woman killed in rta with hired R8
Discussion
1OS said:
Wasn't surprised that this happened in Birmingham tbh. I had the misfortune of living nearby for a few years for work and the place is like a third world country. Dirty, everyone drives like 
s and everything seems in a perpetual state of decline. RIP to those involved, had I not had the experience of Birmingham and its universal stness I'd consider not writing the R8 guy off as fast, but in this case...
This is just ss and everything seems in a perpetual state of decline. RIP to those involved, had I not had the experience of Birmingham and its universal stness I'd consider not writing the R8 guy off as fast, but in this case...te to be honest.So you'd consider not writing him off but because you have lived there you can honesty know the character of this person.
I know some really s
te estates in Middlesbrough where there's loads of trouble. However I wouldn't dream of writing people off just because they came from there, after all the best man at my wedding came from one. Edited by Devil2575 on Friday 30th August 19:35
1OS said:
Wasn't surprised that this happened in Birmingham tbh. I had the misfortune of living nearby for a few years for work and the place is like a third world country. Dirty, everyone drives like s and everything seems in a perpetual state of decline. RIP to those involved, had I not had the experience of Birmingham and its universal stness I'd consider not writing the R8 guy off as fast, but in this case...
What has the place got to do with the actual incident? ...what a load of bs and everything seems in a perpetual state of decline. RIP to those involved, had I not had the experience of Birmingham and its universal stness I'd consider not writing the R8 guy off as fast, but in this case...ks 
1OS said:
rigga said:
What has the place got to do with the actual incident? ...what a load of bks
The fact that Birmingham is an awful place to drive, worse in certain areas and that is in part thanks to those who live there. Never seen the likes of it anywhere else. ks Why you would think its any worse than any other city to drive in is beyond me.
1OS said:
The fact that Birmingham is an awful place to drive, worse in certain areas and that is in part thanks to those who live there. Never seen the likes of it anywhere else.
Stap me, whilst I agree the driving is absolutely st, I don't really regard it as dangerous at all, just st.If you think Brum is bad, don't drive in any capital city whatever you do. (And Londoners are amateurs imo compared to drivers in other capitals).
Phil Dicky said:
Starfighter said:
So, the charge list...
Driver
Excess speed - Physical evidence from the impact damage.
Damgerous / Careless / WoDCA.
Failure to stop (doing a runner).
Failure to provide details at the road side.
TWOC / Agrivated Vehicle taking.
Without insurance.
Renter
Causing or permitting no insurnce by allowing the drive to take the wheel.
Anything else?
Renter will just claim vehicle taken without his knowledgeDriver
Excess speed - Physical evidence from the impact damage.
Damgerous / Careless / WoDCA.
Failure to stop (doing a runner).
Failure to provide details at the road side.
TWOC / Agrivated Vehicle taking.
Without insurance.
Renter
Causing or permitting no insurnce by allowing the drive to take the wheel.
Anything else?
Main story aside what type of people pay £600 a day (or £1400 for a weekend) to hire a car.
That is a serious amount of cash and well in excess of a weeks take-home for the vast majority. (I do of course realise that for most PH'ers it's just pocket change)
Anyone that does have that type of cash to chuck around probably wouldn't need the hire because they would already have something similar or could probably blag a free test drive for a day or so as an already established customer.
That is a serious amount of cash and well in excess of a weeks take-home for the vast majority. (I do of course realise that for most PH'ers it's just pocket change)
Anyone that does have that type of cash to chuck around probably wouldn't need the hire because they would already have something similar or could probably blag a free test drive for a day or so as an already established customer.
over_the_hill said:
Main story aside what type of people pay £600 a day (or £1400 for a weekend) to hire a car.
That is a serious amount of cash and well in excess of a weeks take-home for the vast majority. (I do of course realise that for most PH'ers it's just pocket change)
Anyone that does have that type of cash to chuck around probably wouldn't need the hire because they would already have something similar or could probably blag a free test drive for a day or so as an already established customer.
Idiotic kids with no gump, who have mediocre jobs, but pay nothing out as they live with mummy and daddy...?That is a serious amount of cash and well in excess of a weeks take-home for the vast majority. (I do of course realise that for most PH'ers it's just pocket change)
Anyone that does have that type of cash to chuck around probably wouldn't need the hire because they would already have something similar or could probably blag a free test drive for a day or so as an already established customer.
