How to verify police search warrant
Discussion
Martin4x4 said:
s2bounce said:
Thank you for te replies, reason I ask is because it happened on a Sunday in the afternoon, so I guess they acted on some intelligence, but the person they were after does not live at my property. Magistrate signing out of warrant would explain why my local court can not find the magistrate named on the warrant.
That sounds seriously out of order to me, if magistrates hand them out like that, then looks like we've lost the entire point of having them at all.Nigel Worc's said:
He, (or she), may not have been up to anything.
Somebody residing at the address, (maybe an offspring, or even lodger), will certainly be suspected of being up to something.
A chap I know through work, a chap of Muslim persuasion, suffered this fate through anti terrorism stuff, he says he couldn't return to his home for several days.
Correct.Somebody residing at the address, (maybe an offspring, or even lodger), will certainly be suspected of being up to something.
A chap I know through work, a chap of Muslim persuasion, suffered this fate through anti terrorism stuff, he says he couldn't return to his home for several days.
My door was broken and house ransacked by the police. I rented it and they were looking for evidence of fraudulent activity by the landlords company which was registered to the address.
Martin4x4 said:
That sounds seriously out of order to me, if magistrates hand them out like that, then looks like we've lost the entire point of having them at all.
I could be wrong but I think it is more of a rubber stamping exercise these days. When I got raided, I went to the station to retrieve my stuff and was arrested and locked up. After 8 hours and my landlord showing up. It turns out company they were after was 200 miles away but with a similar name to my landlord's.
Poor. Wonder if the magistrate bothered to read anything.
La Liga said:
Martin, you have no idea of the info / intel so car say if anything is out of order.
ED209. Arrest warrants aren't taken to addresses like search ones.
Of course they can be, its not usual these days bu possible.ED209. Arrest warrants aren't taken to addresses like search ones.
In fact if it was an arrest warrant for none payment of fines the law used to be that you had to have it with you.
Eclassy said:
Correct.
My door was broken and house ransacked by the police. I rented it and they were looking for evidence of fraudulent activity by the landlords company which was registered to the address.
Shocking, police obtain warrant for address linked to company they are investigating.My door was broken and house ransacked by the police. I rented it and they were looking for evidence of fraudulent activity by the landlords company which was registered to the address.
Greendubber said:
Eclassy said:
Correct.
My door was broken and house ransacked by the police. I rented it and they were looking for evidence of fraudulent activity by the landlords company which was registered to the address.
Shocking, police obtain warrant for address linked to company they are investigating.My door was broken and house ransacked by the police. I rented it and they were looking for evidence of fraudulent activity by the landlords company which was registered to the address.
Eclassy said:
It turns out company they were after was 200 miles away but with a similar name to my landlord's.
...but it was the wrong address
Eclassy said:
Nigel Worc's said:
He, (or she), may not have been up to anything.
Somebody residing at the address, (maybe an offspring, or even lodger), will certainly be suspected of being up to something.
A chap I know through work, a chap of Muslim persuasion, suffered this fate through anti terrorism stuff, he says he couldn't return to his home for several days.
Correct.Somebody residing at the address, (maybe an offspring, or even lodger), will certainly be suspected of being up to something.
A chap I know through work, a chap of Muslim persuasion, suffered this fate through anti terrorism stuff, he says he couldn't return to his home for several days.
My door was broken and house ransacked by the police. I rented it and they were looking for evidence of fraudulent activity by the landlords company which was registered to the address.
ED209 said:
La Liga said:
Martin, you have no idea of the info / intel so car say if anything is out of order.
ED209. Arrest warrants aren't taken to addresses like search ones.
Of course they can be, its not usual these days bu possible.ED209. Arrest warrants aren't taken to addresses like search ones.
In fact if it was an arrest warrant for none payment of fines the law used to be that you had to have it with you.
Greendubber said:
I'll put it on the list of horrific things that have happened to eclassy list then.
