If you 'shop a suspected drink driver - does anything happen
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Greendubber said:
The burglar already knows where you live.... think about it......worked it out yet?...
I'm talking about someone else witnessing it, and telling the police about it. Very dangerous game that. The police will require your details as a witness, or else they won't act. Once you do that, your details will be given to the suspect as part of the evidence disclosure. At that point, make sure you have a couple of nasty Rottweilers to hand.....zarjaz1991 said:
All those who advocate snitching on others, you really do need to make sure your own lives are absolutely 100% beyond reproach at all times. Otherwise, you have no right whatsoever to sit in judgement on others.
The best bit of this thread is that so many people actually want to know the outcome! You're the type of people who'd show up at a public hanging. If you really are just being public spirited, then give the police the information and then forget about it. Don't go wanting to be updated with all the gory details.
Gloating at the misfortune of others is a very poor show. There but for the grace of God, etc.
Oh dear.The best bit of this thread is that so many people actually want to know the outcome! You're the type of people who'd show up at a public hanging. If you really are just being public spirited, then give the police the information and then forget about it. Don't go wanting to be updated with all the gory details.
Gloating at the misfortune of others is a very poor show. There but for the grace of God, etc.
You are what is wrong with the general public.
Greendubber said:
Oh dear.
You are what is wrong with the general public.
No. No I'm really not.You are what is wrong with the general public.
I'm the antidote to a society that has fallen for the 'divide and rule' tactics of successive governments.
People have been brainwashed into snitching on their neighbours for the slightest thing.
I'm glad to hear they do do something about it, I was nearly side swiped by a car coming out of a pub car park mid afternoon once and could see him weaving around behind me, at the traffic lights he actually fell asleep at the wheel so I got my wife to report him, we didn't hear anything back though.
zarjaz1991 said:
All those who advocate snitching on others, you really do need to make sure your own lives are absolutely 100% beyond reproach at all times. Otherwise, you have no right whatsoever to sit in judgement on others.
The best bit of this thread is that so many people actually want to know the outcome! You're the type of people who'd show up at a public hanging. If you really are just being public spirited, then give the police the information and then forget about it. Don't go wanting to be updated with all the gory details.
Gloating at the misfortune of others is a very poor show. There but for the grace of God, etc.
Oddly enough, I agree with some of what you say - I am not particularly interested in knowing the outcome if I "grass" someone. The best bit of this thread is that so many people actually want to know the outcome! You're the type of people who'd show up at a public hanging. If you really are just being public spirited, then give the police the information and then forget about it. Don't go wanting to be updated with all the gory details.
Gloating at the misfortune of others is a very poor show. There but for the grace of God, etc.
I also agree that in general, one can't assume the Police are your friends - and many of them seem to share your anti community, pro-crime attitude to "grassing".
However, I won't stand by and let very obviously wrong stuff happen if I feel there's a chance of stopping it.
Drink driving may well be caused by misfortune - I am not daft enough to assume I could never be an alcoholic (so I agree with your "there but for the grace of God line), but I honestly hope someone would shop me if I started drink driving. Being banned for that would be better than knowing I'd killed or injured someone from it.
If everyone acted like you, the world would be a much much s
ttier placezarjaz1991 said:
I'm the antidote to a society that has fallen for the 'divide and rule' tactics of successive governments.
People have been brainwashed into snitching on their neighbours for the slightest thing.
Jesus wept.People have been brainwashed into snitching on their neighbours for the slightest thing.
I'd be the first to point out that 'report your neighbour' has been the opening move for pretty much every repressive regime in history, but when it's very clearly in the public interest (such as removing p155heads from vehicles) then I'm fully in favour of it.
Edited by Rovinghawk on Thursday 17th April 11:08
zarjaz1991 said:
No. No I'm really not.
I'm the antidote to a society that has fallen for the 'divide and rule' tactics of successive governments.
People have been brainwashed into snitching on their neighbours for the slightest thing.
I'm the antidote to a society that has fallen for the 'divide and rule' tactics of successive governments.
People have been brainwashed into snitching on their neighbours for the slightest thing.
With that reply i am going to just assume you are a troll.
The alternative is that you are an idiot or a regular drink driver trying to hide his behaviour/guilt with accusations of "grassing" and "snitching".
We have one of the most permissive and free societies in the world. Now unless you are either a refugee or from a family that has recently come from one of the more difficult countries you would not know what a state led culture of fear/brainwashing would be like.
I honestly do not believe you can say that the UK is run on a divide and rule basis or that we have a culture of snitching on our neighbours, if anything more people need to step up and take social responsibility by having standards and attempting to change behaviours around them.
Countries where people have actually been brainwashed into snitching on their neighbours tend to have harsher prison camps.
To avoid Godwinning this conversation i will choose Romania under Ceausescu and Argentina under Pinochet as examples and if you genuinely think that calling 101 to report a driver obviously under the influence is on a par with them then you have persecution issues.
