HADECS 3 cameras on the M25
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Andyuk911 said:
Tesla have autopilot :-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7quu551ehc0
They said the technology will be available to other companies ...
I hear they come with a change of trousers in case of malfunction.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7quu551ehc0
They said the technology will be available to other companies ...
Remember, these things were moved about to different gantries whilst on trial, so the Highways Agency goons might do likewise with operational deployment.
You can see them in daylight, but not in the dark, so you'll have to slow for every gantry, then make up time between gantries and after the gantries end.
Oh, wait, these things were meant to make you drive slowly, weren't they? I really hate this, but it's wholly appropriate right now ------>
And I'd risk a little bet that the online market for fake number plates is about to explode.
The government really ought to wake up and rein in this new bunch of Highways Agency control freaks.
You can see them in daylight, but not in the dark, so you'll have to slow for every gantry, then make up time between gantries and after the gantries end.
Oh, wait, these things were meant to make you drive slowly, weren't they? I really hate this, but it's wholly appropriate right now ------>
And I'd risk a little bet that the online market for fake number plates is about to explode.
The government really ought to wake up and rein in this new bunch of Highways Agency control freaks.
speedyguy said:
mybrainhurts said:
The government really ought to wake up and rein in this new bunch of Highways Agency control freaks who are trying to use speeds to control traffic for maximum throughput rather than people to tight to go on a track day
Fixed that for you 
R8VXF said:
speedyguy said:
mybrainhurts said:
The government really ought to wake up and rein in this new bunch of Highways Agency control freaks who are trying to use speeds to control traffic for maximum throughput rather than people to tight to go on a track day
Fixed that for you mybrainhurts said:
Very good, but a bit obvious, size-wise....
Wouldn't you just love to hire a car the same as Ed Balls's car, fit one of these and trip a few cameras at 120mph...?
Deep joy...
This one is a bit of an urban myth really, but would be a pretty good prank nevertheless. Wouldn't you just love to hire a car the same as Ed Balls's car, fit one of these and trip a few cameras at 120mph...?
Deep joy...
http://www.snopes.com/autos/law/snaptrap.asp
It's not about people wanting to use the motorway as an alternative to a track day. I doubt anyone here would condone someone driving down a motorway at very high speed with no regard for other road users around them. I certainly wouldn't. I've driven on plenty of quiet smart motorways where one odd gantry has had a reduced limit, or a different limit to the rest, with the gantry showing the higher limit or blank screens within sight. That sort of scenario must catch out lots of people. A low limit for miles with very little traffic is just inconvenient and annoying.
Smart motorways make a difference by providing an extra lane on the cheap without the motorway having to be physically widened. I'm not sure how much the ever changing limits and cameras are a benefit.
R8VXF said:
speedyguy said:
mybrainhurts said:
The government really ought to wake up and rein in this new bunch of Highways Agency control freaks who are trying to use speeds to control traffic for maximum throughput rather than people to tight to go on a track day
Fixed that for you A single, absolute and strictly-enforced speed limit for a M'way is a nonsense. And I'm referring to 70mph here as an absolute peak, not the 40/50/60/70 we get on smart M-ways, which does make some genuine sense at the busiest times or where there's a serious incident up ahead.
Why? Because at e.g. 5am or 10pm - quiet m-way on a dry day with good visibility, 70 is ridiculously out-of-date for modern cars for a driver that is paying attention - 90 wouldn't be a problem, and you could get away with an argument for 100. In-between, there is a genuine argument for 80 as long as traffic flow permits. And it's telling that trafpol don't pull anyone doing that sort of speed (plus some, often) unless there are other reasons...surely these are the experts, not people in armchairs?!?
And up until now that's exactly how M-way traffic enforcement has worked - police were focusing more on behaviours than speed, which makes perfect sense as someone not paying attention or being aggressive at 65mph is more dangerous than someone who understands roadcraft at 85mph. Both times I've been pulled on M-ways it's been because I've been pushing the limits of what trafpol have found to be acceptable speed (i.e. my indicated speed has begun with a 9_), and both times I've been given words of advice rather than a ticket. The consequence is I've reined in my 'normal' M-way cruise back to where it should be, grateful to be dealt with as a human being not as a statistic.
I've also lost count of the number of times I've exceeded 80mph actual - probably most trips on an M-way to be honest. Yet that behaviour NOW will see me with an instant ticket. But the chap being an arse/moron/fool at 65mph can carry on with abandon and cause accidents, because the cameras won't notice.
THIS is why the 'always active in a 70-limit' cameras are a bad idea.
(Last point - autopilot - if the limit is too low for the design of a road, even normally-attentive drivers can drift into 'autopilot' and actually be less safe than if they were driving at the road's 'natural' speed and were concentrating as a result...)
speedyguy said:
mybrainhurts said:
The government really ought to wake up and rein in this new bunch of Highways Agency control freaks who are trying to use speeds to control traffic for maximum throughput rather than people to tight to go on a track day
Fixed that for you 
ks you have. You're either very naïve or you don't do much driving. Some of us need to do long distances quickly and these things have nothing to do with the variable limits. "Control traffic for maximum throughput"....? If the variable limits worked as desired, you might have a point. As it is, they frequently are not working
Googie said:
Good post by Havoc-strict enforcement of 70mph is all stick and no carrot
And serves no useful purpose, other than raising money and adding to the list of drivers banned under totting up, who might lose their jobs, which might lead to losing their houses which might lead to families breaking up.Never mind, eh? We'll have slowed down traffic on the safest roads in the country and made the staff at BRAKE go all gooey and orgasmic.
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