Speed camera triggered at 31 in 30 zone

Speed camera triggered at 31 in 30 zone

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ACE997

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51 posts

160 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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I was doing 31 in a 30 zone and to my surprise a speed camera flash was triggered by my car. Has this happened to anyone else or can anyone offer an explanation why the camera was triggered?

I thought that my speedo would slightly overstate my speed
I was definitely doing a constant 31mph according to my head up display
There were no other cars near me to trigger the camera
It is definitely a 30 zone

Could the camera have misread my speed or is 31 enough to trigger the camera? I thought the trigger was at least 35.

Terminator X

14,921 posts

203 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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Wouldn't normally trigger until 35mph, I wouldn't worry about it.

TX.

Cliftonite

8,406 posts

137 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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If you hadn't been looking so intently at your speedo, you would have seen the red traffic light you passed!

That's what the flashes were for!

smile


Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

187 months

Saturday 5th April 2014
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Perhaps you were in a 20 zone ?

I haven't seen a scamera in one, but who knows, I'm sure it'll happen eventually.

bobthebench

398 posts

262 months

Saturday 5th April 2014
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Lowest I have seen in court is 4 mph over limit. Have known cameras with no film set to 1 mph over limit, but no film so really just scare tactics. Probably just that in your case.

munroman

1,825 posts

183 months

Saturday 5th April 2014
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Could it have been a vehicle going the other way, there is a camera near Parkhead in Glasgow which is always being set off by vehicles speeding on the opposite side of the dual carriageway.....

creampuff

6,511 posts

142 months

Saturday 5th April 2014
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Was it a Gatso (large) or digital (small) camera? Did it flash only once?

If it was a Gatso and it flashed once, don't worry about it.

Shurv

955 posts

159 months

Saturday 5th April 2014
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I've recently completed a speed awareness course, the guy next to me was done at 43 in a 40.They stated that the 10%+2 rule does not apply. Human beings may use it, but fixed cameras don't. Will be massively harsh if you hear from them, but expect a SAC if you do.

jbsportstech

5,069 posts

178 months

Saturday 5th April 2014
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Shurv said:
I've recently completed a speed awareness course, the guy next to me was done at 43 in a 40.They stated that the 10%+2 rule does not apply. Human beings may use it, but fixed cameras don't. Will be massively harsh if you hear from them, but expect a SAC if you do.
The rule is a guideline acpo it's not law.

Suppose some look at 43 in a 40 speed must of been reading 47+

Not all forces take this approach I was surprised the Wiltshire own rule are 101 in 70 before they normally issue summons, that seems very reasonable to me.

Cliftonite

8,406 posts

137 months

Saturday 5th April 2014
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jbsportstech said:
The rule is a guideline acpo it's not law.

Suppose some look at 43 in a 40 speed must of been reading 47+

Not all forces take this approach I was surprised the Wiltshire own rule are 101 in 70 before they normally issue summons, that seems very reasonable to me.
101 in a 70 may well be reasonable on a motorway, probably less so on a dual-carriageway with junctions and stuff.



Martin_M

2,071 posts

226 months

Saturday 5th April 2014
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munroman said:
Could it have been a vehicle going the other way, there is a camera near Parkhead in Glasgow which is always being set off by vehicles speeding on the opposite side of the dual carriageway.....
This! Just down from the Celtic Supporter's Club? I set it off going the other way years ago.

CharlieBangBang

36 posts

122 months

Saturday 5th April 2014
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Shurv said:
I've recently completed a speed awareness course, the guy next to me was done at 43 in a 40.They stated that the 10%+2 rule does not apply. Human beings may use it, but fixed cameras don't. Will be massively harsh if you hear from them, but expect a SAC if you do.
The guy next to you may have said that but it was not true. The criteria is strict for getting onto a SAC and the lowest in a 40 is 46, no ifs no buts.
No olive or camera partnerships enforce owed than 46 in a 40 either.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

216 months

Saturday 5th April 2014
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CharlieBangBang said:
The guy next to you may have said that but it was not true. The criteria is strict for getting onto a SAC and the lowest in a 40 is 46, no ifs no buts.
No olive or camera partnerships enforce owed than 46 in a 40 either.
Your predictive tax is flacked.

Pablo68

910 posts

134 months

Saturday 5th April 2014
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CharlieBangBang said:
The guy next to you may have said that but it was not true. The criteria is strict for getting onto a SAC and the lowest in a 40 is 46, no ifs no buts.
No olive or camera partnerships enforce owed than 46 in a 40 either.
Nope...I've tried 4 times and I just can't make a coherent sentence from that

XDA

2,141 posts

184 months

Sunday 6th April 2014
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Pablo68 said:
CharlieBangBang said:
The guy next to you may have said that but it was not true. The criteria is strict for getting onto a SAC and the lowest in a 40 is 46, no ifs no buts.
No olive or camera partnerships enforce owed than 46 in a 40 either.
Nope...I've tried 4 times and I just can't make a coherent sentence from that
Even with Steve's new guise, he still doesn't bother proof reading his posts before posting.

It's like 'pitmansboots' all over again....

anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 6th April 2014
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Are you running on the factory spec wheels and tyres? Your speedo might be out if not.

Derek Smith

45,514 posts

247 months

Sunday 6th April 2014
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CharlieBangBang said:
The guy next to you may have said that but it was not true. The criteria is strict for getting onto a SAC and the lowest in a 40 is 46, no ifs no buts.
No olive or camera partnerships enforce owed than 46 in a 40 either.
I'm not sure that is true. I know of one force at least who push SACs at 10%.

I've been asked for my advice on the matter. The first bloke was flashed at what he thought was 45 'or so' and I said the 10% +2 so both he and I were surprised to find 44mph on the ticket. I've seen two at 44 and one at 45. You seem to be right. The criterion is indeed strict.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

216 months

Sunday 6th April 2014
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ACPO guidance still seems to be no action in speeding until 10% +2. Correspondingly, similar guidance on SACs suggests they should be offered from there up to 10% +9 (although there is discretion to offer it above this).

There is no bar to enforcement below the ACPO limit (subject to accuracy of the device used), so I see no corresponding bar to SACs at those speeds.

Martin_M

2,071 posts

226 months

Sunday 6th April 2014
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When I was in the police we used 10% + 3 before stopping someone. Then, depending on attitude we would decided how to proceed.

ACE997

Original Poster:

51 posts

160 months

Sunday 6th April 2014
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Thanks for the replies guys.

creampuff said:
Was it a Gatso (large) or digital (small) camera? Did it flash only once?

If it was a Gatso and it flashed once, don't worry about it.
Large Gatso. There was a double flash.


munroman said:
Could it have been a vehicle going the other way, there is a camera near Parkhead in Glasgow which is always being set off by vehicles speeding on the opposite side of the dual carriageway.....
No cars were going the other way. This was the second thing I checked (my speed being the first). When going the other way, I have noticed that it triggers only above 35mph. Which makes this case even more mysterious.

charltjr said:
Are you running on the factory spec wheels and tyres? Your speedo might be out if not.
Yes, factory spec. I have thought about this too, the car is only a couple of months old and so the tyre wear is low and tyre circumference is near its largest. I even considered tyre pressure but the onboard tyre pressure monitor says all tyres are normal. I have also checked the calibration of the head up display vs the speedo and they match. I have passed this camera many times at an indicated 29 or 30 mph and it did not trigger. This was the first time I pushed it to 31mph.


Edited by ACE997 on Sunday 6th April 10:37