But whom have illusions of grandieur as well as a L'oreal generation outlook.
Of course no one has (yet) speculated on the enthicity of the driver / hirer, Im sur ethey woudl have done if this had happedned a couple or three weeks before....
over_the_hill said:
Main story aside what type of people pay £600 a day (or £1400 for a weekend) to hire a car.
That is a serious amount of cash and well in excess of a weeks take-home for the vast majority. (I do of course realise that for most PH'ers it's just pocket change)
Anyone that does have that type of cash to chuck around probably wouldn't need the hire because they would already have something similar or could probably blag a free test drive for a day or so as an already established customer.
To be fair the love of cars is not defined by income so there are an awful lot of people in the UK who are very pasionate about cars but will never earn enough to own one so saving up for a weekend experience in one is a very big thing. In many ways I would say it was a more sensible way to spunk some hard earned than a week in Ayanappa banging the same kind of pigs you'd be dragging out of the local Whetherspoons back home. I would also argue that it probably shows a more prudent mindset than the typical bloke who cripples himself with crappy debt to buy somethign half arsed.That is a serious amount of cash and well in excess of a weeks take-home for the vast majority. (I do of course realise that for most PH'ers it's just pocket change)
Anyone that does have that type of cash to chuck around probably wouldn't need the hire because they would already have something similar or could probably blag a free test drive for a day or so as an already established customer.
I once went to Birmingham to buy a car with a friend.
Upon getting there the car had been moted by the owners uncle only a day before. I found numerous faults with car which were mot failures and clearly not just happened in the last 24 hrs. The owner produced a v5 not in her name and it turned out to be the previous keeper and she just hadn't bothered changing it in two years of ownership. They had a big house with some nice cars and looked to have money and generally didnt seem to have any respect for the legislation in this country covering car ownership. Last time I went to Birmingham lucky.
I expect it was self employed (non tax paying) types who deal in cash for mobile phones and accessories and they have the type of cash needed to hire a car like this, but have little respect for our laws.
Upon getting there the car had been moted by the owners uncle only a day before. I found numerous faults with car which were mot failures and clearly not just happened in the last 24 hrs. The owner produced a v5 not in her name and it turned out to be the previous keeper and she just hadn't bothered changing it in two years of ownership. They had a big house with some nice cars and looked to have money and generally didnt seem to have any respect for the legislation in this country covering car ownership. Last time I went to Birmingham lucky.
I expect it was self employed (non tax paying) types who deal in cash for mobile phones and accessories and they have the type of cash needed to hire a car like this, but have little respect for our laws.
Not unusual.
I've recently left London, Tower Hamlets to be precise. It's this sort of thing which made a move to the English countryside such a joy. I don't have to put up with it any more.
Every weekend the Asda car park at Canary Wharf was crammed with idiotic youths and rented fast cars.
It goes like this.
1. Mr X (aged 50) rents a Gallardo/R8/Conti GT (usually a white one) for say £1000 a day. Pays cash and uses hooky documents so he's untraceable.
2. Mr X rents said Gallardo/R8/Conti GT to local yoofs with directional hair and long pointy shoes who have no licences, and no right to be driving the hired car for short period so that they can drive it like pricks and show off to their dumb mates and vacant bandy legged 14 year old girlfriends.
Normally Mr X charges around £200 in used notes innit for a 15 minute hoon, during which the unlicensed yoofs will rag the poor car in first gear bouncing off the limiter and perform donuts in the said Asds car park, threatening the lives of anyone unfortanate enough to be anywhere near at the time.
3.Mr X makes £800 in cash an hour out of this, so over a 12 hour day say £9,600, so he makes £8,600 profit (tax free all cash dough bruv innit innit innit dough bruv so I can still get housing benefit innit).
Tends to happen a lot at weddings and high school "proms" whatever the fk they are................
fking pricks of the highest order.
I've recently left London, Tower Hamlets to be precise. It's this sort of thing which made a move to the English countryside such a joy. I don't have to put up with it any more.
Every weekend the Asda car park at Canary Wharf was crammed with idiotic youths and rented fast cars.
It goes like this.
1. Mr X (aged 50) rents a Gallardo/R8/Conti GT (usually a white one) for say £1000 a day. Pays cash and uses hooky documents so he's untraceable.
