HADECS 3 cameras on the M25

HADECS 3 cameras on the M25

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cmaguire

3,589 posts

108 months

Saturday 5th November 2016
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mybrainhurts said:
No they haven't.

Some are yellow, some aren't, on the same section of motorway.

Anybody know why?
Who cares, paint them pink and they'll still work unless you get overspray on the lens.

Where is Captain Gatso when you need him?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

254 months

Saturday 5th November 2016
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cmaguire said:
mybrainhurts said:
No they haven't.

Some are yellow, some aren't, on the same section of motorway.

Anybody know why?
Who cares, paint them pink and they'll still work unless you get overspray on the lens.

Where is Captain Gatso when you need him?
He's working on new tactics...



Pdelamare

659 posts

127 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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Some stats in this link.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37888207

speedking31

3,543 posts

135 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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But those stats are pre HADECS3.

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

236 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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speedking31 said:
But those stats are pre HADECS3.
confused HADECS3 was being used in 2014/15

HappyMidget

6,788 posts

114 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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My dad got his first ticket from this camera (he thinks) http://www.speedcamerasuk.com/database/SWS/sws079.... Got a SAC for 80 something in a 70. No limit showing on the gantries.

ETA - Confirmed with dad it was 81 in a 70 - probably that camera.

Edited by HappyMidget on Monday 7th November 16:08

speedking31

3,543 posts

135 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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FurtiveFreddy said:
speedking31 said:
But those stats are pre HADECS3.
confused HADECS3 was being used in 2014/15
OK. Pre the proliferation of HADECS3.

12TS

1,806 posts

209 months

Saturday 12th November 2016
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95mph at Epping now....

was fined £440, given five penalty points, and ordered to pay £90 compensation and a victim surcharge of £44 for driving along the M25 at Epping at a speed of 95mph, in excess of the 70mph speed limit.


First one below the ton.

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

131 months

Sunday 13th November 2016
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12TS said:
95mph at Epping now....

was fined £440, given five penalty points, and ordered to pay £90 compensation and a victim surcharge of £44 for driving along the M25 at Epping at a speed of 95mph, in excess of the 70mph speed limit.


First one below the ton.
How do you know this?

12TS

1,806 posts

209 months

Sunday 13th November 2016
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Last but one in the speeding section here.

http://www.essexlive.news/who-has-been-in-court-fr...

It's the first one below 100 I've seen reported here, there are often reports over 100 at Epping.

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

236 months

Sunday 13th November 2016
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12TS said:
Last but one in the speeding section here.

http://www.essexlive.news/who-has-been-in-court-fr...

It's the first one below 100 I've seen reported here, there are often reports over 100 at Epping.
How do you know it was a HADECS3 used to measure the speed?

PoleDriver

28,616 posts

193 months

Sunday 13th November 2016
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12TS said:
Last but one in the speeding section here.

http://www.essexlive.news/who-has-been-in-court-fr...

It's the first one below 100 I've seen reported here, there are often reports over 100 at Epping.
Blimey, I'll be careful driving round there, they're a bit harsh!

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

131 months

Monday 14th November 2016
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12TS said:
Last but one in the speeding section here.

http://www.essexlive.news/who-has-been-in-court-fr...

It's the first one below 100 I've seen reported here, there are often reports over 100 at Epping.
As previously, the camera could be generating lots of SACs and FPNs at lower vehicle speeds when the NSL applies which wouldn't involve court and therefore wouldn't appear in the local rag. There will be a distribution curve somewhere.

12TS

1,806 posts

209 months

Monday 14th November 2016
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V8 Fettler said:
As previously, the camera could be generating lots of SACs and FPNs at lower vehicle speeds when the NSL applies which wouldn't involve court and therefore wouldn't appear in the local rag. There will be a distribution curve somewhere.
Wouldn't disagree with that. It just told me that you couldn't drive through these cameras when there was no speed limit displayed with impunity.

Blakewater

4,303 posts

156 months

Monday 14th November 2016
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All the people commenting on the article saying, "Obey the speed limit, 70mph is fast enough," will be the ones collecting most of the fines because they don't understand what's going on with the smart motorways and variable speed limits and they don't think they need to watch out for the cameras. They can't even read the article and the other comments properly to gain a greater understanding, never mind the up to date Highway Code.

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

236 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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V8 Fettler said:
12TS said:
Last but one in the speeding section here.

http://www.essexlive.news/who-has-been-in-court-fr...

It's the first one below 100 I've seen reported here, there are often reports over 100 at Epping.
As previously, the camera could be generating lots of SACs and FPNs at lower vehicle speeds when the NSL applies which wouldn't involve court and therefore wouldn't appear in the local rag. There will be a distribution curve somewhere.
Where does it say in that article those speeding cases were from HADECS3 sites or even from fixed cameras of any type?

12TS

1,806 posts

209 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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FurtiveFreddy said:
Where does it say in that article those speeding cases were from HADECS3 sites or even from fixed cameras of any type?
It doesn't, it's an assumption. However many of the cases reported all look to be based on fixed camera locations (based on local knowledge). I was going to have a look at Pepipoo and see if I could get some correlation.

12TS

1,806 posts

209 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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agtlaw said:
For anyone who doesn't believe that the M25 HADECS system enforces a NSL, I'm now looking at the paperwork for M25 Epping Post 5563A. Speed limit: 70 mph. Court hearing pending.
I've now had a look at Pepipoo. Quite a few people clocked by this camera around the ton. I don't know for sure if it's HADECs but I'll try and work out where it is.

http://www.pepipoo.com/search-results.htm?cx=00295...

pixelatedJH

225 posts

112 months

Wednesday 16th November 2016
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The one anticlockwise between J3 and J2 seems to be busy in the evenings... Slow traffic in lane 1 queueing for Dartford seems to make a 40 limit and then everyone in the (clear) other lanes gets flashed. Watched it flash almost 10 times in a few minutes queueing the other day.

cmaguire

3,589 posts

108 months

Thursday 24th November 2016
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pixelatedJH said:
The one anticlockwise between J3 and J2 seems to be busy in the evenings... Slow traffic in lane 1 queueing for Dartford seems to make a 40 limit and then everyone in the (clear) other lanes gets flashed. Watched it flash almost 10 times in a few minutes queueing the other day.
Cashing in on the unmitigated f@ck-up they've made of the toll booth removal at the tunnel side.