From 1 October 2014, the paper tax disc will no longer need

From 1 October 2014, the paper tax disc will no longer need

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Terminator X

15,085 posts

204 months

Saturday 21st June 2014
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mcflurry said:
With the large number of modern cars costing £30 or less to tax, due to their miraculous 119grams of carbon, I wonder how the gubberment will spend the £2.50 difference (minus the cost of their stamps) wink
Remind us how many cars are on the road?

TX.

Who me ?

7,455 posts

212 months

Saturday 21st June 2014
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I'm wondering how this will impact on the "home" (as from front garden and parked on a street/in layby) sellers. Will DVLA cancel any VED cert on sale of the vehicle ,making the vehicle need SORN ,and stop the home sellers from parking these cars on the road.

Roo

11,503 posts

207 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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As soon as DVLA receive notification of sale, the yellow slip, the VED is void.

Home traders are going to struggle a bit. The best they can hope for is that they sell the car before DVLA catches up with its paperwork.

Garvin

5,171 posts

177 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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Car mags must be delighted - no more having to strip out/replace the tax disc before/after those photo shoots!

4rephill

5,041 posts

178 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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Timbergiant said:
Tax disc arrived today, ah well empty windscreen was nice while it lasted.
You can empty it again in 3 months and 8 days time!

I can't see why people have so much of a problem with having to display a disc (paying for it maybe, but displaying it?)

The only problem I ever had about displaying a tax disc was trying to get the damned thing into those round tax disc holders with the three cut-outs on the front face! - What a pain trying to gently roll the disc to slide it in!

The first two flaps always got your hopes up, but the third flap was always a pain! hehe


PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

157 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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4rephill said:
You can empty it again in 3 months and 8 days time!

I can't see why people have so much of a problem with having to display a disc (paying for it maybe, but displaying it?)

The only problem I ever had about displaying a tax disc was trying to get the damned thing into those round tax disc holders with the three cut-outs on the front face! - What a pain trying to gently roll the disc to slide it in!

The first two flaps always got your hopes up, but the third flap was always a pain! hehe
It's got nothing to so with the public failing to display. It's to save the Government the cost of producing and issuing the disc and they have thought up a clever wheeze to get an extra months fee when a car changes hands. So much for them promising no underhand taxes huh....

Andyuk911

Original Poster:

1,979 posts

209 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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As aside, traffic wardens often took pictures of tax discs, to prove the actual car parked.

All those 'cloned' reports will flood in Ha Ha

4rephill

5,041 posts

178 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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PurpleMoonlight said:
It's got nothing to so with the public failing to display. It's to save the Government the cost of producing and issuing the disc and they have thought up a clever wheeze to get an extra months fee when a car changes hands. So much for them promising no underhand taxes huh....
My comment about people having a problem with having to pay for the tax disc was actually about the ever increasing cost of it rather than people failing to display.

The vast majority of people pay for their road fund licence every year but do so begrudgingly and then moan about how much it is costing them. (Of course, some owners of older cars get to gloat that their gas guzzler costs a third of what it costs for a modern equivalent, and owners of cars old enough get to gloat that they pay nothing at all!)



Chipmunk1

1,314 posts

162 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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The worst part of all this is what if you get stopped by a less then helpful / less then knowledgable BiB, what a nightmare that will be !

Can see many owners getting fines and impounded cars over this, plus those car tax fine ANPR things will be running overtime with fines

Cliftonite

8,410 posts

138 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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4rephill said:
My comment about people having a problem with having to pay for the tax disc was actually about the ever increasing cost of it rather than people failing to display.

The vast majority of people pay for their road fund licence every year < snip > and owners of cars old enough get to gloat that they pay nothing at all!)
wavey

Mojooo

12,725 posts

180 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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As far as I can work out, if I car a 2nd hand car from a private seller

I will now always need to factor in paying tax.

I can do it straight away -24/7 on the web or phone (was a faff before when you had to take documents down to PO so not a bad thing as such)

I presume the way around double taxing is that you put the changeover of the v5 in when the old tax is about to run out? I doubt many peopel will go for that as it might mean tax changeover 3 months after the car is sold.

As far as I can work out though - if I buy a car and just drive it hoem as long as I have insurance it is fine because the paper to send off to change owner details is not yet sent by the seller (i.e vehicle is still in their name and I am using their tax) - it is only when the paper gets to DVLA does the tax get cut off (i.e when chnage of registered keeper occurs).

I presume change of registered keeper doe snot happen instantly if you call the tax line.

Corbeliere

687 posts

119 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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I hope that the DVLA tell the rest of Europe about the change. Imagine trying to explain to the Gendarmes that it's not required anymore.

1878

821 posts

163 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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Why would the French police care?

George111

6,930 posts

251 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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1878 said:
Why would the French police care?
In EU you are supposed to have proof that you've paid vehicle tax in your country of origin . . . that used to be the tax disc. It will now have to be a print out from the web site you buy it from or a print of an e-mail.

Roo

11,503 posts

207 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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George111 said:
1878 said:
Why would the French police care?
In EU you are supposed to have proof that you've paid vehicle tax in your country of origin . . . that used to be the tax disc. It will now have to be a print out from the web site you buy it from or a print of an e-mail.
It just needs to be legal in its country of registration. Which from October means no disc to display, mainly due to DVLA no longer issuing them.

zeduffman

4,055 posts

151 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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I bet VED bands will all go up "just £5 per month" next year with this in place.

Mound Dawg

1,915 posts

174 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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I bought a load of tax disc holders as freebie giveaways a while ago. Got rid of most of them now (in the nick of time)!

Bad news for the guy who makes them though. His business has just gone down the toilet.

Classic cars are going to look a bit odd with no disc though, wonder if there's a business opportunity for someone to print retro ones to suit the age of the car?

Cliftonite

8,410 posts

138 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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Mound Dawg said:
I bought a load of tax disc holders as freebie giveaways a while ago. Got rid of most of them now (in the nick of time)!

Bad news for the guy who makes them though. His business has just gone down the toilet.

Classic cars are going to look a bit odd with no disc though, wonder if there's a business opportunity for someone to print retro ones to suit the age of the car?
Highly recommended - has appeared on PH before :

www.poplargreg.com

I am a well impressed customer.


George111

6,930 posts

251 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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Roo said:
George111 said:
1878 said:
Why would the French police care?
In EU you are supposed to have proof that you've paid vehicle tax in your country of origin . . . that used to be the tax disc. It will now have to be a print out from the web site you buy it from or a print of an e-mail.
It just needs to be legal in its country of registration. Which from October means no disc to display, mainly due to DVLA no longer issuing them.
We know that, but you will still need to prove it's legal. The Italians and Germans are not going to be able to look it up on a computer yet, so a piece of paper will still be required. Or you might find your vehicle impounded until proof is provided, so best to have it with you.


Riley Blue

20,961 posts

226 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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George111 said:
Roo said:
George111 said:
1878 said:
Why would the French police care?
In EU you are supposed to have proof that you've paid vehicle tax in your country of origin . . . that used to be the tax disc. It will now have to be a print out from the web site you buy it from or a print of an e-mail.
It just needs to be legal in its country of registration. Which from October means no disc to display, mainly due to DVLA no longer issuing them.
We know that, but you will still need to prove it's legal. The Italians and Germans are not going to be able to look it up on a computer yet, so a piece of paper will still be required. Or you might find your vehicle impounded until proof is provided, so best to have it with you.
Are you seriously suggesting that Italian and German police check UK registered cars' tax discs? Pull the other one...