Motorway variable speed cameras

[johnzo]

Maybe they just flash to scare innocent passing motorists?

[johnzo]

Maybe they just flash to scare innocent passing motorists?

[Funkycoldribena]

What was that?I didn't quite get it...

[CharlieBangBang]

jbsportstech said:

They aren't used to enforce speed limits over 70mph.

THEY ARE

jbsportstech said:

They are only active in areas like the ones on the m4 when the speed limit is lower and displayed in a red ring on the avriable signs.

NO THEY ARE NOT

[jbsportstech]

CharlieBangBang said:

NO THEY ARE NOT

Well I work with the highways agency and that is what they have told me.


They are on the m4 at least are used to enforce the lower speed limits.

You seem to making a blanket statemen regarding all gantry cameras no matter were they are and I think that the cases differs depending on were they are and who is operating them.

[littleredrooster]

jbsportstech said:

CharlieBangBang said:

NO THEY ARE NOT

Well I work with the highways agency and that is what they have told me.


They are on the m4 at least are used to enforce the lower speed limits.

You seem to making a blanket statemen regarding all gantry cameras no matter were they are and I think that the cases differs depending on were they are and who is operating them.

I think you have both made blanket statements, TBH. There seems to be anecdotal evidence that they are in use in some parts of the country but not others (yet).

I can vouch for the M1 managed section around Nottingham; At quiet periods I have never disrupted my cruise control through there and have not been flashed (yet...). I have, however seen them flash when a lower limit has been set.

And CharlieBangBang - no need to shout.

[jbsportstech]

littleredrooster said:

I think you have both made blanket statements, TBH. There seems to be anecdotal evidence that they are in use in some parts of the country but not others (yet).

I can vouch for the M1 managed section around Nottingham; At quiet periods I have never disrupted my cruise control through there and have not been flashed (yet...). I have, however seen them flash when a lower limit has been set.

And CharlieBangBang - no need to shout.

To clarify my statement relates to the cameras in highways agency area 1/2.

What happens in other areas I can't comment.

The national stratergy is getting sections of motorway that require lower limits at times of pinch point/peak flow is to have cameras availble to enforce these lower limits rather than flash temporary speed limits on the small martix boards that are unenforable and ignored by many.

[CharlieBangBang]

littleredrooster said:

I think you have both made blanket statements, TBH. There seems to be anecdotal evidence that they are in use in some parts of the country but not others (yet).

I can vouch for the M1 managed section around Nottingham; At quiet periods I have never disrupted my cruise control through there and have not been flashed (yet...). I have, however seen them flash when a lower limit has been set.

And CharlieBangBang - no need to shout.

There is and I did that deliberately but thanks for the observation.

[covboy]

jbsportstech said:

To clarify my statement relates to the cameras in highways agency area 1/2.

What happens in other areas I can't comment.

The national stratergy is getting sections of motorway that require lower limits at times of pinch point/peak flow is to have cameras availble to enforce these lower limits rather than flash temporary speed limits on the small martix boards that are unenforable and ignored by many.

Care to enlighten us as to which areas (1/2) these cover


Purely for reference you see !

[CharlieBangBang]

jbsportstech said:

CharlieBangBang said:

NO THEY ARE NOT

Well I work with the highways agency and that is what they have told me.


They are on the m4 at least are used to enforce the lower speed limits.

You seem to making a blanket statement regarding all gantry cameras no matter were they are and I think that the cases differs depending on were they are and who is operating them.

Ha Ha!
If you are senior enough in the HA then when all those who are prosecuted for exceeding the NSL can be immune from prosecution. Apparently that's what government promises can do for you these days.

As I understand it the HA build and manage roads they do not do enforcement and certainly do not set police enforcement policy. As such readers can make what they wish of HA advice regarding enforcement policy.

[covboy]

CharlieBangBang said:

Ha Ha!
If you are senior enough in the HA then when all those who are prosecuted for exceeding the NSL can be immune from prosecution. Apparently that's what government promises can do for you these days.

As I understand it the HA build and manage roads they do not do enforcement and certainly do not set police enforcement policy. As such readers can make what they wish of HA advice regarding enforcement policy.

Are these devices not HADEC’s (HIGHWAYS AGENCY Digital Enforcement Cameras) ?

