What's Wrong With American Cops?

[vxr8mate]

2ono said:

Not sure if this has been covered on here yet...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embed...

He did seem to be chasing him for some distance.

[George111]

vxr8mate said:

2ono said:

Not sure if this has been covered on here yet...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embed...

He did seem to be chasing him for some distance.

And ? Is that a reason to be kicked or even hand cuffed ? He's guilty of speeding and perhaps dangerous driving, he's not a criminal.

[4x4Tyke]

George111 said:

vxr8mate said:

2ono said:

Not sure if this has been covered on here yet...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embed...

He did seem to be chasing him for some distance.

And ? Is that a reason to be kicked or even hand cuffed ? He's guilty of speeding and perhaps dangerous driving, he's not a criminal.

Presumable it was an unmarked given the initial overtake, the coppers driving is much more dangerous, he overtakes on approaching a blind crest and repeated crosses the double centre lines on bends, at one point 2:40 forcing another biker into the gutter. Nothing in the 'chase' justifies the final actions.

The most shocking part is despite the video and court case the cop is reported to have been promoted not sacked.

[anonymous-user]

Looks like a response similar to what I wrote on the last page:

La Liga said:

I'm no expert on US policing, but it looks like a lot of the problems come from not being able to escalate and de-escalate in line with a changing situation. It's almost as if once they're at a 10 they must remain at a 10.

[XCP]

for $180,000 he could kick me twice if he really wanted...

[Greendubber]

Bloody hell.

[Hol]

So crime does pay then!!

You just need to evade arrest long enough to get a kicking on camera,

[Devil2575]

I like this comment below the video:

Because sometimes, when your Officer Rambo Mcfktard, you just gotta prove to everyone that you're one tough motherfker. Otherwise, how would they know?

I'm guessing but it looks to me very much like the COP was angry about him not stopping sooner and let this anger influence his actions.

[BrownBottle]

So much aggression.

I'm not sure what kind of training they give the police in America but they seriously need to reassess it. The public must despise them.

[vxr8mate]

George111 said:

vxr8mate said:

2ono said:

Not sure if this has been covered on here yet...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embed...

He did seem to be chasing him for some distance.

He's guilty of speeding, failing to stop and perhaps dangerous driving, he's a criminal.

Fixed that for you.

[mph1977]

BrownBottle said:

So much aggression.

I'm not sure what kind of training they give the police in America but they seriously need to reassess it. The public must despise them.

the US has a funny attitude towards training for emergency services personnel in general

as a rule the training is far shorter than elsewhere i nthe world, pitched at a lower academic level and in some cases is open access ...

[N Dentressangle]

BrownBottle said:

So much aggression.

I'm not sure what kind of training they give the police in America but they seriously need to reassess it. The public must despise them.

Makes you see why so many Americans want to keep a gun. They need something to protect themselves from their own police.

[Hol]

N Dentressangle said:

BrownBottle said:

So much aggression.

I'm not sure what kind of training they give the police in America but they seriously need to reassess it. The public must despise them.

Makes you see why so many Americans want to keep a gun. They need something to protect themselves from their own police.

To be fair, thats probably an better argument for the other side.

It cant be in anyway fun trying to arrest somebody who just robbed/killed/injured a citizen whilst they are trying to kill you during their escape.


Perhaps, the Police should only serve for 2 or 3 years and leave the service whilst they are still full of their moral need to protect & serve joe public - and long before they become the emotionally damaged types that lash out in retailiation.

I cannot see who that would work though. As you would have force of rookies with no experincence detectives.

Edited by Hol on Friday 29th January 12:03

[Tannedbaldhead]

BrownBottle said:

So much aggression.

I'm not sure what kind of training they give the police in America but they seriously need to reassess it. The public must despise them.

Strange thing is many love their cops and the way they behave.

A fire chief or a paramedic can hear a police officer tell one of their staff working at an incident to do something he considers unsafe. In response the senior emergency responder instructs his staff "don't do what the cop is telling you. Do what I say". This has resulted in the senior emergency responder ending up on the floor, in cuffs and with a cop sitting on him shouting "you just obstructed a police officer. You're going to jail". In the UK our jaws would be on the floor. What shocks me is the number of comments you see when the story and video is posted saying "You just can't defy a cop like that. The fire chief/paramedic was dumb. He was lucky he didn't get his ass kicked"
When someone deaf, a non English speaker, a woman listening to music on headphones and an autistic child all got beaten for failing to comply fully and immediately with instructions again, rather than express shock, a lot of members of the public state "I kinda feel sorry for the victim but the poor cop wasn't to know the person they kicked the st out of couldn't hear or understand them".

[jaf01uk]

Tannedbaldhead said:

BrownBottle said:

So much aggression.

I'm not sure what kind of training they give the police in America but they seriously need to reassess it. The public must despise them.

Strange thing is many love their cops and the way they behave.

A fire chief or a paramedic can hear a police officer tell one of their staff working at an incident to do something he considers unsafe. In response the senior emergency responder instructs his staff "don't do what the cop is telling you. Do what I say". This has resulted in the senior emergency responder ending up on the floor, in cuffs and with a cop sitting on him shouting "you just obstructed a police officer. You're going to jail". In the UK our jaws would be on the floor. What shocks me is the number of comments you see when the story and video is posted saying "You just can't defy a cop like that. The fire chief/paramedic was dumb. He was lucky he didn't get his ass kicked"
When someone deaf, a non English speaker, a woman listening to music on headphones and an autistic child all got beaten for failing to comply fully and immediately with instructions again, rather than express shock, a lot of members of the public state "I kinda feel sorry for the victim but the poor cop wasn't to know the person they kicked the st out of couldn't hear or understand them".

They're looking like they're going to vote that eejit Trump into the Whitehouse!! - how can that be a sane country, is that the best they can do??

[XCP]

There used to be an old saying that society gets the policing it deserves.

[BrownBottle]

It seems they don't always get away with acting like animals.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f65_1454022812

Stop resisting...erm.

Looks like at least one of them will be doing time.

[Elroy Blue]

Where's the outrage and protests. Certain posters seem to be keen to list what goes on in the USA

https://www.officerdownthethinblueline.org/recent-...

[stuttgartmetal]

That good old need for guns eh

Day 2
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[RDMcG]

There is no doubt that there have been some appalling acts by police officers. I have a winter home in Scottsdale Arizona which in general is a fairly calm place. However it is estimated that nearly 70% of drivers in Arizona are armed so there is at least some explanation as to how twitchy they can be at a traffic stop. I have driven through some very remote parts of the US and I can imagine what it would be like to pull over a car at night on an empty road .This is not of course a defence for the excesses that are regularly reported here.