2. Mr X rents said Gallardo/R8/Conti GT to local yoofs with directional hair and long pointy shoes who have no licences, and no right to be driving the hired car for short period so that they can drive it like pricks and show off to their dumb mates and vacant bandy legged 14 year old girlfriends.
Normally Mr X charges around £200 in used notes innit for a 15 minute hoon, during which the unlicensed yoofs will rag the poor car in first gear bouncing off the limiter and perform donuts in the said Asds car park, threatening the lives of anyone unfortanate enough to be anywhere near at the time.
3.Mr X makes £800 in cash an hour out of this, so over a 12 hour day say £9,600, so he makes £8,600 profit (tax free all cash dough bruv innit innit innit dough bruv so I can still get housing benefit innit).
Tends to happen a lot at weddings and high school "proms" whatever the f
k they are................f
king pricks of the highest order.Edited by RSoovy4 on Wednesday 4th September 11:06
RSoovy4 said:
Not unusual.
I've recently left London, Tower Hamlets to be precise. It's this sort of thing which made a move to the English countryside such a joy.
Every weekend the Asda car park at Canary Wharf was crammed with idiotic youths and rented fast cars. It goes like this.
1. Mr X (aged 50) rents a Gallardo/R8/Conti GT (usually a white one) for say £1000 a day. Pays cash and uses hooky documents so he's untraceable.
2. Mr X rents said Gallardo/R8/Conti GT to local yoofs with directional hair and long pointy shoes who have no licences, and no right to be driving the hired car.
Normally he charges around £200 cash innit for a 15 minute hoon, during which the unlicensed yoofs will rag the poor car in first gear bouncing off the limiter and perform donuts in the said Asds car park, threatening the lives of anyone unfortanate enough to be anywhere near at the time.
3.Mr X makes £800 an hour out of this, so over a 12 hour day say £9,600, so he makes £8,600 profit (tax free all cash dough bruv innit innit innit dough bruv).
Tends to happen a lot at weddings and high school "proms" whatever the fk they are................
fking pricks of the highest order.
Didn't know you've now moved out Soov. Sorry to see you go. I've recently left London, Tower Hamlets to be precise. It's this sort of thing which made a move to the English countryside such a joy.
Every weekend the Asda car park at Canary Wharf was crammed with idiotic youths and rented fast cars. It goes like this.
1. Mr X (aged 50) rents a Gallardo/R8/Conti GT (usually a white one) for say £1000 a day. Pays cash and uses hooky documents so he's untraceable.
2. Mr X rents said Gallardo/R8/Conti GT to local yoofs with directional hair and long pointy shoes who have no licences, and no right to be driving the hired car.
Normally he charges around £200 cash innit for a 15 minute hoon, during which the unlicensed yoofs will rag the poor car in first gear bouncing off the limiter and perform donuts in the said Asds car park, threatening the lives of anyone unfortanate enough to be anywhere near at the time.
3.Mr X makes £800 an hour out of this, so over a 12 hour day say £9,600, so he makes £8,600 profit (tax free all cash dough bruv innit innit innit dough bruv).
Tends to happen a lot at weddings and high school "proms" whatever the f
k they are................f
king pricks of the highest order.The description is spot on though. Given that what is going on is so transparently obvious, even to thickies like me, I remain astonished that something isn't done about it. The fine, upstanding guy who smashed up the R8 (original topic of this thread) was likely to be in this category and that's an accident that could have been prevented.
f
king pricks - precisely. Oli.
zcacogp said:
RSoovy4 said:
Not unusual.
I've recently left London, Tower Hamlets to be precise. It's this sort of thing which made a move to the English countryside such a joy.
Every weekend the Asda car park at Canary Wharf was crammed with idiotic youths and rented fast cars. It goes like this.
1. Mr X (aged 50) rents a Gallardo/R8/Conti GT (usually a white one) for say £1000 a day. Pays cash and uses hooky documents so he's untraceable.
2. Mr X rents said Gallardo/R8/Conti GT to local yoofs with directional hair and long pointy shoes who have no licences, and no right to be driving the hired car.
Normally he charges around £200 cash innit for a 15 minute hoon, during which the unlicensed yoofs will rag the poor car in first gear bouncing off the limiter and perform donuts in the said Asds car park, threatening the lives of anyone unfortanate enough to be anywhere near at the time.
