"No warranty"?
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Another vote for: the car was of satisfactory quality.
If the car hadn't driven off the forecourt at all, it wouldn't have been fit for purpose. It was, and remained so.
It was as far as anyone can tell, as described.
That only leaves 'satisfactory quality.' This car was <10% of the price of a new car, and it is to be expected that even major items may suddenly fail at this price point. While a clutch can be a substantial cost, it's still a wear and tear item. Given that the dealer is prepared to fix for what sounds like the cost of parts, I'd jump at the chance and thank him for his good service.
If the car hadn't driven off the forecourt at all, it wouldn't have been fit for purpose. It was, and remained so.
It was as far as anyone can tell, as described.
That only leaves 'satisfactory quality.' This car was <10% of the price of a new car, and it is to be expected that even major items may suddenly fail at this price point. While a clutch can be a substantial cost, it's still a wear and tear item. Given that the dealer is prepared to fix for what sounds like the cost of parts, I'd jump at the chance and thank him for his good service.
irocfan said:
it is an awkward one TBH - as has been pointed out it's the price of (not even) a decent TV so there are certain (very low) expectations, however (as much as all the powerfully built, goatee'd company directors may disagree) to quite a few people this is an awful lot of money. Yes to a lot of us this is total shed material where if it lasts the year that's a result even bearing this in mind, I've have thought that 3 weeks would be below what is reasonable. The attitude of "what do you expect..." etc is precisely why some section of society feel they can get away with all manner of ste with no obligations/responsibilities
I guess one of the issues (as has also been pointed out!) is this business of 'private/home traders' where there is the (naive) thought might be that you're getting some sort of cover as it's a 'trader' can and does hoodwink some of the more naive amongst us
I don't think this is awkward at all. He's offering to replace the clutch for £110 which is bloody cheap. £750 may be a lot of money to some people but it isn't a lot of money for a car. I guess one of the issues (as has also been pointed out!) is this business of 'private/home traders' where there is the (naive) thought might be that you're getting some sort of cover as it's a 'trader' can and does hoodwink some of the more naive amongst us
Devil2575 said:
irocfan said:
it is an awkward one TBH - as has been pointed out it's the price of (not even) a decent TV so there are certain (very low) expectations, however (as much as all the powerfully built, goatee'd company directors may disagree) to quite a few people this is an awful lot of money. Yes to a lot of us this is total shed material where if it lasts the year that's a result even bearing this in mind, I've have thought that 3 weeks would be below what is reasonable. The attitude of "what do you expect..." etc is precisely why some section of society feel they can get away with all manner of ste with no obligations/responsibilities
I guess one of the issues (as has also been pointed out!) is this business of 'private/home traders' where there is the (naive) thought might be that you're getting some sort of cover as it's a 'trader' can and does hoodwink some of the more naive amongst us
I don't think this is awkward at all. He's offering to replace the clutch for £110 which is bloody cheap. £750 may be a lot of money to some people but it isn't a lot of money for a car. I guess one of the issues (as has also been pointed out!) is this business of 'private/home traders' where there is the (naive) thought might be that you're getting some sort of cover as it's a 'trader' can and does hoodwink some of the more naive amongst us
it's not about simply it being £750
i could be a car which in average condition would sell for closer to half that and it was being sold as a quality low mileage used car
or it could be a car in average condition, sold for around the price you'd expect for it in average condition
2 cars sold for the same price each with very different expectations
to me it sounds like the car was sold with very low expectations
i could be a car which in average condition would sell for closer to half that and it was being sold as a quality low mileage used car
or it could be a car in average condition, sold for around the price you'd expect for it in average condition
2 cars sold for the same price each with very different expectations
to me it sounds like the car was sold with very low expectations
Snowboy said:
There are things that would be 'covered by soga' on a £750 car from a dealers.
But a clutch is a wear and tear item.
Same as brakes, bulbs, tyres, belts etc.
It depends on how the car is described, no?But a clutch is a wear and tear item.
Same as brakes, bulbs, tyres, belts etc.
Price is only one indicator of what will constitute 'satisfacty quality'.
For £750 I don't see why you're making a point about an expired clutch. Considering a small brand new car is 1,000% of that price, I don't see why it's expected that a dealer cover every single consumables at that price point. Let's say you bought a 1998 VW Polo. At that price, I'd be grateful if I got a valet thrown in.
A car's only worth what someone's willing to pay for it. I value my sheddy Corsa at £1500. It's in good condition and mechanically perfect (with low-ish mileage for an 11 year old car). There are similar Corsas for sale at £650, and also at £3000. I would expect the lower-priced cars to come with no warranty and/or need some work done, whereas the more expensive versions to include a warranty or have some evidence of mechanical sound.
A car's only worth what someone's willing to pay for it. I value my sheddy Corsa at £1500. It's in good condition and mechanically perfect (with low-ish mileage for an 11 year old car). There are similar Corsas for sale at £650, and also at £3000. I would expect the lower-priced cars to come with no warranty and/or need some work done, whereas the more expensive versions to include a warranty or have some evidence of mechanical sound.
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