LJ02 WHC - Crashed into me and drove off
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I've just been down to the police station to report this guy for failing to stop, so thought I'd post a thread to vent, if nothing else!
At 16:30 yesterday, I was driving down Whitehorse Lane in Thornton Heath, South London, approaching the mini roundabout, and intending to go all the way around it, back up Whitehorse Lane. Here's a streetview link of my appproach: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.397644,-0.092619...
I was aware that people often don't expect you to go all the way around a mini roundabout, so I slowed right down, put my right indicator on, and positioned myself slightly over to the left so I could make the turn and not "cut off" the roundabout. Despite this someone coming from the high street intending to go down Whitehorse Road pulled out in front of me, so I had to brake. At that point, a silver Peugeot 206 (LJ02 WHC) came flying down Whitehorse Lane, didn't see my car stopped on the mini roundabout, and went into my rear quarter.
I looked through the rear window at him and he looked absolutely devestated, so I was fairly sure he was going to stop. He reversed back quite slowly, and then indicated down Whitehorse Road as if he was going to stop, so I followed him, at which point he put his foot down.
At this point, it occurred to me that I hadn't got his reg, so I chased him down the side streets whilst on the phone to the police, and managed to get the reg as well as a description of where he was going. His driving was very poor and indecisive and I was able to keep up with him without too much risk, right up until the point he decided to overtake several cars on a blind bend in a 20 limit, with cars parked on both sides. I obviously had to back off, but saw him up ahead (on Grange Road) slow down and shout at two teenagers playing football in the road. As I approached them, they ran into the road and tried to slow me down, with one of them chucking the ball at me, so he's clearly local as he knew them. Whilst I was busy avoiding them, he entered the same roundabout where the accident occurred and I couldn't see which way he went.
The damage to my car (1998 MR2) doesn't look too bad, but would definitely write it off if I was to go through insurance. The rear quarter panel is pushed in, the rear bumper is damaged, and the lining on the rear quarter panel has come off. This damage also means that the light cluster is now loose, and there is a gap between the panel and light cluster where water would be able to get in. I was initially committed to going through insurance, but I'm leaning towards just seeing if I can get him convicted for failing to stop. If I go through insurance, my premiums will increase (I'm 19), the car will be written off, and I'll have to pay out my excess until it's reclaimed from the third party (if he's even insured to drive the car). Equally, I don't think I'll be able to fix the car myself, although I could probably make it look a good deal better, so I'm not sure what to do.
Either way, I'm very angry! If anyone is in Thornton Heath and sees LJ02 WHC being driven by a young Turkish looking guy with some damage on the front drivers side, let me know
Plenty of people witnessed the crash, but as I had to chase after him, I was unable to get anyone's details.
Here's some photos of the damage to my car
At 16:30 yesterday, I was driving down Whitehorse Lane in Thornton Heath, South London, approaching the mini roundabout, and intending to go all the way around it, back up Whitehorse Lane. Here's a streetview link of my appproach: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.397644,-0.092619...
I was aware that people often don't expect you to go all the way around a mini roundabout, so I slowed right down, put my right indicator on, and positioned myself slightly over to the left so I could make the turn and not "cut off" the roundabout. Despite this someone coming from the high street intending to go down Whitehorse Road pulled out in front of me, so I had to brake. At that point, a silver Peugeot 206 (LJ02 WHC) came flying down Whitehorse Lane, didn't see my car stopped on the mini roundabout, and went into my rear quarter.
I looked through the rear window at him and he looked absolutely devestated, so I was fairly sure he was going to stop. He reversed back quite slowly, and then indicated down Whitehorse Road as if he was going to stop, so I followed him, at which point he put his foot down.
At this point, it occurred to me that I hadn't got his reg, so I chased him down the side streets whilst on the phone to the police, and managed to get the reg as well as a description of where he was going. His driving was very poor and indecisive and I was able to keep up with him without too much risk, right up until the point he decided to overtake several cars on a blind bend in a 20 limit, with cars parked on both sides. I obviously had to back off, but saw him up ahead (on Grange Road) slow down and shout at two teenagers playing football in the road. As I approached them, they ran into the road and tried to slow me down, with one of them chucking the ball at me, so he's clearly local as he knew them. Whilst I was busy avoiding them, he entered the same roundabout where the accident occurred and I couldn't see which way he went.
The damage to my car (1998 MR2) doesn't look too bad, but would definitely write it off if I was to go through insurance. The rear quarter panel is pushed in, the rear bumper is damaged, and the lining on the rear quarter panel has come off. This damage also means that the light cluster is now loose, and there is a gap between the panel and light cluster where water would be able to get in. I was initially committed to going through insurance, but I'm leaning towards just seeing if I can get him convicted for failing to stop. If I go through insurance, my premiums will increase (I'm 19), the car will be written off, and I'll have to pay out my excess until it's reclaimed from the third party (if he's even insured to drive the car). Equally, I don't think I'll be able to fix the car myself, although I could probably make it look a good deal better, so I'm not sure what to do.