3.Mr X makes £800 an hour out of this, so over a 12 hour day say £9,600, so he makes £8,600 profit (tax free all cash dough bruv innit innit innit dough bruv).
Tends to happen a lot at weddings and high school "proms" whatever the fk they are................
fking pricks of the highest order.
Didn't know you've now moved out Soov. Sorry to see you go. I've recently left London, Tower Hamlets to be precise. It's this sort of thing which made a move to the English countryside such a joy.
Every weekend the Asda car park at Canary Wharf was crammed with idiotic youths and rented fast cars. It goes like this.
1. Mr X (aged 50) rents a Gallardo/R8/Conti GT (usually a white one) for say £1000 a day. Pays cash and uses hooky documents so he's untraceable.
2. Mr X rents said Gallardo/R8/Conti GT to local yoofs with directional hair and long pointy shoes who have no licences, and no right to be driving the hired car.
Normally he charges around £200 cash innit for a 15 minute hoon, during which the unlicensed yoofs will rag the poor car in first gear bouncing off the limiter and perform donuts in the said Asds car park, threatening the lives of anyone unfortanate enough to be anywhere near at the time.
3.Mr X makes £800 an hour out of this, so over a 12 hour day say £9,600, so he makes £8,600 profit (tax free all cash dough bruv innit innit innit dough bruv).
Tends to happen a lot at weddings and high school "proms" whatever the f
k they are................f
king pricks of the highest order.The description is spot on though. Given that what is going on is so transparently obvious, even to thickies like me, I remain astonished that something isn't done about it. The fine, upstanding guy who smashed up the R8 (original topic of this thread) was likely to be in this category and that's an accident that could have been prevented.
f
king pricks - precisely. Oli.
I'm glad I'm out.
Edited by RSoovy4 on Wednesday 4th September 11:20
RedSpike66 said:
Phil Dicky said:
Starfighter said:
So, the charge list...
Driver
Excess speed - Physical evidence from the impact damage.
Damgerous / Careless / WoDCA.
Failure to stop (doing a runner).
Failure to provide details at the road side.
TWOC / Agrivated Vehicle taking.
Without insurance.
Renter
Causing or permitting no insurnce by allowing the drive to take the wheel.
Anything else?
Renter will just claim vehicle taken without his knowledgeDriver
Excess speed - Physical evidence from the impact damage.
Damgerous / Careless / WoDCA.
Failure to stop (doing a runner).
Failure to provide details at the road side.
TWOC / Agrivated Vehicle taking.
Without insurance.
Renter
Causing or permitting no insurnce by allowing the drive to take the wheel.
Anything else?
RSoovy4 said:
From what I hear there's been trouble recently at that car park - the local Serbian car wash blokes (who are very decent fellows as far as I have experienced having given some of them some legal advice about visa and the like in exchnage for washing the RS) have been getting fed up with it, and have given a few of the yoofs and their uncles a bit of a warning to do it somewhere else or get a hiding from some big lads with civil war experience.
Now that's a scrap I'd like to see. And I'd buy the Serbian guys a pint or two afterwards. Oli.
RSoovy4 said:
Not unusual.
I've recently left London, Tower Hamlets to be precise. It's this sort of thing which made a move to the English countryside such a joy. I don't have to put up with it any more.
Every weekend the Asda car park at Canary Wharf was crammed with idiotic youths and rented fast cars.
It goes like this.
1. Mr X (aged 50) rents a Gallardo/R8/Conti GT (usually a white one) for say £1000 a day. Pays cash and uses hooky documents so he's untraceable.
2. Mr X rents said Gallardo/R8/Conti GT to local yoofs with directional hair and long pointy shoes who have no licences, and no right to be driving the hired car for short period so that they can drive it like pricks and show off to their dumb mates and vacant bandy legged 14 year old girlfriends.
Normally Mr X charges around £200 in used notes innit for a 15 minute hoon, during which the unlicensed yoofs will rag the poor car in first gear bouncing off the limiter and perform donuts in the said Asds car park, threatening the lives of anyone unfortanate enough to be anywhere near at the time.
