Getting out of the BiB's way etiquette.
Discussion
jbsportstech said:
Honestly yes send a copper make out a crime ref but public enquiries,
I once sat in a traffic jam and a traffic car passes me and I am tired and bring my hand up to my face. Anyway traffic car turns around lights up the engine wheels lights siren the lots and hot foots it's back through the Village wrong the side of the road causing bedlam.
Car disappears and I am left thinking what the hell.
Anyway get out the village and the police car pops out of lay-by and shoots up my tail. Driving a brand new ford demo focus about 11 years ago. Stops me and states that they were aware of an individual attempting to hide their identity back in the village with their hand on their face.
One guy keep saying I know us are you known to the police, I say know but I sold you and yr wife a new Mondeo a few months back I work at Taunton ford hence the car.
Light bulb. Let's me go
Sounds like a right penis, I'd have gone for a BMW 3 series instead.I once sat in a traffic jam and a traffic car passes me and I am tired and bring my hand up to my face. Anyway traffic car turns around lights up the engine wheels lights siren the lots and hot foots it's back through the Village wrong the side of the road causing bedlam.
Car disappears and I am left thinking what the hell.
Anyway get out the village and the police car pops out of lay-by and shoots up my tail. Driving a brand new ford demo focus about 11 years ago. Stops me and states that they were aware of an individual attempting to hide their identity back in the village with their hand on their face.
One guy keep saying I know us are you known to the police, I say know but I sold you and yr wife a new Mondeo a few months back I work at Taunton ford hence the car.
Light bulb. Let's me go
Greendubber said:
Stick it on the forces social media and ask the press to stick it in the local rag.....cost zero.
Which in reality is probably what they did. "On-going enquiries for a month" means it's probably been a month since it happened, and the crime hasn't been officially closed yet.RichB said:
Perhaps if it were your dad in the ambulance with a heart attack you'd think differently or maybe not? 
It's simply the correct thing to do, as other posters have already said. You are meant to get out of their way if you can, provided you don't break any laws - it's that simple. They're the drivers who are trained to be able to break laws without too much risk, not us. Even if I didn't care about that, because of my age, if I got a TS10, I'd get a massive insurance increase for the next four years and probably wouldn't be able to insure my cars. As I said earlier, a friend of mine drives ambulances and that was the advice he gave me, so I'm sticking by it.
Mk3Spitfire said:
RichB said:
Perhaps if it were your dad in the ambulance with a heart attack you'd think differently or maybe not?
I made that point with jbsports and apparently, no, he would still sit nicely at the lights. If you're right that motorists should jump red lights for emergency vehicles then why doesn't the police advice say "Only pass through red traffic lights if you're sure it's safe to do so" like it does for mounting a kerb rather than "You must not go through a red light"?
If you don't like the policy or the law it's for you to lobby to change them not to go around spreading bad advice.
The problem with wanting people to go through the red light is that you are potentially creating a very dangerous situation.
You are effectively forcing vehicles into into an area where other vehicles passing through are not expecting it.
It's potentially OK for a lit up emergency vehicle to enter this area but to have unmarked/no lights/no siren public vehicles to do this, even if it is inching, is just not acceptable in my opinion. Other drivers are not prepared for it.
You have no control over how far they will enter the junction, where they will position their car etc...The safest place for them is to remain behind the stop line.
It's no good playing the emotional card and saying how would you feel if it was your dad as if you cause a pile up in the junction you are going to be in serious trouble and you ain't going to get to where you want to go and potentially someone else is going to suffer from your non attendance.
You are effectively forcing vehicles into into an area where other vehicles passing through are not expecting it.
It's potentially OK for a lit up emergency vehicle to enter this area but to have unmarked/no lights/no siren public vehicles to do this, even if it is inching, is just not acceptable in my opinion. Other drivers are not prepared for it.
You have no control over how far they will enter the junction, where they will position their car etc...The safest place for them is to remain behind the stop line.
It's no good playing the emotional card and saying how would you feel if it was your dad as if you cause a pile up in the junction you are going to be in serious trouble and you ain't going to get to where you want to go and potentially someone else is going to suffer from your non attendance.
lol omg wtf said:
Is there not a Good Samaritan law that is supose to protect you from prosecution? If you believe you are helping somone in need? Basically if a ambulance is going somwere, somone must be In need right?
If so it should be a law. What in fact the Police say is "Above all, remember that you are responsible for your own actions on the road, regardless of the presence of an emergency vehicle, so you should move out of the way when it is safe and appropriate for you to do so without contravening road laws, or endangering yourself or anyone else in the area."That's clear enough.
Similar to the poster with the Z06, I had an ambulance come up behind me on a very narrow, twisty road. There was no way he was going to get past without driving into a wall/hedge or me. I know the road quite well so just pressed on a bit while he followed. Waved them past and slowed then when the road opened up. Then got stuck behind this ambulance again 
Someone said later that it probably helped them, as it's almost always easier to follow someone down a twisty road than it is to lead.
As for red lights, if there was no other physical way the BiB could get past, I would move forward if it were safe and there were no cameras. If there were cameras...it'd depend on the circumstances at the time.
Someone said later that it probably helped them, as it's almost always easier to follow someone down a twisty road than it is to lead.
As for red lights, if there was no other physical way the BiB could get past, I would move forward if it were safe and there were no cameras. If there were cameras...it'd depend on the circumstances at the time.
Edited by CB2152 on Tuesday 4th March 00:14
rohrl said:
Setting aside the emotional pleading which other laws and police advice do you suggest that the public should ignore?
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That's an interesting question.-snip-
Not so much "ignore", that's the wrong description.
But perhaps something like "make a considered decision to set aside on specific occasions."
The answer;
Crossing red light for emergency vehicles.
Crossing red lights that seem to be broken.
Parking on a red route to help a person who's just collapsed on the pavement.
Confronting a burglar.
Standing up to a mugger.
Also, perhaps;
Speeding when it's safe and fun to do so.
Crossing a road away from a pedestrian crossing.
Drinking excessively and being silly.
Playing loud music after 11pm.
The police will always advise the safest option.
They will always advise you follow the letter of the law and avoid all conflict.
But in reality very few people follow that advice all the time.
Sometimes we need to use our own initiative and sense to make a decision at that moment.
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