Speed camera triggered at 31 in 30 zone

Speed camera triggered at 31 in 30 zone

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CharlieBangBang

36 posts

122 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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mygoldfishbowl said:
CharlieBangBang said:
Still no tickets seen below 35 in a 30 and 46 in a 40.

Oh well I wait with interest and great anticipation.
randomman said:
Northamptonshire. Wife attended a SAC for 34 in a 30. Saw ticket with my own eyes. No I'm not posting it up as I haven't a clue where it is anymore.

Although I'm not certain what you are hoping to achieve here.
She didn't and no ticket to show it either.

Who me ?

7,455 posts

211 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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CharlieBangBang said:
Although I'm not certain what you are hoping to achieve here.
She didn't and no ticket to show it either.
He's riding his little trike under the bridge(AKA TROLL), aiming to cause mass confusion on all things speeding, as usual.He's the SCP answer to road safety, A SPEED DRONE. As he says "Although I'm not certain what you are hoping to achieve here", but then he's in two minds what he's going to achieve .

jbsportstech

5,069 posts

178 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Snowboy said:
OK. So, the speedo then.
The fact it's a HUD is irrelevant.
No it's a Ron burgundy thing people who are a little insecure feel the need to drop into these post HUD so you know they have a BMW with heads up, (don't act like your not impressed)

Welcome to the guns show!

Like the poster who dropped SLS into every other sentence.

Glad the poster explained as I thought a HUD was something you got at the gu clinic to stop unwanted pregnancies.

Lol

Edited by jbsportstech on Tuesday 8th April 21:22

GPSHead

657 posts

240 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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ACE997 said:
Thanks for the replies guys.

creampuff said:
Was it a Gatso (large) or digital (small) camera? Did it flash only once?

If it was a Gatso and it flashed once, don't worry about it.
Large Gatso. There was a double flash.
I believe that when a Gatso is out of film, some SCPs will set it to trigger at much lower speeds (potentially anything whatsoever above the speed limit) than when it contains film, and it will still flash twice. I think the "rationale" is to basically scare anyone who is at all over the limit (which might actually make sense if that was a significant safety factor, etc, etc).

I predict that you won't hear anything more.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

176 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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GPSHead said:
I believe that when a Gatso is out of film, some SCPs will set it to trigger at much lower speeds (potentially anything whatsoever above the speed limit) than when it contains film, and it will still flash twice. I think the "rationale" is to basically scare anyone who is at all over the limit (which might actually make sense if that was a significant safety factor, etc, etc).

I predict that you won't hear anything more.
Blimey "film", I remember that from 2003. Does it still exist?

mygoldfishbowl

3,691 posts

142 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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CharlieBangBang said:
mygoldfishbowl said:
CharlieBangBang said:
Still no tickets seen below 35 in a 30 and 46 in a 40.

Oh well I wait with interest and great anticipation.
randomman said:
Northamptonshire. Wife attended a SAC for 34 in a 30. Saw ticket with my own eyes. No I'm not posting it up as I haven't a clue where it is anymore.

Although I'm not certain what you are hoping to achieve here.
She didn't and no ticket to show it either.
So you are saying randomman is lying?

Why should we believe you & not him?

Snowboy

8,028 posts

150 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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mygoldfishbowl said:
So you are saying randomman is lying?

Why should we believe you & not him?
Probably because a the police guidelines and rules etc say that it shouldn't happen.
So he's either
A) lying.
B) a bizarre exception to the laws and rules.


It's like me saying I was once arrested for wearing a hat.

covboy

2,573 posts

173 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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mygoldfishbowl said:
So you are saying randomman is lying?

Why should we believe you & not him?
Not as though CharlieBangBang doesn’t have a past history of being economical with the truth !

GPSHead

657 posts

240 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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LoonR1 said:
GPSHead said:
I believe that when a Gatso is out of film, some SCPs will set it to trigger at much lower speeds (potentially anything whatsoever above the speed limit) than when it contains film, and it will still flash twice. I think the "rationale" is to basically scare anyone who is at all over the limit (which might actually make sense if that was a significant safety factor, etc, etc).

I predict that you won't hear anything more.
Blimey "film", I remember that from 2003. Does it still exist?
Are you saying that all Gatsos are now digital? I would be interested in a link please. This thread from 2009 suggests that the universal changeover you imply happened a lot later than 2003 (if at all), but I know mere numbers are "malleable" for speed camera supporters. smile

LoonR1

26,988 posts

176 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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GPSHead said:
Are you saying that all Gatsos are now digital? I would be interested in a link please. This thread from 2009 suggests that the universal changeover you imply happened a lot later than 2003 (if at all), but I know mere numbers are "malleable" for speed camera supporters. smile
No. I'm smiling at how outdated they are and to an extent happy about that too.

