Another p#ssed system player ?

[XCP]

jesta1865 said:

sorry to ask this slightly off topic, but are there medicines that can give a false reading, i just seem to remember someone using cough mixture or mouth wash and it saying they were over the limit when they hadn't had a drink.

i only ask as my wife and i were talking about it last night, i was going to post a new thread, but as there are BiB on this one then I thought i'd ask, thanks.

The new generation breath testing machines would not give a false reading with mouthwash/cough mixture. In any case the subject is asked specifically whether they have taken anything prior to the test. If there is any doubt, blood is taken.

[Zod]

Snowboy said:

It'll be the lawyers making up the silly stories - not the drunk toff.

You do have a choice as to whether to allow your lawyers to run a defence, you know. It was the drunk (allegedly, of course) toff who refused to give a breath sample at the side of the road.

[XCP]

La Liga said:

The case law on drink-driving is comical. Just about everything has been tried. A top defence lawyer can have a fair go at introducing reasonable doubt even if everything is done perfectly. It sound like some real bullst questions were asked like what frequency adjacent police radios were on etc.

I don't understand how it's not clear cut whether or not he had his phone on him or not. Surely that would be on camera?

It would also be on the custody record. This defence sounds like desperate stuff to me.

[jesta1865]

XCP said:

jesta1865 said:

sorry to ask this slightly off topic, but are there medicines that can give a false reading, i just seem to remember someone using cough mixture or mouth wash and it saying they were over the limit when they hadn't had a drink.

i only ask as my wife and i were talking about it last night, i was going to post a new thread, but as there are BiB on this one then I thought i'd ask, thanks.

The new generation breath testing machines would not give a false reading with mouthwash/cough mixture. In any case the subject is asked specifically whether they have taken anything prior to the test. If there is any doubt, blood is taken.

ah ok, i was sure the copper asked a lad on the telly last night if he'd had a drink that night not if he'd taken anything, but it wouldn't matter if they don't get fooled.

did the old ones get fooled as i was sure i'd seen the same thing as my wife, but it must have been a while ago, long before i met her?

[Andyr86]

Hopefully they throw the book at him for trying on such a ridiculous excuse. If this case was successful would it not set a precedent and allow previous drink driving convictions to bee questioned on the basis that mobile phones / radios interfered with the breathlyiser?

Also why are they also getting him for failing a roadside test?

[agtlaw]

Adjourned to May 30?

[agtlaw]

Found guilty, what a surprise!

Previously banned for drink driving and also for driving at 129 mph. Found guilty after trial on the speeding matter

Edited by agtlaw on Friday 25th July 13:29

[Red 4]

agtlaw said:

Found guilty, what a surprise!

Previously banned for drink driving and also for driving at 129 mph. Found guilty after trial on the speeding matter

Any idea what the sentence was, bearing in mind his previous ?

I'm sure he'll be able to afford a chauffeur at any rate ... or stand by for an appeal ?

[Red Devil]

Red 4 said:

Any idea what the sentence was, bearing in mind his previous ?

Guy Pelly was barred from driving for two and a half years and ordered to pay £7,120 in costs and fines after being found to be over the limit when he was pulled over while at the wheel of his Audi R8 GT V10 Coupe in London's Knightsbridge, in the early hours during May last year.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-ord...

[agtlaw]

Red 4 said:

Any idea what the sentence was, bearing in mind his previous ?

I'm sure he'll be able to afford a chauffeur at any rate ... or stand by for an appeal ?

2014 Ban 30 months - drink driving. Fined £2,000.
2012 Ban 56 days - speeding. Fined £750
2001 Ban 24 months - drink driving.

Good news that the CPS costs of £5k are being paid by Pelly. His defence costs very likely exceed that.

[agtlaw]

Red Devil said:

Guy Pelly was barred from driving for two and a half years and ordered to pay £7,120 in costs and fines a

Fine £2,000. Pros costs £5,000. Victim surcharge £120.

[Red 4]

Red Devil said:

Red 4 said:

Any idea what the sentence was, bearing in mind his previous ?

Guy Pelly was barred from driving for two and a half years and ordered to pay £7,120 in costs and fines after being found to be over the limit when he was pulled over while at the wheel of his Audi R8 GT V10 Coupe in London's Knightsbridge, in the early hours during May last year.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-ord...

Thanks for that

That's a big sum for the ordinary man in the street, no doubt less so for Mr Pelly.

Here's hoping the two and a half year disqualification teaches him something.

[Red 4]

agtlaw said:

Red 4 said:

Any idea what the sentence was, bearing in mind his previous ?

I'm sure he'll be able to afford a chauffeur at any rate ... or stand by for an appeal ?

2014 Ban 30 months - drink driving. Fined £2,000.
2012 Ban 56 days - speeding. Fined £750
2001 Ban 24 months - drink driving.

Good news that the CPS costs of £5k are being paid by Pelly. His defence costs very likely exceed that.

Thanks.

In 2001 he (reportedly) provided a specimen "in the nineties" per 100 ml of breath.

Tit. That is all.

[agtlaw]

hora said:

He refused to give a sample.


Am I missing something here? He needs to have a word with himself. His brief is making money out of him when he should have just pleaded guilty. Unless its blind arrogance?


I've answered my own question haven't I?

Initially he refused but then he gave a breath specimen 52μg/100ml.

He must have been advised that his defence was wafer thin. Perhaps he hoped that something would arise in the course of the trial? It might also have been more convenient for him to postpone the ban as long as possible (he got married quite recently?) but of course that doesn't explain why he didn't change his plea at a late stage.

[sugerbear]

Red 4 said:

Red Devil said:

Red 4 said:

Any idea what the sentence was, bearing in mind his previous ?

Guy Pelly was barred from driving for two and a half years and ordered to pay £7,120 in costs and fines after being found to be over the limit when he was pulled over while at the wheel of his Audi R8 GT V10 Coupe in London's Knightsbridge, in the early hours during May last year.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-ord...

Thanks for that

That's a big sum for the ordinary man in the street, no doubt less so for Mr Pelly.

Here's hoping the two and a half year disqualification teaches him something.

To get his chauffeur to drive instead?

[daveky]

sugerbear said:

To get his chauffeur to drive instead?

His family's money will pay for his driver just as it has paid for everything else in his life including the nightclub.