I can't believe i managed a calm and measured response when i feared i would just resort to calling you a f
king moron. 
Sad story from a few weeks ago -
"Police visited the Italian restaurant where Walken carried out his final job of the day and were told by staff that he had botched the repair job and appeared drunk. Then as he left he reversed his van into a parked car before driving off without stopping. One worker told officers "His eyes were glazed and his speech was slurred. Everything about him said he was drunk."
http://www.eastmidlandsnews.org.uk/news/drunk-beer...
"Police visited the Italian restaurant where Walken carried out his final job of the day and were told by staff that he had botched the repair job and appeared drunk. Then as he left he reversed his van into a parked car before driving off without stopping. One worker told officers "His eyes were glazed and his speech was slurred. Everything about him said he was drunk."
http://www.eastmidlandsnews.org.uk/news/drunk-beer...
Greendubber said:
zarjaz1991 said:
I would not want the police involved, frankly.
I repeat my earlier assertion, the police are not our friends.
To take that specific example - You grass on a burglar, the next thing is, the police are handing your name and address to the suspect. You'll enjoy the outcome of THAT.
The burglar already knows where you live if its your house though.I repeat my earlier assertion, the police are not our friends.
To take that specific example - You grass on a burglar, the next thing is, the police are handing your name and address to the suspect. You'll enjoy the outcome of THAT.
And in nearly 10 years if policing I have never.seen a callers details disclosed to an offender.
Do me a favour, never report anything.
The Police inadvertently (stupidly) identified us as the complainants by pointing at where the witness was standing i.e. our balcony
Idiots.
For me there is a World of difference between this and grassing/snitching.
If the bloke down the road is selling a few packs of duty free fags then that would be grassing.
If your neighbour's vehicle duty is a month out of date then that is grassing.
If a bloke down the road has a cannabis plant in his greenhouse then that is grassing ().
If you see someone driving while pissed then calling the plod is doing the right thing.
The reason drink drive is illegal is because the chances of an accident go through the roof.
If he does this every week, surely its only a matter of time before something happens.
If the bloke down the road is selling a few packs of duty free fags then that would be grassing.
If your neighbour's vehicle duty is a month out of date then that is grassing.
If a bloke down the road has a cannabis plant in his greenhouse then that is grassing (
).If you see someone driving while pissed then calling the plod is doing the right thing.
The reason drink drive is illegal is because the chances of an accident go through the roof.
If he does this every week, surely its only a matter of time before something happens.
longshot said:
For me there is a World of difference between this and grassing/snitching.
If the bloke down the road is selling a few packs of duty free fags then that would be grassing.
If your neighbour's vehicle duty is a month out of date then that is grassing.
If a bloke down the road has a cannabis plant in his greenhouse then that is grassing ().
If you see someone driving while pissed then calling the plod is doing the right thing.
The reason drink drive is illegal is because the chances of an accident go through the roof.
If he does this every week, surely its only a matter of time before something happens.
Ok, but....why the distinction?If the bloke down the road is selling a few packs of duty free fags then that would be grassing.
If your neighbour's vehicle duty is a month out of date then that is grassing.
If a bloke down the road has a cannabis plant in his greenhouse then that is grassing (
).If you see someone driving while pissed then calling the plod is doing the right thing.
The reason drink drive is illegal is because the chances of an accident go through the roof.
If he does this every week, surely its only a matter of time before something happens.
All are illegal. It does sound like you're applying your own personal standards to this. Which is fine in itself. However, all that's really different is that your 'grassing threshold' is different to mine.
I'm surprised so many people seem to be uncomfortable with this being pointed out.
DoubleSix said:
Not quite the same but I called the Police regarding a drunk neighbour who drove into my OH's car.
The Police inadvertently (stupidly) identified us as the complainants by pointing at where the witness was standing i.e. our balcony
Idiots.
Oh dear.The Police inadvertently (stupidly) identified us as the complainants by pointing at where the witness was standing i.e. our balcony
Idiots.
Any grief as a result of it?
Greendubber said:
DoubleSix said:
Not quite the same but I called the Police regarding a drunk neighbour who drove into my OH's car.
The Police inadvertently (stupidly) identified us as the complainants by pointing at where the witness was standing i.e. our balcony
Idiots.
Oh dear.The Police inadvertently (stupidly) identified us as the complainants by pointing at where the witness was standing i.e. our balcony
Idiots.
Any grief as a result of it?
Things like them smoking in the lift and communal areas whilst my OH was pregnant, noise levels went up etc etc
We moved.
I'm sad to say my once rosy view of the Police has been tainted by these sort of experiences, they did precisely nothing about the damage to our vehicle either.
zarjaz1991 said:
However, all that's really different is that your 'grassing threshold' is different to mine.
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We haven't found out what your grassing threshold is yet - clearly it's not burglary, criminal damage or drinking & driving (leaving aside the pointless example of speeding). What is it? Murder (arguably riskier to bear witness to if it's in the course of crime)? Child Abuse?.
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