

All you need to know - https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
A pre-1960 car is now MOT exempt - https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
Ergo - per the V317, it's not appropriate.

[AGK]

DVLA site says you can use the V5C to put the plates on your car and the tax will follow in the post.

I got my V5C a week before the tax disc.

[Chiswickboy]

Red Devil said:

Chiswickboy said:

If I read this correctly, only the RK can apply for a transfer, not the owner?

Correct.

Chiswickboy said:

I understood that previously a transfer or retention required the donor vehicle to have a current MOT certificate (or was it "tax" disk)?. From the above, it says "be subject to a ..... test" and goes on to say that an application for retention must be accompanied by a current MOT certificate (if applicable). What then is the situation regarding a pre-1960 car?

Can anyone with practical experience clarify?

Thanks.

All you need to know - https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
A pre-1960 car is now MOT exempt - https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
Ergo - per the V317, it's not appropriate.

Excellent. Thank you

[Chiswickboy]

Red Devil said:

Chiswickboy said:

If I read this correctly, only the RK can apply for a transfer, not the owner?

Correct.

Chiswickboy said:

I understood that previously a transfer or retention required the donor vehicle to have a current MOT certificate (or was it "tax" disk)?. From the above, it says "be subject to a ..... test" and goes on to say that an application for retention must be accompanied by a current MOT certificate (if applicable). What then is the situation regarding a pre-1960 car?

Can anyone with practical experience clarify?

Thanks.

All you need to know - https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
A pre-1960 car is now MOT exempt - https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
Ergo - per the V317, it's not appropriate.

Excellent. Thank you

[stephenperry]

Just to update I got the V5 for the new car today (with its current reg), still haven't received anything regarding my old 'un or retention certificate - I emailed DVLA and got a standard reply back saying that I have to allow 6 weeks and not to contact them again until the 6 weeks is up...

[Devil2575]

stephenperry said:

Just to update I got the V5 for the new car today (with its current reg), still haven't received anything regarding my old 'un or retention certificate - I emailed DVLA and got a standard reply back saying that I have to allow 6 weeks and not to contact them again until the 6 weeks is up...

Do I remember you from the BMW Owners Club forum and then the Barvarian Board?

[stephenperry]

yes you do! (furiously casting my mind back to see if I offended anyone unintentionally)

ah Peter, that name sounds familiar

[markmullen]

Due to Swansea not being able to cope with the deluge of applications that would normally have gone through local offices things are all over the place, applications taking ages, logbooks arriving before replacement disks etc.

[stephenperry]

Just to close this one off the certificate arrived this morning for retention so that's almost a month to give anyone else an indicator who may be in a similar boat at the moment

[PV7998]

Not quite closed off.......but more or less the same for me. V5 arrived about 2 weeks after sending off the V317 then about 2 weeks after that the retention certificate arrived then 2 days later the revised tax disc and MOT arrived.
Just as stephenperry says.....give it about one month

[andysgriff]

Recently purchased a car from dealer, MOT cert was issued on 2nd April 14 on the private plate that has since been removed. I have a copy of the V984 for the authorisation to put the original plate back on.
Problem is I cannot apply for tax disc online as it isn't showing as having a valid MOT, (as it was done on the private plate).
Will this be a problem when trying to tax the car, i.e will I need to get a new MOT?
Thanks, confused...

[Martin_M]

awg454 said:

Since Swansea have been doing the transfers rather than the local offices,the discs come after the reg doc I was told to change the plate as soon as I got the new reg doc

This - police forces have been advised by DVLA that this is acceptable even before you get your new disc - I had the same thing.

[gizard]

Hi All I have a question - I am part exing my car at a dealer for a new car:

- current car has a private reg I want to keep
- current car also has 11 months tax remaining
- new car will not arrive until sept 1st at least so plate cannot be transferred straight away.

as it is going to a dealer how should it work - I guess plate retention 1st, then wait for replacement tax disc to apply for refund and then sign over the car to dealer?

[39sl]

Put your plate onto retention.
If your new car is a new and unregistered car, you can ask the garage to register your new car with the private plate rather than have a 64 plate. This is exactly what I did in March and it was simple and no hassle.
The refund of the tax disc is something the dealer will work out with you.