From 1 October 2014, the paper tax disc will no longer need

From 1 October 2014, the paper tax disc will no longer need

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Flibble

6,475 posts

181 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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Timbergiant said:
I picked up a new car today and there was no tax disc, now I was a bit sceptical but I knew the changes were coming so OK all is good, after a quick google I spotted this thread, so it seems legit.
But its not October so whats going on?
A brand new car? The tax disc will be in the post to you within 2 weeks. They changed it a while back so that dealers don't get tax discs, instead they apply for the tax on your behalf and it is posted directly to you.

hobbiniho

109 posts

191 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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^^ previous owner was forced to cash in the tax as the car was not insured?? or perhaps they just cashed it in to get the extra money

4rephill

5,041 posts

178 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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Timbergiant said:
I picked up a new car today and there was no tax disc, now I was a bit sceptical but I knew the changes were coming so OK all is good, after a quick google I spotted this thread, so it seems legit.
But its not October so whats going on?
Up until October you still need to display a tax disc, otherwise you commit the offence of "Failing to display".

The rules that still apply until 1st October can be found here: http://www.emcgroup.co.uk/dvla-tax-disc-change-for...

Basically, once the dealership has registered the car with the DVLA, you can drive it for up to 14 days without displaying a tax disc (during this time, a tax disc should be dispatched to either the dealership or your home).

DUMBO100

1,878 posts

184 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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Oh bugger mine expires on the 1/7/14 so I guess I'll need to get a small one to cover me until October. I'm personally glad that they are going because I could never rip those f'ing circular bits of st in the right shape anyway.

4rephill

5,041 posts

178 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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DUMBO100 said:
Oh bugger mine expires on the 1/7/14 so I guess I'll need to get a small one to cover me until October. I'm personally glad that they are going because I could never rip those f'ing circular bits of st in the right shape anyway.
Mine expires on the 1/9/14, so I'll have to get a disc to display for at least 1 month! (TBH, I may just leave it's last ever tax disc in the window to mark the end of a chapter in the cars life! smile )

As for tearing the disc out, having nearly torn a disc in half once, I always use nail scissors to cut them out.

Flibble

6,475 posts

181 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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DUMBO100 said:
Oh bugger mine expires on the 1/7/14 so I guess I'll need to get a small one to cover me until October. I'm personally glad that they are going because I could never rip those f'ing circular bits of st in the right shape anyway.
You can get a full year's worth, it's only needing the paper disc that is changing, existing tax will remain valid.

Timbergiant

995 posts

130 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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Flibble said:
A brand new car? The tax disc will be in the post to you within 2 weeks. They changed it a while back so that dealers don't get tax discs, instead they apply for the tax on your behalf and it is posted directly to you.
Yes, a new one, I'll keep my eyes peeled for the post man, cheers.

Jagmanv12

1,573 posts

164 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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PurpleMoonlight said:
rambo19 said:
ging84 said:
Jagmanv12 said:
Another cock up by a government department. They just don't think things through.

MID is not foolproof or immediate. It can take up to 7 days for an insurance company to submit blah blah blah
have you tax a car recently

the insurance requirement has already been removed
Really?
Why wouldn't they?

They let you buy the tax without insurance evidence, and then check 7 days later and can find none so fine you for having a taxed uninsured vehicle.

Win. Win.
Yes I taxed last month at the post office. I was surprised they didn't seem to check anything online - insurance and MOT.

DVLA website says you must have insurance but issues discs without checking insurance is in place!! As you say a good moneyspinner.

Just a thought. Maybe they realise the MID is not foolproof so don't bother checking.

Andyuk911

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1,979 posts

209 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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Caution, the law has changed regarding insurance as you now MUST have continuous insurance in place. So DVLA can easily check every car that is not SORNed and send a warning/penalty fine.

This thread was actually about no longer having to display a tax disc and the general public potentially report untaxed cars ... hence I bet it will cause confusion...

TwigtheWonderkid

43,375 posts

150 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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DUMBO100 said:
Oh bugger mine expires on the 1/7/14 so I guess I'll need to get a small one to cover me until October.
No, you'll have to get an annual one to cover you until July 15. But you can take it out of your window on 1 oct.

BritishRacinGrin

24,703 posts

160 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
DUMBO100 said:
Oh bugger mine expires on the 1/7/14 so I guess I'll need to get a small one to cover me until October.
No, you'll have to get an annual one to cover you until July 15. But you can take it out of your window on 1 oct.
...and therefore pay for the month of October twice. Thd bds!

Andyuk911

Original Poster:

1,979 posts

209 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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BRG ???

Nothing has changed ... it is just you don't have to display anything in your wind screen from 1st October 2014 ...

CasuallyDressed

73 posts

134 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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So after Oct 1st do we still get paper discs but just don't have to display them? Or is it computerised and the plod can check our tax when they check our reg?

Mine expires in 10 days so will have a paper disc anyway but assume I can remove it in October?

Andyuk911

Original Poster:

1,979 posts

209 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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No paper disc from 1st will be issued.

If you have a disc, you don't have to display after 1st October.

Police can check Insurance/MOT/Road Tax electronically

I'll bet there will be numptys who think they don't need road tax anymore, and of course they will be receiving fines in the post ..

aw51 121565

4,771 posts

233 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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Andyuk911 said:
Regards the new RK having to "tax the vehicle immediately" - just because it's on a dot gov webpage doesn't mean it's true (or a legal requirement).

I seem to recall that the 'proposals' for this comedy scheme included 14 days' grace for the new keeper to purchase back-dated tax? confused

I'm not going to try to find this bit of the legislation to check if there will be 14 days' grace, I have better things to do (like posting this rubbish hehe ).

If taxation is required immediately upon purchase (with no 14 days' grace), then surely it will be cancelled as soon as the RK is changed (as SORN is wink )??? Now that would be an oversight of Titanic proportions!!! rofl

y2blade

56,106 posts

215 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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At last.....I don't display anyway

TwigtheWonderkid

43,375 posts

150 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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BritishRacinGrin said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
DUMBO100 said:
Oh bugger mine expires on the 1/7/14 so I guess I'll need to get a small one to cover me until October.
No, you'll have to get an annual one to cover you until July 15. But you can take it out of your window on 1 oct.
...and therefore pay for the month of October twice. Thd bds!
Oh ffs!

It's amazing how such a simple thing can be so misunderstood. Heaven help us all if they ever introduce a complex change to the system.

Andyuk911

Original Poster:

1,979 posts

209 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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Off you go boys ....tongue out

https://www.vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/

I do tease, easy to know make if you are looking at it/ plan to buy etc

alangla

4,796 posts

181 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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Blackpuddin said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Blackpuddin said:
I nearly bought a tax disc holder for my bike on the weekend before some kindly gent waiting to pay for his stuff pointed this out to me. Saved me a tenner. Wondered why they were on discount.
Jesus wept. What kind of tax disc holder is discounted to a tenner...? I'd want the disc included...
One that started out at £16.99. It was quite a nice one, but I take your point.
They've got other uses though - I got a very nice magnetic metal Mountune one when I got my Fiesta tuned, but didn't fit it because I didn't want the car spending the rest of its life with an empty metal ring stuck to the screen. The crappy dealer supplied vinyl one can stay on till October. Anyway, the Mountune one is perfect as a coaster & that's exactly what it's used as!

Timbergiant

995 posts

130 months

Saturday 21st June 2014
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Tax disc arrived today, ah well empty windscreen was nice while it lasted.