Either way, I'm very angry! If anyone is in Thornton Heath and sees LJ02 WHC being driven by a young Turkish looking guy with some damage on the front drivers side, let me know
Plenty of people witnessed the crash, but as I had to chase after him, I was unable to get anyone's details.Here's some photos of the damage to my car
Ok where the kids tried to stop you I would be pretty sure he is local, so have a drive around one evening and set a radius from the point I said , I bet you find it parked up,then park round the corner do what you want
Job done
I done this when 4 guys threatened my missus as four on to me isn't fair
Job done
I done this when 4 guys threatened my missus as four on to me isn't fair
John145 said:
Vehicle Make/Model: PEUGEOT 206 LX
Vehicle Type: PRIVATE CAR
And it's insured.
I reckon he just ran as he knew he'd never be insuring another car at his age with a fault claim. Either that or it's insured under his mum's name and he'd borrowed it.Vehicle Type: PRIVATE CAR
And it's insured.
zarjaz1991 said:
Thanks for posting this, and I'm so sorry to hear this happened. 
I really hope you get this sorted....please do keep the forum updated on what happens.
Hate people who run off like this. Snivelling little coward this bloke is.
Thanks - I definitely will, even if the outcome is NFA.I really hope you get this sorted....please do keep the forum updated on what happens.
Hate people who run off like this. Snivelling little coward this bloke is.
lerd said:
Ok where the kids tried to stop you I would be pretty sure he is local, so have a drive around one evening and set a radius from the point I said , I bet you find it parked up,then park round the corner do what you want
Job done
I done this when 4 guys threatened my missus as four on to me isn't fair
Oh, I've no doubt he's local and I could find him easily, but what would I actually do? Although I'm not "powerfully built", I've got plenty of mates who'd be happy to help, but I can't see it getting me anywhere. If we managed to find the house and get him to open up (unlikely) he'd probably just deny everything and would go running to the police if we threatened him. And as much as I'd like to put a few more dents in his car, I'm not spending hours walking around South London just to do that.Job done
I done this when 4 guys threatened my missus as four on to me isn't fair
Report to police and report to your insurance company. They'll chase his and regardless of what the police do that'll cause him a headache.
Any increase in premium you experience can, I've heard(!!), be dumped on his insurance company to cover the cost of. Also you've experience significant distress, alarm and pain since the event which is making life difficult.
Any increase in premium you experience can, I've heard(!!), be dumped on his insurance company to cover the cost of. Also you've experience significant distress, alarm and pain since the event which is making life difficult.
John145 said:
Report to police and report to your insurance company. They'll chase his and regardless of what the police do that'll cause him a headache.
Any increase in premium you experience can, I've heard(!!), be dumped on his insurance company to cover the cost of. Also you've experience significant distress, alarm and pain since the event which is making life difficult.
Think that's bullsAny increase in premium you experience can, I've heard(!!), be dumped on his insurance company to cover the cost of. Also you've experience significant distress, alarm and pain since the event which is making life difficult.
t I'm afraid. If he denies all knowledge and you've no independent witnesses, neither the Police or insurers will give a toss/be able/willing to help.donutsina911 said:
John145 said:
Report to police and report to your insurance company. They'll chase his and regardless of what the police do that'll cause him a headache.
Any increase in premium you experience can, I've heard(!!), be dumped on his insurance company to cover the cost of. Also you've experience significant distress, alarm and pain since the event which is making life difficult.
Think that's bullsAny increase in premium you experience can, I've heard(!!), be dumped on his insurance company to cover the cost of. Also you've experience significant distress, alarm and pain since the event which is making life difficult.
t I'm afraid. If he denies all knowledge and you've no independent witnesses, neither the Police or insurers will give a toss/be able/willing to help.I had a hit and run experience only my car was parked. A shop keeper got part of the reg and the car colour which was enough for the police to visit a local who initially denied then admitted when the police saw damage on their car also.
Knowing the area (and discription of driver) it wouldn't surprise me if he wasn't insured, the car possibly but not him.
Had the pleasure of taking a hired transit (not a straight panel on it) down the Old Kent Road in New Cross at the weekend, coming towards new cross people are always in the wrong lane and forcibly push their way in...needless to say I didn't move and two people (Africans) ruined the entire side if their cars on the front of the van. Neither stopped, later checks revealed niether were insured, the van wasn't marked but their cars needed a full side re-spray minimum. I laughed.
Talking to a college who lives in plumstead she has been hit 3 times (doing a fair amount of damage on each occasion), none were insured, only one stopped but gave a false name, and they were all African/Pakistani. Hate to stereotype but a growing minority of people come here and don't abide by our rules or regulations.
Set up an ANPR van in Thornton Heath/New Cross and the police would be pulling every other car without fail!
Had the pleasure of taking a hired transit (not a straight panel on it) down the Old Kent Road in New Cross at the weekend, coming towards new cross people are always in the wrong lane and forcibly push their way in...needless to say I didn't move and two people (Africans) ruined the entire side if their cars on the front of the van. Neither stopped, later checks revealed niether were insured, the van wasn't marked but their cars needed a full side re-spray minimum. I laughed.
