What's Wrong With American Cops?

[Derek Smith]

JumboBeef said:

markclow said:

Try that in England.

Yes I do. And my neighbour has had his back door unlocked since he moved in here 13 years ago.

Your point is....?

There was an old biddy lived next door to us, since deceased. My wife used to go round to see how she was and bring her food. The door was always unlatched and I suggested that we have a duplicate key so that she didn't have to leave it open as my wife might be late one time. The old girl said that she only ever locked her front door at night and never her side door. She'd done that since she'd bought the house in the late 60s. No burglaries.

An old biddy lost her purse with her keys in it and was distressed. Me and another police officer took her home only to find the front door unlocked. This in a busy area of Brighton. Inside was her purse, all contents safe. My colleague chided her a little for forgetting to lock her door but she said, 'I never lock it.'

I would not advise this in some of the London suburbs, anymore than I would in American cities.

I don't think I ever found a farmer who locked his/her doors.

[vsonix]

Not being funny but why is leaving your front door open a good thing?

[anonymous-user]

vsonix said:

Not being funny but why is leaving your front door open a good thing?

I suppose it is simply indicative of the crime levels in your area.

If you feel comfortable not having to constantly lock your front door, nail everything down, and not keep your cars locked then by definition you must be living somewhere that burglary or theft is rare.

When I'm at my parents house I never lock the car. It's just something I've carried over from my teenage years when I lived there.

There's something very comforting about knowing that you don't have to keep everything nailed down or locked up to stop it going missing. It just makes life slightly more pleasant.

I know some people who due to their location, literally can't even leave patio furniture outside for fear of it getting pinched within days. I absolutely could not be bothered living like that.

[Sa Calobra]

Crime is relatively 'low' in my area. I can say that as I work the area. However alot of elderly and vulnerable people are targeted. The last owner of our house lost £15k to a scam house alarm company.

[JumboBeef]

NinjaPower said:

vsonix said:

Not being funny but why is leaving your front door open a good thing?

I suppose it is simply indicative of the crime levels in your area.

If you feel comfortable not having to constantly lock your front door, nail everything down, and not keep your cars locked then by definition you must be living somewhere that burglary or theft is rare.

When I'm at my parents house I never lock the car. It's just something I've carried over from my teenage years when I lived there.

There's something very comforting about knowing that you don't have to keep everything nailed down or locked up to stop it going missing. It just makes life slightly more pleasant.

I know some people who due to their location, literally can't even leave patio furniture outside for fear of it getting pinched within days. I absolutely could not be bothered living like that.

Exactly.

It is nice to be in and out, leave the car out with the roof down, leave the garage open and not worry about it. Where I am is a small new build of 11 properties in a very rural location. In the 13 years they have been here, there hasn't been a single crime in this area.

[vsonix]

JumboBeef said:

NinjaPower said:

vsonix said:

Not being funny but why is leaving your front door open a good thing?

I suppose it is simply indicative of the crime levels in your area.

If you feel comfortable not having to constantly lock your front door, nail everything down, and not keep your cars locked then by definition you must be living somewhere that burglary or theft is rare.

When I'm at my parents house I never lock the car. It's just something I've carried over from my teenage years when I lived there.

There's something very comforting about knowing that you don't have to keep everything nailed down or locked up to stop it going missing. It just makes life slightly more pleasant.

I know some people who due to their location, literally can't even leave patio furniture outside for fear of it getting pinched within days. I absolutely could not be bothered living like that.

Exactly.

It is nice to be in and out, leave the car out with the roof down, leave the garage open and not worry about it. Where I am is a small new build of 11 properties in a very rural location. In the 13 years they have been here, there hasn't been a single crime in this area.

I see it as tempting people who might not otherwise have bothered attempting to steal. Door to a house full of valuable easily sold possessions open? £50k convertible left with roof down and expensive designer sunglasses perched tantalisingly on the dash? Even if you live in an area that does have super-low crime, that doesn't stop the odd light-fingered out-of-towner popping through the area. Then on the day that said tea-leaf does come through the village and runs off with your favourite items and you report it stolen, the first thing the police and insurers will ask was 'how was it secured?'

[JumboBeef]

vsonix said:

JumboBeef said:

NinjaPower said:

vsonix said:

Not being funny but why is leaving your front door open a good thing?

I suppose it is simply indicative of the crime levels in your area.

If you feel comfortable not having to constantly lock your front door, nail everything down, and not keep your cars locked then by definition you must be living somewhere that burglary or theft is rare.

When I'm at my parents house I never lock the car. It's just something I've carried over from my teenage years when I lived there.

There's something very comforting about knowing that you don't have to keep everything nailed down or locked up to stop it going missing. It just makes life slightly more pleasant.

I know some people who due to their location, literally can't even leave patio furniture outside for fear of it getting pinched within days. I absolutely could not be bothered living like that.

Exactly.

It is nice to be in and out, leave the car out with the roof down, leave the garage open and not worry about it. Where I am is a small new build of 11 properties in a very rural location. In the 13 years they have been here, there hasn't been a single crime in this area.

I see it as tempting people who might not otherwise have bothered attempting to steal. Door to a house full of valuable easily sold possessions open? £50k convertible left with roof down and expensive designer sunglasses perched tantalisingly on the dash? Even if you live in an area that does have super-low crime, that doesn't stop the odd light-fingered out-of-towner popping through the area. Then on the day that said tea-leaf does come through the village and runs off with your favourite items and you report it stolen, the first thing the police and insurers will ask was 'how was it secured?'

You can't 'pop through this area'. There are many areas, mostly rural, where the crime level is very low/zero.

[carinaman]

A programme just started on BBC Radio 4 (16.30 BST) has mentioned they're covering what US police Body Worn Video footage shows how police officers treat people of different ethnicity differently.

Currently some chap on there talking about Grenfell Tower insulation and the 'stay put' instruction to residents in the event of a fire.

[carinaman]

Radio 4 hyped that up. It was in the last 5 minutes and was a crackly line phone call to an Academic at Stanford that had 7 years of Body Worn Video from police in Oakland and mentioned differences in the amount of respect used when dealing with the public.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08tbf4v