BBC-The Nolan Show. Car theft victim to pay £300 for car.
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BBC Radio Ulster. The Stephen Nolan Show. A caller rang the programme stating that she was asked to pay £300 for the return of her car, stolen in a creeper burglary.
https://audioboo.fm/boos/2100494-victim-of-car-the...
https://audioboo.fm/boos/2100494-victim-of-car-the...
Its hardly a new thing. I had to pay to have my car recovered from West Belfast in 1989. I didn't particularly relish recovering my car from bandit country myself and I can't imagine many people would.
She could claim the money back from her insurance company but she's chosen a £500 excess to reduce her premium. She can't have her cake and eat it, although that's what many people in Northern Ireland want these days!
She could claim the money back from her insurance company but she's chosen a £500 excess to reduce her premium. She can't have her cake and eat it, although that's what many people in Northern Ireland want these days!
Aretnap said:
If my TV or my sofa get nicked, and subsequently find them, do I have to pay to recover them, or is it just cars?
The police have the capacity, space and capability to recover most items, so no, you don't have to pay for those.They don't have the same for vehicles. The recovery agents will also have suitable, specialist storage space for forensic examinations.
otolith said:
Perhaps some of the "victim surcharges" levied on motoring offences could be used to reimburse this amount to victims of car theft?
That is the most sensible thing I've heard in a long time. Speeding is a victimless crime yet you have to pay a surcharge to help the "victims". Well here is a victim of a car related crime, surely this is what its for. How can the powers that be explain that one.NPI said:
How much would you charge to do it? There's the price to buy your truck,
http://www.recoveryworld.co.uk/index.php?option=co...
Now you just need to run it, employ staff, etc or are you happy to do it for free ?
Home office spokeswoman said:
insisted: "The removal of stolen vehicles is important for protecting the vehicle from further theft or vandalism and preventing an obstruction.
"The costs have to be met somewhere, and would be a cost to the police or the public purse if not met by the vehicle owner."
"The costs have to be met somewhere, and would be a cost to the police or the public purse if not met by the vehicle owner."
speedyguy said:
How much would you charge to do it?
I wasn't commenting on how much the recovery company charge, merely that as I read it, the Police should make the Home Office mandated charge of £150.I think it's arguable that the Police should cover it themselves, as they failed to prevent the theft of the vehicle. But of course "Police" means tax-payer.
Some police forces make money from selling the contract to tow and store recovered vehicles.
The charge is generally accepted by insurance companies. So if your premium covers such costs then they pay out without a murmur. If it isn't then tough.
We had a demand from an irate motorist who, one assumes, had been the victim of one of these charges, to add to his vehicle's PNC record that he did not want the vehicle towed and that he would arrange his, somewhat cheaper, own.
What is odd is that the charge is often the same regardless of the mileage.
I've often wondered what would happen if there was a challenge to the charge, if an owner asked for an itemised charge and then brought up a dozen estimates from other tow companies.
The charge is generally accepted by insurance companies. So if your premium covers such costs then they pay out without a murmur. If it isn't then tough.
We had a demand from an irate motorist who, one assumes, had been the victim of one of these charges, to add to his vehicle's PNC record that he did not want the vehicle towed and that he would arrange his, somewhat cheaper, own.
What is odd is that the charge is often the same regardless of the mileage.
I've often wondered what would happen if there was a challenge to the charge, if an owner asked for an itemised charge and then brought up a dozen estimates from other tow companies.
Derek Smith said:
The charge is generally accepted by insurance companies. So if your premium covers such costs then they pay out without a murmur. If it isn't then tough.
Almost everyone is going to have some level of excess, so even if it's only £100 and you've got protected NCB it's still unlikely to make sense to claim to get £50 back (assuming there's no damage etc of course).Derek Smith said:
What is odd is that the charge is often the same regardless of the mileage.
I've often wondered what would happen if there was a challenge to the charge, if an owner asked for an itemised charge and then brought up a dozen estimates from other tow companies.
The way I read the Telegraph article, the charge is set (rules/regulations/law?) by the Government.I've often wondered what would happen if there was a challenge to the charge, if an owner asked for an itemised charge and then brought up a dozen estimates from other tow companies.
La Liga said:
That's what her insurance is for.
It was stolen and recovered. It isn't done by magic, it's done by a truck that needs paying for, driven by a man who needs paying for, by a business that needs cash flow to exist.
I heard this item this morning on Radio Ulster. Her annoyance was that she informed the police that she had a spare key and was happy to recover the vehicle herself but was told that she couldn't as they use a recovery company. This is, apparently, to prevent the vehicle being damaged or even stolen again whilst waiting for the owner to arrive. She was also told that had her vehicle been used to commit a crime it would have been returned without cost.It was stolen and recovered. It isn't done by magic, it's done by a truck that needs paying for, driven by a man who needs paying for, by a business that needs cash flow to exist.
A few years ago I had a Golf GTI and a Range Rover stolen on the same night as a result of a creeper burglary. The Golf was found within twelve hours and the police drove me to recover it using a spare key. The Range Rover was found about two weeks later and, again, the police took me to the scene to use my spare key to gain entry but, this time, SOCO wanted it so it was then loaded onto a recovery truck. It was returned to me about two weeks after that. I wasn't charged a penny in either case.
Nolan is returning to the subject on the show tomorrow morning
Honestly, anyone from the mainland UK listening to the Nolan Show on Radio Ulster will probably think
"This shows having a bad day with thick, ignorant callers"
Believe me it is like that everyday and it doesn't improve.
Having been born in and lived in Belfast I am pretty certain Northern Ireland has the most thick backward people per square mile than anywhere else in the UK.
Nolan has a magic radio formula
get one extreme view, get another extreme view.
Play them off against one another
Then sit back and enjoy the ratings and the Sony Award at the end of the year.
"This shows having a bad day with thick, ignorant callers"
Believe me it is like that everyday and it doesn't improve.
Having been born in and lived in Belfast I am pretty certain Northern Ireland has the most thick backward people per square mile than anywhere else in the UK.
Nolan has a magic radio formula
get one extreme view, get another extreme view.
Play them off against one another
Then sit back and enjoy the ratings and the Sony Award at the end of the year.
Derek Smith said:
Some police forces make money from selling the contract to tow and store recovered vehicles.
The charge is generally accepted by insurance companies. So if your premium covers such costs then they pay out without a murmur. If it isn't then tough.
We had a demand from an irate motorist who, one assumes, had been the victim of one of these charges, to add to his vehicle's PNC record that he did not want the vehicle towed and that he would arrange his, somewhat cheaper, own.
What is odd is that the charge is often the same regardless of the mileage.
I've often wondered what would happen if there was a challenge to the charge, if an owner asked for an itemised charge and then brought up a dozen estimates from other tow companies.
Maybe that was the case in the 70s but is not reflective of things nowThe charge is generally accepted by insurance companies. So if your premium covers such costs then they pay out without a murmur. If it isn't then tough.
We had a demand from an irate motorist who, one assumes, had been the victim of one of these charges, to add to his vehicle's PNC record that he did not want the vehicle towed and that he would arrange his, somewhat cheaper, own.
What is odd is that the charge is often the same regardless of the mileage.
I've often wondered what would happen if there was a challenge to the charge, if an owner asked for an itemised charge and then brought up a dozen estimates from other tow companies.
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