They obtained a warrant which needs the information and intelligence to be specifically developed and checked, yet managed to mistake it for a company which was outside their Constabulary (and probably several away), 200 miles away and with the wrong name. Plus it also had to be a criminal level of fraud for a company (ltd?) which are specialist investigations which tend to be reasonably developed and by people who can navigate around company structures. And Eclassy coincidentally had the same / related property they were looking for whilst executing a warrant to look for things in connection with corporate fraud, and was arrested even though his name wouldn't really have been linked to anything. All the wrongs by the police unto this man are staggering.
Nigel Worc's said:
Do they apologise and foot the bill for damage caused, or is it just "up yours, the computer says yes" ?
They gave me an address to write to but my landlord couldn't be bothered so he just fixed the door himself. They only apologized after I complained. I wasn't that much upset about being arrested although it has limited some of my life's choices. I started an application for Canadian Permanent Residency but seeing all the questions about 'brushes' with the law made me abandon the idea. I also have to apply for a visa when I am visiting the US.
My treatment after arrest was completely unacceptable. I was taunted whilst in custody and when I was released after 8 hours and even after realizing the error, not one person said sorry. When I went to collect my seized property, my money was missing and no one had any idea of what I was talking about as it wasn't on the property list.
I got my money back after 3 months after letters to my MP, the Commissioner of Police and a meeting with an Inspector.
The biggest disgrace was that it took 9 years for my police record to be deleted even though they admitted it was a case of mistaken identity from the get go.
Eclassy said:
Nigel Worc's said:
Do they apologise and foot the bill for damage caused, or is it just "up yours, the computer says yes" ?
They gave me an address to write to but my landlord couldn't be bothered so he just fixed the door himself. They only apologized after I complained. I wasn't that much upset about being arrested although it has limited some of my life's choices. I started an application for Canadian Permanent Residency but seeing all the questions about 'brushes' with the law made me abandon the idea. I also have to apply for a visa when I am visiting the US.
My treatment after arrest was completely unacceptable. I was taunted whilst in custody and when I was released after 8 hours and even after realizing the error, not one person said sorry. When I went to collect my seized property, my money was missing and no one had any idea of what I was talking about as it wasn't on the property list.
I got my money back after 3 months after letters to my MP, the Commissioner of Police and a meeting with an Inspector.
The biggest disgrace was that it took 9 years for my police record to be deleted even though they admitted it was a case of mistaken identity from the get go.
That is very sad, and to be honest, very worrying.
In that case you were completely innocent, yet the Police mess up has altered how you are percieved by others.
Nigel Worc's said:
Hmm, so largely up yours, or up ours then it would seem.
Are you reading the same letter? It provides an address to obtain compensation for the damage caused. The landlord then made the choice not to bother. Nigel Worc's said:
In that case you were completely innocent, yet the Police mess up has altered how you are percieved by others.
Was it a mess up? The third paragraph seems to suggest not. I noted the letter says "identical" as oppose to Eclassy's "similar" when describing the company names. An arrest / investigation where someone is 'found' innocent should not impact on international travel, but they're not our rules.
La Liga said:
Nigel Worc's said:
Hmm, so largely up yours, or up ours then it would seem.
Are you reading the same letter? It provides an address to obtain compensation for the damage caused. The landlord then made the choice not to bother. Nigel Worc's said:
In that case you were completely innocent, yet the Police mess up has altered how you are percieved by others.
Was it a mess up? I noted the letter says "identical" as oppose to Eclassy's "similar" when describing the company names. It also essentially says the powers used were wholly reasonable given the circumstances and required an investigation to conclude he was innocent.
An arrest / investigation where someone is 'found' innocent should not impact on international travel, but they're not our rules.
I think it is down to other countries requiring some proof before arrest, and sadly our police don't seem to.
And of course it says the powers are reasonable, anyone with the power will think that !
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