3.Mr X makes £800 in cash an hour out of this, so over a 12 hour day say £9,600, so he makes £8,600 profit (tax free all cash dough bruv innit innit innit dough bruv so I can still get housing benefit innit).
Tends to happen a lot at weddings and high school "proms" whatever the fk they are................
fking pricks of the highest order.
Sounds like absolute sI've recently left London, Tower Hamlets to be precise. It's this sort of thing which made a move to the English countryside such a joy. I don't have to put up with it any more.
Every weekend the Asda car park at Canary Wharf was crammed with idiotic youths and rented fast cars.
It goes like this.
1. Mr X (aged 50) rents a Gallardo/R8/Conti GT (usually a white one) for say £1000 a day. Pays cash and uses hooky documents so he's untraceable.
2. Mr X rents said Gallardo/R8/Conti GT to local yoofs with directional hair and long pointy shoes who have no licences, and no right to be driving the hired car for short period so that they can drive it like pricks and show off to their dumb mates and vacant bandy legged 14 year old girlfriends.
Normally Mr X charges around £200 in used notes innit for a 15 minute hoon, during which the unlicensed yoofs will rag the poor car in first gear bouncing off the limiter and perform donuts in the said Asds car park, threatening the lives of anyone unfortanate enough to be anywhere near at the time.
3.Mr X makes £800 in cash an hour out of this, so over a 12 hour day say £9,600, so he makes £8,600 profit (tax free all cash dough bruv innit innit innit dough bruv so I can still get housing benefit innit).
Tends to happen a lot at weddings and high school "proms" whatever the f
k they are................f
king pricks of the highest order.Edited by RSoovy4 on Wednesday 4th September 11:06
te to me...KFC said:
RSoovy4 said:
Not unusual.
I've recently left London, Tower Hamlets to be precise. It's this sort of thing which made a move to the English countryside such a joy. I don't have to put up with it any more.
Every weekend the Asda car park at Canary Wharf was crammed with idiotic youths and rented fast cars.
It goes like this.
1. Mr X (aged 50) rents a Gallardo/R8/Conti GT (usually a white one) for say £1000 a day. Pays cash and uses hooky documents so he's untraceable.
2. Mr X rents said Gallardo/R8/Conti GT to local yoofs with directional hair and long pointy shoes who have no licences, and no right to be driving the hired car for short period so that they can drive it like pricks and show off to their dumb mates and vacant bandy legged 14 year old girlfriends.
Normally Mr X charges around £200 in used notes innit for a 15 minute hoon, during which the unlicensed yoofs will rag the poor car in first gear bouncing off the limiter and perform donuts in the said Asds car park, threatening the lives of anyone unfortanate enough to be anywhere near at the time.
3.Mr X makes £800 in cash an hour out of this, so over a 12 hour day say £9,600, so he makes £8,600 profit (tax free all cash dough bruv innit innit innit dough bruv so I can still get housing benefit innit).
Tends to happen a lot at weddings and high school "proms" whatever the fk they are................
fking pricks of the highest order.
Sounds like absolute sI've recently left London, Tower Hamlets to be precise. It's this sort of thing which made a move to the English countryside such a joy. I don't have to put up with it any more.
Every weekend the Asda car park at Canary Wharf was crammed with idiotic youths and rented fast cars.
It goes like this.
1. Mr X (aged 50) rents a Gallardo/R8/Conti GT (usually a white one) for say £1000 a day. Pays cash and uses hooky documents so he's untraceable.
2. Mr X rents said Gallardo/R8/Conti GT to local yoofs with directional hair and long pointy shoes who have no licences, and no right to be driving the hired car for short period so that they can drive it like pricks and show off to their dumb mates and vacant bandy legged 14 year old girlfriends.
Normally Mr X charges around £200 in used notes innit for a 15 minute hoon, during which the unlicensed yoofs will rag the poor car in first gear bouncing off the limiter and perform donuts in the said Asds car park, threatening the lives of anyone unfortanate enough to be anywhere near at the time.
3.Mr X makes £800 in cash an hour out of this, so over a 12 hour day say £9,600, so he makes £8,600 profit (tax free all cash dough bruv innit innit innit dough bruv so I can still get housing benefit innit).
Tends to happen a lot at weddings and high school "proms" whatever the f
k they are................f
king pricks of the highest order.Edited by RSoovy4 on Wednesday 4th September 11:06
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