Blue badge, and council parking ticket.

[Stinkfoot]

If the wardens are anything like the ones in Maidstone, then they will ticket everything - lorries unloading in loading bays, disabled badges on display, taxis in taxi ranks etc etc. I am sure they work on the principle of issue all tickets not matter what and if half are appealed then they are happy.

[98elise]

NWTony said:

Eclassy said:

Maybe because the person he is picking up has a blue badge..... No?

I just don't see the need?

It doesn't matter if you do or don't see the need. Its a disabled space, and the person is legitmately using it. A disabled persons difficulties don't disappear when they're a passenger.

[IanA2]

stuartmmcfc said:

Was the badge displayed the wrong way up with the picture on top?

Yup some muppet might issue a ticket for that, think of it as job creation; somebody has to be employed to overturn the ticket on appeal.

[james12345]

Some Councils will only allow a Disabled Registered car to use a Disabled parking bay - I know that Bournemouth is like this. It's well worth taking a look on the local council website to find out exactly who can park in those spaces.

As per my example, we took the MIL to Bournemouth for the day and prior to going (as is the usual case) checked where we could park with her blue badge. The link shows that the car must be registered, so we had to find other places to park:

http://www.bournemouth.gov.uk/StreetsTransport/Par...

[Devil2575]

98elise said:

NWTony said:

Eclassy said:

Maybe because the person he is picking up has a blue badge..... No?

I just don't see the need?

It doesn't matter if you do or don't see the need. Its a disabled space, and the person is legitmately using it. A disabled persons difficulties don't disappear when they're a passenger.

This.

[Red Devil]

james12345 said:

Some Councils will only allow a Disabled Registered car to use a Disabled parking bay - I know that Bournemouth is like this. It's well worth taking a look on the local council website to find out exactly who can park in those spaces.

As per my example, we took the MIL to Bournemouth for the day and prior to going (as is the usual case) checked where we could park with her blue badge. The link shows that the car must be registered, so we had to find other places to park:

http://www.bournemouth.gov.uk/StreetsTransport/Par...

Quite a few LAs have their own specific rules. For example this has long been the case in central London. The Blue Badge scheme: rights and responsibilities in England - https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa... - makes it clear on Page 18 that this is something that people should check before travelling.

[geeks]

james12345 said:

Some Councils will only allow a Disabled Registered car to use a Disabled parking bay - I know that Bournemouth is like this. It's well worth taking a look on the local council website to find out exactly who can park in those spaces.

As per my example, we took the MIL to Bournemouth for the day and prior to going (as is the usual case) checked where we could park with her blue badge. The link shows that the car must be registered, so we had to find other places to park:

http://www.bournemouth.gov.uk/StreetsTransport/Par...

This fks me off massively, we go on holiday with the Caravan, we can't use the wifes registered car to tow it with we have to use mine, when we get there we can't use her badge to park my car for her! Must piss alot of other families off as well...

[spaximus]

IanA2 said:

spaximus said:

The blue badge scheme is the most abused thing there is. Whilst I have sympathy for a blind person, unless they are also physically unable to walk a long distance, why do they need a blue badge?
My FIL has a blue badge, one of his greatest achievements, he passed all the criteria and yet can walk two hours around a car boot sale. It drives me mad when he circle a car park waiting for his bay to be clear.

If your FIL has committed a crime and made false representations in order to obtain a Blue Badge, perhaps, instead of assuming that everyone else is also abusing the scheme, you should take steps to ensure that he does not continue to do so.

No he has committed no crime, he has been properly assessed as he has a heart condition and has had both knees replaced. My point is that on the test he passed as having the need without lying at all. So he is now entitled to park outside shops in designated spaces and against parking restrictions like double yellows if he wants. So if he can walk around for two hours how can the assessment be right?
I have no issue with those who need help.

[IanA2]

spaximus said:

IanA2 said:

spaximus said:

The blue badge scheme is the most abused thing there is. Whilst I have sympathy for a blind person, unless they are also physically unable to walk a long distance, why do they need a blue badge?
My FIL has a blue badge, one of his greatest achievements, he passed all the criteria and yet can walk two hours around a car boot sale. It drives me mad when he circle a car park waiting for his bay to be clear.

If your FIL has committed a crime and made false representations in order to obtain a Blue Badge, perhaps, instead of assuming that everyone else is also abusing the scheme, you should take steps to ensure that he does not continue to do so.

No he has committed no crime, he has been properly assessed as he has a heart condition and has had both knees replaced. My point is that on the test he passed as having the need without lying at all. So he is now entitled to park outside shops in designated spaces and against parking restrictions like double yellows if he wants. So if he can walk around for two hours how can the assessment be right?
I have no issue with those who need help.

As far as I am aware, it is not possible to qualify for a blue badge on mobility grounds if you can walk around for two hours without issue. Blind or mental health issues or a learning disability might qualify.

[kowalski655]

If he is able to do that NOW,regardless of when the test was passed(& he certainly would fail these days) then perhaps morally he should give it up & use normal parking! And if he gets Higher Rate Mobility of DLA then he is definitely not entitled to that,and by not reporting a change in his circumstances IS committing benefit fraud.

[IanA2]

kowalski655 said:

If he is able to do that NOW,regardless of when the test was passed(& he certainly would fail these days) then perhaps morally he should give it up & use normal parking! And if he gets Higher Rate Mobility of DLA then he is definitely not entitled to that,and by not reporting a change in his circumstances IS committing benefit fraud.

It's not a moral issue afaiaa. The rules say that you should inform them of any changes in your condition/walking ability. So if the badge was issued on grounds of restricted mobility, it should be returned.

