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Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
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Black_S3 said:
Agreed, I cant imagine any of my fk ups at work getting me into the papers.
Have the public put a great deal of trust in you to provide an important service to them, and are you being paid for the service from the public purse?

If no, then it's irrelevant whether your incompetence is widely publicised or not.

carinaman

21,291 posts

172 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
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How many former heads of the National Policing Improvement Agency can there be?

davemac250

4,499 posts

205 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
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For clarity, by them I meant senior officers.

mph1977

12,467 posts

168 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
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Red 4 said:
carinaman said:
from: http://rt.com/uk/172128-police-harassment-data-ill...

If that's true that's unbelievably stupid. Why risk all that for silliness like that? If it's true?
I doubt it will be due to sillyness - if the allegations are true.

More likely breathtaking arrogance and contempt for the rules.
it's also from the place for those who dislike the UK to Putin the nasty pieces , RT ...

carinaman

21,291 posts

172 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
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mph1977 said:
it's also from the place for those who dislike the UK to Putin the nasty pieces , RT ...
1. Reportedly PCC Sue Mountstevens told Chief Constable Nick Gargan the name of his female colleague that made a complaint about his conduct.

2. The Misconduct hearing could have been held in public. If it had been held in public it could have been reported and then perhaps covered by a reputable news outlet that can be trusted to tell the truth and people would possibly be better informed and better able to make their own mind up.

3. British newspapers and media outlet carry 'news' items generated by the police.

4. RT may be nasty pieces, but West Midlands police, reportedly the second largest police client of Common Purpose after the Met, got this very wrong:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-ord...

Edited by carinaman on Thursday 13th August 21:22

carinaman

21,291 posts

172 months

Wednesday 19th August 2015
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carinaman

21,291 posts

172 months

Wednesday 19th August 2015
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XCP said:
carinaman said:
http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/40-people-interviewed...

I guess he may not be attending Harrogate this week?
I have heard some fairly unsavoury stories, but I shall keep them to myself at the moment.
http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Nick-Gargan-behaved-i...

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 19th August 2015
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So basically all the matters involving women are irrelevant as they are all unproven and the misconduct matters all relate to relatively minor data breaches. Although the article only lists 7 findings when there are 8, so I am assuming the 8th is also a data breach.

Either way, he should still retire as he has little to no credibility now.






XCP

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16,914 posts

228 months

Wednesday 19th August 2015
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La Liga said:
So basically all the matters involving women are irrelevant as they are all unproven and the misconduct matters all relate to relatively minor data breaches. Although the article only lists 7 findings when there are 8, so I am assuming the 8th is also a data breach.

Either way, he should still retire as he has little to no credibility now.
The 8th relates to 'intimate images' on his official police phone!

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 19th August 2015
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Why anyone would use their police phone as their personal phone as well (as forces offer) is beyond me.

carinaman

21,291 posts

172 months

Wednesday 19th August 2015
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He can't enforce and maintain discipline within Avon & Somerset police given his own conduct.

What's the point of Police & Crime Commissioners if Chief Constables can have bombproof, hardened employment contracts?


Vaud

50,467 posts

155 months

Wednesday 19th August 2015
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What is the pragmatic solution?

Offer him pension top up and have him agree never to work directly with the police again?

carinaman

21,291 posts

172 months

Wednesday 19th August 2015
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How would a Police Constable be treated if they had 'intimate' photos on their 'work' phone?

Vaud

50,467 posts

155 months

Wednesday 19th August 2015
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That wasn't my question. I asked what the [pragmatic] solution was.

Bigends

5,418 posts

128 months

carinaman

21,291 posts

172 months

Wednesday 19th August 2015
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XCP said:
La Liga said:
So basically all the matters involving women are irrelevant as they are all unproven and the misconduct matters all relate to relatively minor data breaches. Although the article only lists 7 findings when there are 8, so I am assuming the 8th is also a data breach.

Either way, he should still retire as he has little to no credibility now.
The 8th relates to 'intimate images' on his official police phone!


Is Gargan getting stitched up?

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

158 months

Wednesday 19th August 2015
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carinaman said:
What exactly are 'stationary costs'?

carinaman

21,291 posts

172 months

Wednesday 19th August 2015
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Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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Rovinghawk said:
What exactly are 'stationary costs'?
Err...costs for stationary, such as paper, envelopes etc.

Vaud

50,467 posts

155 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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Mr2Mike said:
Err...costs for stationary, such as paper, envelopes etc.
stationary
vs
stationery

Two different words. I think the point is that it is a very sloppy cost submission?