[Zod]

The M1 and M62 gantry cameras don't flash when they are not showing a reduced limit. On Sunday night, the M1 cameras in that 25 mile or so section around Luton were flashing away while enforcing 405, 50 and 60 limits.

[CharlieBangBang]

covboy said:

CharlieBangBang said:

Ha Ha!
If you are senior enough in the HA then when all those who are prosecuted for exceeding the NSL can be immune from prosecution. Apparently that's what government promises can do for you these days.

As I understand it the HA build and manage roads they do not do enforcement and certainly do not set police enforcement policy. As such readers can make what they wish of HA advice regarding enforcement policy.

Are these devices not HADEC’s (HIGHWAYS AGENCY Digital Enforcement Cameras) ?

They host them, they don't operate them.

[CharlieBangBang]

Zod said:

The M1 and M62 gantry cameras don't flash when they are not showing a reduced limit. On Sunday night, the M1 cameras in that 25 mile or so section around Luton were flashing away while enforcing 405, 50 and 60 limits.

They do. Perhaps they haven't when you have passed them.

[mygoldfishbowl]

CharlieBangBang said:

Zod said:

The M1 and M62 gantry cameras don't flash when they are not showing a reduced limit. On Sunday night, the M1 cameras in that 25 mile or so section around Luton were flashing away while enforcing 405, 50 and 60 limits.

They do. Perhaps they haven't when you have passed them.

That doesn't make any sense. They either do or they don't. Your posts imply that you know a lot about these gantry cameras but you're not providing any evidence or reason why anyone should be convinced by what you are saying.

Edited by mygoldfishbowl on Friday 7th March 13:49

[covboy]

CharlieBangBang said:

They do. Perhaps they haven't when you have passed them.

You are Pitsmansboots in another guise AICMFP

[jbsportstech]

covboy said:

Care to enlighten us as to which areas (1/2) these cover


Purely for reference you see !

Area 1 covers devon to cornwall excluding the m5.


Area 2 is inc m5 from exeter- bristol/wilsthire etc

[Zod]

CharlieBangBang said:

jbsportstech said:

They aren't used to enforce speed limits over 70mph.

THEY ARE

jbsportstech said:

They are only active in areas like the ones on the m4 when the speed limit is lower and displayed in a red ring on the avriable signs.

NO THEY ARE NOT

Stop shouting. You are wrong. If you were right, many of us would be serving driving bans.

[jbsportstech]

CharlieBangBang said:

Ha Ha!
If you are senior enough in the HA then when all those who are prosecuted for exceeding the NSL can be immune from prosecution. Apparently that's what government promises can do for you these days.

As I understand it the HA build and manage roads they do not do enforcement and certainly do not set police enforcement policy. As such readers can make what they wish of HA advice regarding enforcement policy.

I am not senior in the HA I work for a contractor which manages areas for the ha.


Like I said the ha look to enforce with the local police temporary speed limits within area 2 bristol gantry. That was what I was told by the ha was the stratergy.

What they do outside area 2 I cant be 100% sure, but enforcement of speed limits on motorways has always been as far as I am aware since the formation of HA to enforce reduced limits to protects work force and or to reduce congestion and risk of incident. There has never been speed cameras to proscute people exceeding 70mph that I know of.

[CharlieBangBang]

jbsportstech said:

CharlieBangBang said:

Ha Ha!
If you are senior enough in the HA then when all those who are prosecuted for exceeding the NSL can be immune from prosecution. Apparently that's what government promises can do for you these days.

As I understand it the HA build and manage roads they do not do enforcement and certainly do not set police enforcement policy. As such readers can make what they wish of HA advice regarding enforcement policy.

I am not senior in the HA I work for a contractor which manages areas for the ha.


Like I said the ha look to enforce with the local police temporary speed limits within area 2 bristol gantry. That was what I was told by the ha was the stratergy.

What they do outside area 2 I cant be 100% sure, but enforcement of speed limits on motorways has always been as far as I am aware since the formation of HA to enforce reduced limits to protects work force and or to reduce congestion and risk of incident. There has never been speed cameras to proscute people exceeding 70mph that I know of.

So in other words you are not employed by the HA. The HA do not set any speed enforcement policy for the police and the police don't tend to inform highways contractors what their enforcement policy is either.

Your mate at the HA isn't aware of any police policy for that area and if he thinks he is he is not displaying that.