[spaximus]

IanA2 said:

spaximus said:

IanA2 said:

spaximus said:

The blue badge scheme is the most abused thing there is. Whilst I have sympathy for a blind person, unless they are also physically unable to walk a long distance, why do they need a blue badge?
My FIL has a blue badge, one of his greatest achievements, he passed all the criteria and yet can walk two hours around a car boot sale. It drives me mad when he circle a car park waiting for his bay to be clear.

If your FIL has committed a crime and made false representations in order to obtain a Blue Badge, perhaps, instead of assuming that everyone else is also abusing the scheme, you should take steps to ensure that he does not continue to do so.

No he has committed no crime, he has been properly assessed as he has a heart condition and has had both knees replaced. My point is that on the test he passed as having the need without lying at all. So he is now entitled to park outside shops in designated spaces and against parking restrictions like double yellows if he wants. So if he can walk around for two hours how can the assessment be right?
I have no issue with those who need help.

As far as I am aware, it is not possible to qualify for a blue badge on mobility grounds if you can walk around for two hours without issue. Blind or mental health issues or a learning disability might qualify.

I never said he has no problems in mobility, he does have real problems, has to have stair lift, has breathing difficulties, but this does not stop him doing a boot sale. Yes he will stop and rest as he goes around so it is not a route march, but a dam sight further than from outside a supermarket to inside to shop. He has never lied has been assessed by a consultant and applied correctly and had the badge for many years.
My point which is being missed is, if he is accepted by being correctly assessed then is the system too soft and these are being given out too easily? For example is obesity worthy of a blue badge? Why would being blind, mental issues or learning difficulty be something that a blue badge should be issued for?

[mph1977]

spaximus said:

<snip> Why would being blind, mental issues or learning difficulty be something that a blue badge should be issued for?

never quite understood why a blue badge should be issued for vision impairments as a sole disability .

gettign a blue badge of mental health reasons is nigh on impossible

getting one for Learning disabilities (in the absence of 'physical' co-morbidity) or some of the behavioural type health issues are often down to the fact the badge holder is a danger to themselves or others so having thei car which they are driven about in close at hand is ouseful to be able to bundle# them into it when they have 'meltdown'

[tonygt3]

Just maybe the ticket was issued because a parking ticket had not been purchased.
My local car park has disabled spaces, but it is clearly posted that all cars require tickets.
This is reasonable, as the reserved bays are wider and there is no reason not to charge.

[NWTony]

Devil2575 said:

98elise said:

NWTony said:

Eclassy said:

Maybe because the person he is picking up has a blue badge..... No?

I just don't see the need?

It doesn't matter if you do or don't see the need. Its a disabled space, and the person is legitmately using it. A disabled persons difficulties don't disappear when they're a passenger.

This.

I agree, I don't want you to walk away the impression that I park in disabled spots or anything. I don't even park in the disabled spots on the works car park and nobody uses them. I was merely questioning why the person picking up a blind person needed to park in a disabled spot? For clarity, not questioning why a blind person needs a car or anything like that.

I suppose I'm asking, to use your words, what disabled needs are being met more adequately by the disabled parking than other parking? What difference does it make to the blind person?

Oh asnd finally "It doesn't matter if you do or don't see the need". Tad patronising isn't it? I would have thought that a greater understanding would benefit everybody?

[geeks]

NWTony said:

I agree, I don't want you to walk away the impression that I park in disabled spots or anything. I don't even park in the disabled spots on the works car park and nobody uses them. I was merely questioning why the person picking up a blind person needed to park in a disabled spot? For clarity, not questioning why a blind person needs a car or anything like that.

I suppose I'm asking, to use your words, what disabled needs are being met more adequately by the disabled parking than other parking? What difference does it make to the blind person?

Oh asnd finally "It doesn't matter if you do or don't see the need". Tad patronising isn't it? I would have thought that a greater understanding would benefit everybody?

Maybe because they can't see the car net to them and they have more room to open a car door without spanking the car next to them?

[backwoodsman]

He is going to the council today, so I may have an update later.

It is a free carpark, that serves a pedestrianized housing estate.

He had a visitors badge, with the correct details filled in.

[IanA2]

backwoodsman said:

He is going to the council today, so I may have an update later.

It is a free carpark, that serves a pedestrianized housing estate.

He had a visitors badge, with the correct details filled in.

DO let us know the outcome. I'd be very surprised if they don't bin the ticket.

[aw51 121565]

geeks said:

NWTony said:

I agree, I don't want you to walk away the impression that I park in disabled spots or anything. I don't even park in the disabled spots on the works car park and nobody uses them. I was merely questioning why the person picking up a blind person needed to park in a disabled spot? For clarity, not questioning why a blind person needs a car or anything like that.

I suppose I'm asking, to use your words, what disabled needs are being met more adequately by the disabled parking than other parking? What difference does it make to the blind person?

Oh asnd finally "It doesn't matter if you do or don't see the need". Tad patronising isn't it? I would have thought that a greater understanding would benefit everybody?

Maybe because they can't see the car net to them and they have more room to open a car door without spanking the car next to them?

Perhaps because their exposure to risk of tripping and subsequent injury while walking on 'public' flagged footpaths (which, let's be honest, are not always as even as they could be ) is reduced if the vehicle they are being driven in can park nearer their destination than a 'normal' car parking space would usually be?

[Pip1968]

aw51 121565 said:

Perhaps because their exposure to risk of tripping and subsequent injury while walking on 'public' flagged footpaths (which, let's be honest, are not always as even as they could be ) is reduced if the vehicle they are being driven in can park nearer their destination than a 'normal' car parking space would usually be?

I just don't see it myself.

Pip