Driving License records to go online
Discussion
LoonR1 said:
Dr Jekyll said:
LoonR1 said:
Dr Jekyll said:
I know perfectly well why insurance companies want this information. The question I am asking is whether on line access includes convictions which do not currently have to be disclosed. It isn't a question about insurance companies it's a question about rehabilitation periods.
We'll feel free to share then, as you clearly have an insight into this. Explain why we do.
And no we won't get information that we're not supposed to have and we won't ask for it either.
Dr Jekyll said:
They want it because on their experience it helps them calculate risk.
There's a bit more to it than that but fair enough. I took it from your original post that you knew why we wanted spent and long gone convictions, even under today's rules, which we don't as we have no modelling capability on that, nor are we that granular on our pricing. LoonR1 said:
Whilst everyone bangs on about insurance why aren't you more focuses don't hints like the automatic 3 year ban if caught within 10 years again when the conviction is spent in 5 years. Surely that's more unlawful.
It's not unlawful because criminal proceedings are not subject to the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act - see section 7 (2) (b). However insurance companies have no exemption. At least not yet. I'd have thought that they'd be lobbying for an exemption when the new rehabilitation periods comes into force, and giving them one would probably be a good idea for the reasons you point out (I don't much fancy paying the same for my insurance as someone who's just finished a drink driving ban), but without an exemption they'll be acting unlawfully if they charge drivers with spent convictions more than those with no convictions.Aretnap said:
LoonR1 said:
Whilst everyone bangs on about insurance why aren't you more focuses don't hints like the automatic 3 year ban if caught within 10 years again when the conviction is spent in 5 years. Surely that's more unlawful.
It's not unlawful because criminal proceedings are not subject to the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act - see section 7 (2) (b).Streaky
I haven't seen any threads on it, but this has gone live:
https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence
I think that's cool. A much better explanation of what exactly I can drive than trying to decipher the card/paperwork.
https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence
I think that's cool. A much better explanation of what exactly I can drive than trying to decipher the card/paperwork.
Breadvan72 said:
The off button for autocorrect is marked "off". HTH!
like it BV. BUT, how many rely on their spell chequer( deliberate typo) to correct ,without checking that the language is set to ENGLISH -UK, NOT English anywhere else, and the language settings on their PC/Tablet/ etc are set to same. There's about 16 English settings. -From Australian to Zimbabwean.Possibly both countries spell words in asimilar fashion to us, but it's like dialects in the UK. Possible the best example is a bread roll with bacon. Travel from Stafford to outside Warwick and the name changes many times in forty miles. trashbat said:
I haven't seen any threads on it, but this has gone live:
https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence
I think that's cool. A much better explanation of what exactly I can drive than trying to decipher the card/paperwork.
I've just checked that and it explains what I'm entitled to drive clearly. It also shows endorsements including details such as the offence, expiry, and removal dates as well as the applicable court.https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence
I think that's cool. A much better explanation of what exactly I can drive than trying to decipher the card/paperwork.
I'm assuming this is similar to what the insurers will have access to on CUE?
I'm sure they'll wave the beta test flag as the reason, but mine is not correct!
Although the UK now applies the derogation under the third European Driving Licence directive relating to driving trikes, the licence still needs to show group A with the note 79 on all car licences where the test was take before 19th January 2013. Otherwise, the licence may not be valid for this type of vehicle in other European states. If you have a full bike licence, no problem.
I've left them a valid email address, so we'll see if there is any comeback.
Although the UK now applies the derogation under the third European Driving Licence directive relating to driving trikes, the licence still needs to show group A with the note 79 on all car licences where the test was take before 19th January 2013. Otherwise, the licence may not be valid for this type of vehicle in other European states. If you have a full bike licence, no problem.
I've left them a valid email address, so we'll see if there is any comeback.
Slidingpillar said:
Yup - I've heard they use both the number and its meaning. Was that the online test, or was it your actual licence renewed after 19 January 2013?
That's the website. There's no 79 number, although there is one for '01 Eyesight Correction'. I haven't properly renewed it - only passed in 2010 - but I have moved house.Slidingpillar said:
Yup - I've heard they use both the number and its meaning. Was that the online test, or was it your actual licence renewed after 19 January 2013?
I moved recently and my licence came back with some extra categories:AM - valid from this month
A - valid from Jan 2013 note 79(tri)
Q - valid from this month
Provisional A - valid from this month
AM - You can drive 2-wheel vehicles or 3-wheel vehicles with a maximum design speed of over 25km/h and not more than 45km/h. Light quadricycles with an unladen mass of not more than 350kg, not including the mass of the batteries in the case of electric vehicles, whose maximum speed is over 25km/h and not more than 45km/h
A - You can drive a motorcycle of a power exceeding 35kW or with a power to weight ratio exceeding 0.2kW per kg, or A motorcycle of a power not exceeding 35kW with a power to weight ratio not exceeding 0.2kW per kg and derived from a vehicle of more than double its power. A motor tricycle with a power exceeding 15kW
Q - You can drive motor vehicles with fewer than 4 wheels which, if propelled by an internal combustion engine, has a cylinder capacity not exceeding 50cc and, if not equipped with pedals by means of which the vehicle is capable of being propelled, has a maximum design speed not exceeding 25km/h
Provisional A - You can drive a motorcycle of a power exceeding 35kW or with a power to weight ratio exceeding 0.2kW per kg, or A motorcycle of a power not exceeding 35kW with a power to weight ratio not exceeding 0.2kW per kg and derived from a vehicle of more than double its power. A motor tricycle with a power exceeding 15kW
Cool, I've found out that I can drive a couple of things that I didn't know I could.. 12 tonne of coach and trailer (with only 16 seats), I'm going to buy a bus 
I've got category A as a provisional 'You can drive any size motorbike, with or without a sidecar'.. So if I do my CBT I can ride a proper 1000cc bike as long as I have L plates on and stay off of motorways?
Just found out that 'You have 0 current penalty points'
Thought that I still had 6, I'm having a beer to celebrate that one
I've got category A as a provisional 'You can drive any size motorbike, with or without a sidecar'.. So if I do my CBT I can ride a proper 1000cc bike as long as I have L plates on and stay off of motorways?
Just found out that 'You have 0 current penalty points'
Thought that I still had 6, I'm having a beer to celebrate that one
Edited by s p a c e m a n on Saturday 28th June 21:05
I've always had the entitlement to ride a moped ( or as called in my early childhood, when fitted with pedals ,an AUTOCYCLE). I never took up the option as where I lived ,it meant being enclosed in a sweat suite to stay dry from rain, but wet from sweat . But then I believe there's a legal requirement to complete ( IMHO a good safe reason ) a proficiency test. And for good reason . I could possibly legally drive/ride a Quad bike. but I know that the controls are more suited to a biker than a car driver. just as the Robin Reliant controls were more suited to a car driver than a biker.
But IMHO, putting a Moped entitlement on to my car licence ( other than as a provisional ) is as stupid as giving a biker with full motorbike capacity the option to drive a Robin. the only option for me to ride a Moped would be if it was an auto ,and as seen on a lot of Police programs, there's roads ,where i as an experienced driver would not attempt to travel, but where some L plate Moped blokes ,limited to 30 , go causing dangers to all .
But IMHO, putting a Moped entitlement on to my car licence ( other than as a provisional ) is as stupid as giving a biker with full motorbike capacity the option to drive a Robin. the only option for me to ride a Moped would be if it was an auto ,and as seen on a lot of Police programs, there's roads ,where i as an experienced driver would not attempt to travel, but where some L plate Moped blokes ,limited to 30 , go causing dangers to all .
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