ACE997

Original Poster:

51 posts

160 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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GPSHead said:
I believe that when a Gatso is out of film, some SCPs will set it to trigger at much lower speeds (potentially anything whatsoever above the speed limit) than when it contains film, and it will still flash twice. I think the "rationale" is to basically scare anyone who is at all over the limit (which might actually make sense if that was a significant safety factor, etc, etc).

I predict that you won't hear anything more.
In case anyone searches this thread in future and wonders what the outcome was... 6 weeks have now passed and I haven't heard anything more. I think that the above explanation from GPSHead seems the most likely explanation.

JMDWestley

1,079 posts

223 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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I know its late but I wouldnt worry. With my first car (Citroen Ax 1996 back in 2003ish) one camera use to flash all the time even when doing 25mph.

Davidonly

1,080 posts

192 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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CharlieBangBang said:
10 Pence Short said:
What you suggest is that someone dealt with at 46mph will be offered a SAC, and someone dealt with at 45mph will be given a £100 fine and 3 points.

Have I got that right?
in the very rare event of anyone being dealt with at 45mph in a 40mph limit then that wold be correct yes. It is my understanding that no course will be given outside of 10%+2mph to 10%+9mph in the NDORS system.
i also know that there is no routine speed camera operations below the ACPO guidance as has been claimed many times. so where do these low level offenders come from?
All DS needs to do is to say what county he has knowledge of who issue courses at 44mph in a 40mph limit and I will find out if that is correct.
you and others can keep saying "oh I have heard from a mate who went on a course that one person on the course had a ticket for 33 in a 30 or 44 in a 40...etc" but it is not supported. I have been on 3 SAC and heard the same claims on all courses and I knew before I arrived at the courses that no ticket was issued in those counties at the speeds claimed...so you figure.
I have checked in other counties when claims have been made on the Internet that low speeds were enforced and in no county have those claimed speeds been enforced. I invite DS to be the first to show I am wrong. I might be, I accept that but I doubt it.
Now what county was it DS?
Never dreamed I would back up the Steve C Monster (if indeed that is who CBB is) BUT the above range for SAC is also my understanding. The Upper limit of 10% + 9 mph was needed to enable sufficient customers to be processed under the point where a summons is issued. Once the summons is issued the revenue from scamera ops is diverted to central gov't hence not available to fund the feckers in the vans.

Original SAC limits were tighter but too much cash left the system to allow it to be self funding. In recent years the ever reducing limits are sure to have boosted income further.

Meanwhile all this diverts us from the core point that numerical speed is at best a minor factor is improving actual safety.

SafeSpeedv2

29 posts

195 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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OP if 6wks has past then you can reject any incoming ticket as out of time, unless your vehicle is Company owned, in which case it can take up to 6 months for the notification. There is plenty on here to help you with that legally.

There are some forces operating a 10% +3mph that I know of.
There was an introduction to 10% +9mph but this relates to a '10% and up to +9mph' for course attendance! So that implies that 10% only will see you be sent a ticket, thus adding extra numbers attending their courses, but it can be challenged. This article by the BBC in Jan 2013 states that 37 of the 44 authorities signed up to this criteria. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13022347 and from Welsh Go Safe : http://www.gosafe.org/en/content/cms/education-for...

When people have a ticket within the 10&+2mph it might be from one of these forces... aiming at greater course attendees (!), so if you challenge the ticket (where they perhaps assumed that you will go to the course) then it ought to be thrown out of Court without question immediately. Certainly some verification of the NIP or Ticket is necessary in seeking any attempt to get it revoked.

A police stop can of course issue a ticket for 31 in a 30 etc....



GPSHead

657 posts

240 months

Sunday 25th May 2014
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ACE997 said:
GPSHead said:
I believe that when a Gatso is out of film, some SCPs will set it to trigger at much lower speeds (potentially anything whatsoever above the speed limit) than when it contains film, and it will still flash twice. I think the "rationale" is to basically scare anyone who is at all over the limit (which might actually make sense if that was a significant safety factor, etc, etc).

I predict that you won't hear anything more.
In case anyone searches this thread in future and wonders what the outcome was... 6 weeks have now passed and I haven't heard anything more. I think that the above explanation from GPSHead seems the most likely explanation.
Well I can occasionally be right (to the chagrin of some). smile Thanks for updating us, and (like most here still, although sadly not all) I'm glad you heard nothing further.