Speed traps how to avoid

[Vipers]

mybrainhurts said:

Vipers said:

I once hired a car with not only cc, but a speed limiter in. Wouldn't it help if cars had a button you could push and set a limiter to 30 for town driving, most cars seem to,have no end of gizmos, why not one of these.

If you feel you need a limiter to control your driving, your driving can't be up to much.

Didn't say I needed one, I was thinking of you

Edited by Vipers on Thursday 24th April 10:31

[robinessex]

Vipers said:

Riccardino said:

Thanks (that was a road she did not know)

With todays' cars somethimes it is difficult not to exceed the speed limit and I do not want her to spend most of her time in the car looking for the speed limit panel and checking the speed (and then maybe missing a children who is crossing the road)

Do you know if things like road angel etc are legal in UK (not to go around with 2 GPS)?

Tell her to give up driving, seems incompetent to me.

I have been driving 45 years, never had a ticket for speeding, because I don't.

So in 45 years, you've never ONCE exceeded a speed limit! How do you know that? Amazing

[SK425]

robinessex said:

Vipers said:

Riccardino said:

Thanks (that was a road she did not know)

With todays' cars somethimes it is difficult not to exceed the speed limit and I do not want her to spend most of her time in the car looking for the speed limit panel and checking the speed (and then maybe missing a children who is crossing the road)

Do you know if things like road angel etc are legal in UK (not to go around with 2 GPS)?

Tell her to give up driving, seems incompetent to me.

I have been driving 45 years, never had a ticket for speeding, because I don't.

So in 45 years, you've never ONCE exceeded a speed limit! How do you know that? Amazing

To be fair, I don't think that's quite what he said . I wouldn't take "I don't speed" to mean something as strong as as "I have never once exceeded a speed limit, even by the teensiest of margins". And it's not like zero tickets in 45 years means you have never speeded, just that you haven't been caught.

I wouldn't go as far as claiming the OP's wife is incompetent though. One can choose to have a policy of never exceeding speed limits, and it's not that difficult. It doesn't take zero effort though, and it's certainly possible to stray over or to miss a sign and not be sure what the limit is. I don't consider myself immune from either of those mistakes and I wouldn't criticise anybody for wanting a driver aid to help with that, unless they were using their policy of adhering to speed limits as a substitute for paying attention to what's outside so they could ensure they were always driving sufficiently slowly.

[Vipers]

SK425 said:

I wouldn't go as far as claiming the OP's wife is incompetent though. One can choose to have a policy of never exceeding speed limits, and it's not that difficult. It doesn't take zero effort though, and it's certainly possible to stray over or to miss a sign and not be sure what the limit is. I don't consider myself immune from either of those mistakes and I wouldn't criticise anybody for wanting a driver aid to help with that, unless they were using their policy of adhering to speed limits as a substitute for paying attention to what's outside so they could ensure they were always driving sufficiently slowly.

Good points, some signs can easily be missed especially in unfamiliar territory, especially negotiating unfamiliar towns, with bus lanes to watch out for, perhaps looking for a direction sign to turn off, whilst keeping an eye on traffic lights, pedestrians wandering in the road, cyclists perhaps coming up the near side, and trying to stick to 20 which many towns seem to have these days.

I think anything which allows you to concentrate more on the road ahead is a good thing.

[mybrainhurts]

Vipers said:

SK425 said:

I wouldn't go as far as claiming the OP's wife is incompetent though. One can choose to have a policy of never exceeding speed limits, and it's not that difficult. It doesn't take zero effort though, and it's certainly possible to stray over or to miss a sign and not be sure what the limit is. I don't consider myself immune from either of those mistakes and I wouldn't criticise anybody for wanting a driver aid to help with that, unless they were using their policy of adhering to speed limits as a substitute for paying attention to what's outside so they could ensure they were always driving sufficiently slowly.

Good points, some signs can easily be missed especially in unfamiliar territory, especially negotiating unfamiliar towns, with bus lanes to watch out for, perhaps looking for a direction sign to turn off, whilst keeping an eye on traffic lights, pedestrians wandering in the road, cyclists perhaps coming up the near side, and trying to stick to 20 which many towns seem to have these days.

I think anything which allows you to concentrate more on the road ahead is a good thing.

What, you mean, like, removing your mirrors...?

[Vipers]

mybrainhurts said:

What, you mean, like, removing your mirrors...?

You may as well, so many seem not to use them.

[rich888]

mybrainhurts said:

Don't rely on that, it's sometimes out of date.

It's only three years out of date

Thing to remember is what is more important to politicians is not how fast I am driving today, but how I am going to vote at the Euro elections in May, and at the next UK General Election in 2015, and I am sorry to say mr cameron, if the speed camera scam continues as is, you are pretty damn f***ed.

