Another p#ssed system player ?

Another p#ssed system player ?

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anonymous-user

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54 months

Tuesday 25th February 2014
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Don't think it's up yet but

'Friend of Prince William claims police breathalyser which found him over drink drive limit is wrong because his mobile signal interfered with the reading'
http://dailym.ai/MXZLn0

Just out of interest how far do people generally go to bend the truth or get off with stuff ?

Rather than just hold their hands up and admit to being over ?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Tuesday 25th February 2014
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The case law on drink-driving is comical. Just about everything has been tried. A top defence lawyer can have a fair go at introducing reasonable doubt even if everything is done perfectly. It sound like some real bullst questions were asked like what frequency adjacent police radios were on etc.

I don't understand how it's not clear cut whether or not he had his phone on him or not. Surely that would be on camera?


Andehh

7,108 posts

206 months

Tuesday 25th February 2014
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So was it a R8 or a TT, the daily mail can't decide.... fking useless rag.

agtlaw

6,702 posts

206 months

Tuesday 25th February 2014
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La Liga said:
a fair go at introducing reasonable doubt
Probably a misunderstanding of the very strict procedural requirements pertaining to drink driving.

I don't think much of his mobile phone interference defence - there must be more to it than reported.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Tuesday 25th February 2014
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agtlaw said:
There must be more to it than reported.
Like what
Namedropping and implied threats ?

Hopefully if the person concerned is honourable they wouldn't use those sorts of things to try to 'influence' an outcome would they?

Maybe I'm just cynical nowadays and not very politically astute when I see and have heard 1st hand some of the things that go on.

s3fella

10,524 posts

187 months

Tuesday 25th February 2014
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Sounds like a twit.

agtlaw

6,702 posts

206 months

Tuesday 25th February 2014
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speedyguy said:
Like what?
Like the police 'messed up' the procedure. There is a lot of case law on this. Nothing to do with reasonable doubt. Radio or mobile phone interference is a piss poor defence. Must be something else.

0a

23,900 posts

194 months

Tuesday 25th February 2014
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Andehh said:
So was it a R8 or a TT, the daily mail can't decide.... fking useless rag.
To be fair they look pretty similar, maybe it was one of those TTs with the fake sideblades that seem pretty common. ( smile )

Drek

609 posts

165 months

Tuesday 25th February 2014
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Andehh said:
So was it a R8 or a TT, the daily mail can't decide.... fking useless rag.
You obviously didn't read the article properly. They also said he was in an Audio R8. Shame on you for missing that.

Snowboy

8,028 posts

151 months

Tuesday 25th February 2014
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It'll be the lawyers making up the silly stories - not the drunk toff.

ferrariF50lover

1,834 posts

226 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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Snowboy said:
It'll be the lawyers making up the silly stories - not the drunk toff.
Lawyers act on instruction, they don't tell the client what happened, the client tells them, then they apply that story to the law. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Simon.

tbc

3,017 posts

175 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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He'll get off altogether or else they'll give him a hefty fine.

The hefty fine will be the equivalent to one less Pimms at the Henley Regatta.

Everyone know if your a hooray Henry you just get poked with the tip.

If your Joe Public you get the full shaft and balls treatment


Cliftonite

8,406 posts

138 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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Is refusing to take a breath test at the roadside not an offence in itself? Or does taking a test later on an 'evidential machine' at the police station excuse you from that?


9mm

3,128 posts

210 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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Cliftonite said:
Is refusing to take a breath test at the roadside not an offence in itself? Or does taking a test later on an 'evidential machine' at the police station excuse you from that?
I always thought it was an offence to refuse the roadside test and that it carries similar penalties to proven dd.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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ferrariF50lover said:
Snowboy said:
It'll be the lawyers making up the silly stories - not the drunk toff.
Lawyers act on instruction, they don't tell the client what happened, the client tells them, then they apply that story to the law. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Simon.
I didn't want to say that Snowboy.

Maybe the lawyer 'advises' the client on what to say before being instructed rather than after, perish the thought.

TBC may have a point but it may not have been picked up by the press or have no interest if it was Joe public.

Zoobeef

6,004 posts

158 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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What's an Audio R8?

Drek

609 posts

165 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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Zoobeef said:
What's an Audio R8?
Ask the Daily Mail.

Cat

3,019 posts

269 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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9mm said:
Cliftonite said:
Is refusing to take a breath test at the roadside not an offence in itself? Or does taking a test later on an 'evidential machine' at the police station excuse you from that?
I always thought it was an offence to refuse the roadside test and that it carries similar penalties to proven dd.
Refusing a preliminary (roadside) breath test, without reasonable excuse, is an offence. The penalty for refusing a preliminary test is a fine of up to £1000 and 4 points/discretionary ban. This is lower than for refusing an evidential test at the station which carries the same potential penalties as providing a positive specimen.

Cat

jesta1865

3,448 posts

209 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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sorry to ask this slightly off topic, but are there medicines that can give a false reading, i just seem to remember someone using cough mixture or mouth wash and it saying they were over the limit when they hadn't had a drink.

i only ask as my wife and i were talking about it last night, i was going to post a new thread, but as there are BiB on this one then I thought i'd ask, thanks.

MGJohn

10,203 posts

183 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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If the Toff gets off it will be further proof positive that British Legal system and Justice is the best money can buy.

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