Police driver suspended for 140mph

Police driver suspended for 140mph

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Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

158 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Mk3Spitfire said:
Rovinghawk said:
Other folks would go to court & be banned for that sort of thing.
Oh look who it is!
Can't play the ball so you're playing the man?

Why isn't this guy going to court for speeding if there's evidence to support it?

"Police can drive like gods" won't cut it, btw.

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Mk3Spitfire said:
Rovinghawk said:
Other folks would go to court & be banned for that sort of thing.
Oh look who it is!
He is right though, and if the police officer did do what is suggested in the story then he is an idiot. Surely the fact that the man is handcuffed in the back is enough to suggest that he hasn't 'got your back'?

Edited by GC8 on Friday 24th January 13:15

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

128 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Rovinghawk said:
Can't play the ball so you're playing the man?

Why isn't this guy going to court for speeding if there's evidence to support it?

"Police can drive like gods" won't cut it, btw.
I was merely referring to the fact that you have no association with the police, are not looking for advice, but continually scour SP&L in the hope of having a dig. I just find you pathetic to the point of comedy.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

249 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Mk3Spitfire said:
Rovinghawk said:
Can't play the ball so you're playing the man?

Why isn't this guy going to court for speeding if there's evidence to support it?

"Police can drive like gods" won't cut it, btw.
I was merely referring to the fact that you have no association with the police, are not looking for advice, but continually scour SP&L in the hope of having a dig. I just find you pathetic to the point of comedy.
Notwithstanding, he does have a point.

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

158 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Mk3Spitfire said:
I was merely referring to the fact that you have no association with the police, are not looking for advice, but continually scour SP&L in the hope of having a dig. I just find you pathetic to the point of comedy.
How is pointing out what would happen to others driving at 140mph a dig? It's a statement of fact.

Are you defending the clown or do you agree that he should be in court for his actions, (assuming suitable evidence)?

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

128 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Rovinghawk said:
How is pointing out what would happen to others driving at 140mph a dig? It's a statement of fact.

Are you defending the clown or do you agree that he should be in court for his actions, (assuming suitable evidence)?
I reserve my opinion until the facts have been proved. I didn't comment on your opinion, I was just pointing out the fact that you rarely contribute anything of any use or relevance.

carinaman

21,291 posts

172 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Mk3Spitfire said:
I was merely referring to the fact that you have no association with the police, are not looking for advice, but continually scour SP&L in the hope of having a dig. I just find you pathetic to the point of comedy.
I think police training does implore officers, civilians and volunteers not to misbehave as the press like to have a field day, overegg and misquote stuff for sensationalist copy? But then again the police have never been known to misquote, mis-speak, overegg and lose evidence have they?

If the officer hadn't done it, the press wouldn't have got wind of it and we'd not be discussing it here.

I think Professional Standards training does also say that the police have to be above reproach. It's not just bad press fallout is it? It also relates to credibility and the ability to be involved in administering justice and appearing in court.

'If you can't do the time.......

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

158 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Mk3Spitfire said:
you rarely contribute anything of any use or relevance.
Here's something of relevance:
Most people doing 140mph go to court for speeding.
There appears to be sufficient evidence for this guy to be suspended & required to do reassessment.
Nothing has been said about possible court proceedings.
Why not?

Citizen09

882 posts

171 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Rovinghawk said:
Nothing has been said about possible court proceedings.
Why not?
There's nothing in the reports to indicate why, or why not.

Make up your own reason.

Terzo123

4,311 posts

208 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Rovinghawk said:
Here's something of relevance:
Most people doing 140mph go to court for speeding.
There appears to be sufficient evidence for this guy to be suspended & required to do reassessment.
Nothing has been said about possible court proceedings.
Why not?
People caught doing 140MPH generally do go to court if there is sufficient evidence.

Where is this sufficient evidence you talk about and where does it say he was suspended?

The articles mention neither, yet you troll as usual.

As i said earlier in this thread, if he did do it, he's a silly billy.

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

128 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Nothing's been said about court because all the evidence has not yet been collated. We don't know how reliable the informant is. If he is guilty of course he should have to answer to his actions.

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

158 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Terzo123 said:
Where is this sufficient evidence you talk about and where does it say he was suspended?.
here: http://www.darlingtonandstocktontimes.co.uk/news/1...
Superintendent Darren Ellis, head of professional standards and legal services at Durham Constabulary, said the force had taken the allegation “very seriously”.

He added: “We are aware of this complaint, which concerns an allegation of a marked police vehicle being driven at an excess, and inappropriate, speed whilst transporting a prisoner back from Leeds into our force"

“The PC in question has been moved permanently from roads policing duties, has been handed a formal sanction under the police misconduct procedures and is subject to an action plan concerning risk management and decision making.”

I beg your pardon- it was his licence that was suspended




Edited by Rovinghawk on Friday 24th January 13:54

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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This thread shouldn't be happening.

The fundamental point here is that it was safe to do 140mph and doing so should not be illegal.

As was the case when I passed my test.

ikarl

3,730 posts

199 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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MondeoBiB said:
Other folks aren't trained to the high standard traffic police are..
such a high standard that (claimed) 140mph is acceptable with a handcuffed civilian in the back seat?

ikarl

3,730 posts

199 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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mybrainhurts said:
This thread shouldn't be happening.

The fundamental point here is that it was safe to do 140mph and doing so should not be illegal.

As was the case when I passed my test.
hahaha, nice try clap

ikarl

3,730 posts

199 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Mk3Spitfire said:
Rovinghawk said:
How is pointing out what would happen to others driving at 140mph a dig? It's a statement of fact.

Are you defending the clown or do you agree that he should be in court for his actions, (assuming suitable evidence)?
I reserve my opinion until the facts have been proved. I didn't comment on your opinion, I was just pointing out the fact that you rarely contribute anything of any use or relevance.
ironically, by commenting on Rovinghawk posting you are not contributing anything of any use or relevance!

carinaman

21,291 posts

172 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Perhaps the car needed a DPF regen so there was an operational need for such a cobweb clearing run?

blade7

11,311 posts

216 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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MondeoBiB said:
Other folks aren't trained to the high standard traffic police are..
Perhaps they should be in the WRC...

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

158 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Mk3Spitfire said:
I reserve my opinion until the facts have been proved.
My understanding of the process is that as he has been disciplined, the facts have been proved. I await your opinion.

Devil2575

13,400 posts

188 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Rovinghawk said:
MondeoBiB said:
Bearing in mind the majority of police vehicles are fitted with 'black boxes' if this is found to be true then the PC in question has been extremely naive.
In my opinion, he/she wouldn't have been withdrawn from driving based on the prisoner's allegation only and a download from the car's onboard computer would have been done. This is strengthened by the fact they've said he'll be sent back to driving school for an assessment.
Other folks would go to court & be banned for that sort of thing.
Would they?

If the Police driver had been caught in a speed trap then he would go through the same process as your or I.

http://metro.co.uk/2007/12/05/drive-ban-for-speedi...

However if our employer caught us speeding then the sanctions would not involve the criminal process. If a company car driver is caught speeding by a datalogger then the company would be unlikely to report it to the authorities.

Seems fair enough to me.