Lib - NO
Lab - NO
Con - NO

Am saying NO to the all too cosy Lib, Lab, Con that has truly ruined this country since the 1970s for their own politically related benefits. We desperately need change if this country is to survive into the next century.

[JagXJR]

I doubt he would care, his bed is already well feathered.

But you are quite correct, it is time for a change before we end up in the same situation as Greece, Ireland and Iceland. It is only the really low interest rates that are keeping us afloat.

All of the driver aids discussed are just that, aids. Should not replace good driving habits. Sad to say these are a bit lacking in most drivers today.

[Jon1967x]

rich888 said:

...that has truly ruined this country since the 1970s.....

They were the days... Power cuts, strikes, we couldn't build a car that didn't fall apart..

Not to mention the really dodgy dress sense..

[JagXJR]

True but at least we were not all in debt just to make the bankers richer

[Jon1967x]

JagXJR said:

True but at least we were not all in debt just to make the bankers richer

Yep the days before two car families, foreign holidays, a freezer, dishwasher, sky television and wanting to live in a detached house, no win no fee lawyers, 'I know my rights' clowns, 2nd and 3rd marriages or kids born into single parent families etc etc. We can all draw broad stereotypes.

I'm not defending the bankers, but they just milked a greedy society who wanted to live beyond their means. The unpalatable truth is that our average standard of living is/was beyond what we could afford. It's now bring corrected, and it hurts.

I feel for those really struggling, I feel a lot less for those that got easy credit, over extended themselves and want to take no personal responsibility for that.

The trouble with these discussions is that everyone knows someone badly effected by a change in gov policy or has a strong political belief but I really struggle with hankering after the 70's

[fatboy18]

My sister has a large Merc estate, now please don't ask me what model, all I know is its silver It has some form of cruse control, she gets into a 30 zone presses something and the car will stay under 30mph.

Job Done.

[4rephill]

fatboy18 said:

My sister has a large Merc estate, now please don't ask me what model, all I know is its silver It has some form of cruse control, she gets into a 30 zone presses something and the car will stay under 30mph.

Job Done.

Does she not have the ability to judge her speed in a 30mph limit for herself then? - That's slightly worrying!

She's going to love fully automated cars when they finally hit the roads!

[fatboy18]

4rephill said:

fatboy18 said:

My sister has a large Merc estate, now please don't ask me what model, all I know is its silver It has some form of cruse control, she gets into a 30 zone presses something and the car will stay under 30mph.

Job Done.

Does she not have the ability to judge her speed in a 30mph limit for herself then? - That's slightly worrying!

She's going to love fully automated cars when they finally hit the roads!

She's normally too busy gossiping to everyone to notice what she's doing

[Vipers]

4rephill said:

fatboy18 said:

My sister has a large Merc estate, now please don't ask me what model, all I know is its silver It has some form of cruse control, she gets into a 30 zone presses something and the car will stay under 30mph.

Job Done.

Does she not have the ability to judge her speed in a 30mph limit for herself then? - That's slightly worrying!

She's going to love fully automated cars when they finally hit the roads!

Been driving over 40 years now, used to hold an HGV1 licence, and as far as I know I am the best driver I know

But the point is I use cc in just about any limit, very handy for all these 20's, not that I can't maintain a steady speed, but with all the bloody pedestrians ambling around with their bloody ear phones in, ambling into,the road, cyclists etc, it means once cc is engaged I can keep an eye on the road around me with 100% attention! no need to look down! and as we all know! it is so easy to increase slightly above the limit! and zap, thank you sir that will be £60.

I notice as well when driving through town how many seem to zoom up and sit right behind me.

Just my 2p worth.

[Jon1967x]

[quote=fatboy18]... presses something and the car will stay under 30mph.[quote]

Maybe she presses the brake?

[SK425]

Vipers said:

But the point is I use cc in just about any limit, very handy for all these 20's, not that I can't maintain a steady speed, but with all the bloody pedestrians ambling around with their bloody ear phones in, ambling into,the road, cyclists etc, it means once cc is engaged I can keep an eye on the road around me with 100% attention!

Something isn't coming across right about that. To me, with all the bloody pedestrians ambling around with their bloody ear phones in, ambling into,the road, cyclists etc, the last thing I'd want to do is engage a device that interfered with my ability to manage speed with the accelerator pedal. In a busy built up area, in close proximity to squishy, vulnerable people who aren't paying enough attention, I'd imagine there might be all sorts of hazards that demanded driving slower than the speed limit so I would generally expect my speed to be continuously varying up and down - using the brakes where necessary of course, but for smoothness and minimum faff I'd want to be doing it by modulating the accelerator pedal where possible. I can see how a speed limiter might be useful to help keep me legal, but cruise control would be a hindrance at best and a dangerous liability at worst.