Talking to a college who lives in plumstead she has been hit 3 times (doing a fair amount of damage on each occasion), none were insured, only one stopped but gave a false name, and they were all African/Pakistani. Hate to stereotype but a growing minority of people come here and don't abide by our rules or regulations.
Set up an ANPR van in Thornton Heath/New Cross and the police would be pulling every other car without fail!
Edited by kiethton on Thursday 17th April 14:57
kiethton said:
Knowing the area (and discription of driver) it wouldn't surprise me if he wasn't insured, the car possibly but not him.
Had the pleasure of taking a hired transit (not a straight panel on it) down the Old Kent Road in New Cross at the weekend, coming towards new cross people are always in the wrong lane and forcibly push their way in...needless to say I didn't move and two people (Africans) ruined the entire side if their cars on the front of the van. Neither stopped, later checks revealed niether were insured, the van wasn't marked but their cars needed a full side re-spray minimum. I laughed.
Talking to a college who lives in plumstead she has been hit 3 times (doing a fair amount of damage on each occasion), none were insured, only one stopped but gave a false name, and they were all African/Pakistani. Hate to stereotype but people come here and don't abide by our rules or regulations.
Set up an ANPR van in Thornton Heath/New Cross and the police would be pulling every other car without fail!
If that is an ethnic area such action could cause community unrest.Had the pleasure of taking a hired transit (not a straight panel on it) down the Old Kent Road in New Cross at the weekend, coming towards new cross people are always in the wrong lane and forcibly push their way in...needless to say I didn't move and two people (Africans) ruined the entire side if their cars on the front of the van. Neither stopped, later checks revealed niether were insured, the van wasn't marked but their cars needed a full side re-spray minimum. I laughed.
Talking to a college who lives in plumstead she has been hit 3 times (doing a fair amount of damage on each occasion), none were insured, only one stopped but gave a false name, and they were all African/Pakistani. Hate to stereotype but people come here and don't abide by our rules or regulations.
Set up an ANPR van in Thornton Heath/New Cross and the police would be pulling every other car without fail!
ORD said:
I am more worried about the fact that this chap has been talking to a college. No wonder he gets a bunch of racist drivel into his head, going around talking to buildings.
Apologies for the iPhone correct.Thing is, assuming that's directed at me I don't know how a statement of fact can be described as racist?
It's this approach, dealing out the racism card (and the concerns re. The above unrest) which will ensure that the problem doesn't get addressed, insted becoming more of a problem as it continues unperturbed.
kiethton said:
ORD said:
I am more worried about the fact that this chap has been talking to a college. No wonder he gets a bunch of racist drivel into his head, going around talking to buildings.
Apologies for the iPhone correct.Thing is, assuming that's directed at me I don't know how a statement of fact can be described as racist?
It's this approach, dealing out the racism card (and the concerns re. The above unrest) which will ensure that the problem doesn't get addressed, insted becoming more of a problem as it continues unperturbed.
kiethton said:
ORD said:
I am more worried about the fact that this chap has been talking to a college. No wonder he gets a bunch of racist drivel into his head, going around talking to buildings.
Apologies for the iPhone correct.Thing is, assuming that's directed at me I don't know how a statement of fact can be described as racist?
It's this approach, dealing out the racism card (and the concerns re. The above unrest) which will ensure that the problem doesn't get addressed, insted becoming more of a problem as it continues unperturbed.
Cliftonite said:
kiethton said:
Knowing the area (and discription of driver) it wouldn't surprise me if he wasn't insured, the car possibly but not him.
Had the pleasure of taking a hired transit (not a straight panel on it) down the Old Kent Road in New Cross at the weekend, coming towards new cross people are always in the wrong lane and forcibly push their way in...needless to say I didn't move and two people (Africans) ruined the entire side if their cars on the front of the van. Neither stopped, later checks revealed niether were insured, the van wasn't marked but their cars needed a full side re-spray minimum. I laughed.
Talking to a college who lives in plumstead she has been hit 3 times (doing a fair amount of damage on each occasion), none were insured, only one stopped but gave a false name, and they were all African/Pakistani. Hate to stereotype but people come here and don't abide by our rules or regulations.
Set up an ANPR van in Thornton Heath/New Cross and the police would be pulling every other car without fail!
If that is an ethnic area such action could cause community unrest.Had the pleasure of taking a hired transit (not a straight panel on it) down the Old Kent Road in New Cross at the weekend, coming towards new cross people are always in the wrong lane and forcibly push their way in...needless to say I didn't move and two people (Africans) ruined the entire side if their cars on the front of the van. Neither stopped, later checks revealed niether were insured, the van wasn't marked but their cars needed a full side re-spray minimum. I laughed.
Talking to a college who lives in plumstead she has been hit 3 times (doing a fair amount of damage on each occasion), none were insured, only one stopped but gave a false name, and they were all African/Pakistani. Hate to stereotype but people come here and don't abide by our rules or regulations.
Set up an ANPR van in Thornton Heath/New Cross and the police would be pulling every other car without fail!
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