Psuedo German number plates

Psuedo German number plates

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hombrepaulo

1,088 posts

171 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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Yay! Another topic based on "I dont like such and such and therefore people who do are nobbers, tts etc"

AndrewEH1

4,917 posts

153 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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jaf01uk said:
I have 100% legal pressed steel number plates on my car, no 'D' just a Euro stars circle with a saltire underneath, let the judgemental amongst you proceed... tongue out
Where did you happen to buy these?

Cat

3,020 posts

269 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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NinjaPower said:
Hiding in plain sight.

Easier to spot, yes, but much much harder to get to the bottom of unless our officers have access to the Polish DVLA.
It is not particularly hard to get to the bottom of and there is no need to have access to the Polish equivalent of DVLA. If a RHD car is seen bearing Polish plates, it can be stopped and a PNC check carried out using the chassis number. This will show whether or not the car should be on UK plates.

Cat

jaf01uk

1,943 posts

196 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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AndrewEH1 said:
jaf01uk said:
I have 100% legal pressed steel number plates on my car, no 'D' just a Euro stars circle with a saltire underneath, let the judgemental amongst you proceed... tongue out
Where did you happen to buy these?
Got them on EBay from a seller called Norfolk Plates

Norfolk Plates

Rostfritt

3,098 posts

151 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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NinjaPower said:
Hiding in plain sight.

Easier to spot, yes, but much much harder to get to the bottom of unless our officers have access to the Polish DVLA.
I thought there was a system being put in to share this info over the whole of the EU. By law a car has to be road legal in the country it is from whenever traveling abroad.

I have seen a few RHD cars about with foreign plates which I would suspect have never been near the country they claim to be from.

Vaud

50,458 posts

155 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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NinjaPower said:
Some discussion on them here. I'm not fussed either way, I quite like pressed plates.

http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.p...

and

http://www.ukpoliceonline.co.uk/index.php?/topic/4...

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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Rostfritt said:
I have seen a few RHD cars about with foreign plates which I would suspect have never been near the country they claim to be from.
Well it's pretty cut and dried in the case of Polish plates because by law you cannot register a RHD car in Poland.

Which is why it amazes me that these cars are driving about.
Any Traffic officer worth a bean would pull one as soon he spotted it.

Vaud

50,458 posts

155 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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NinjaPower said:
Well it's pretty cut and dried in the case of Polish plates because by law you cannot register a RHD car in Poland.
That may well be changing:

http://www.europeanvoice.com/article/court-tells-p...

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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Vaud said:
NinjaPower said:
Well it's pretty cut and dried in the case of Polish plates because by law you cannot register a RHD car in Poland.
That may well be changing:

http://www.europeanvoice.com/article/court-tells-p...
I doubt that will get rushed through in a hurry... My polish mates reckon it would utterly desecrate the Polish vehicle market for the dealerships and traders, which is bad enough as it is.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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I bought pressed plates for my Audi a4 b5 quattro 1.8t as they looked good and the old plates were fading.

I bought 'Audi sport' surrounds as well and i hope they were fully legal, they looked good and better than a personalised plate for me at least, but each to their own.

Rostfritt

3,098 posts

151 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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NinjaPower said:
I doubt that will get rushed through in a hurry... My polish mates reckon it would utterly desecrate the Polish vehicle market for the dealerships and traders, which is bad enough as it is.
I doubt that would be a massive problem, they do have Germany on their doorstep which is a huge source of 2nd hand LHD cars. Interesting the link mentions Lithuania, I sold a car a few years back to a Lithuanian who said he would drive it back and sell it for a profit. To be fair quite a few of our 2nd hand cars end up quite far away, I have seen some in Kyrgyzstan of all places.

23rdian

387 posts

163 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Anything that's got the potential to disrupt the big brother ANPR CCTV state has to be a good thing

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Cat said:
It is not particularly hard to get to the bottom of and there is no need to have access to the Polish equivalent of DVLA. If a RHD car is seen bearing Polish plates, it can be stopped and a PNC check carried out using the chassis number. This will show whether or not the car should be on UK plates.
Nope. It'll show if there's an export flag on the DVLA record, but having that doesn't mean it's been imported somewhere else, nor does not having it mean it hasn't been imported to somewhere else. Plus, of course, not all RHD cars have been UK registered.

Cat

3,020 posts

269 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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TooMany2cvs said:
Nope. It'll show if there's an export flag on the DVLA record, but having that doesn't mean it's been imported somewhere else, nor does not having it mean it hasn't been imported to somewhere else. Plus, of course, not all RHD cars have been UK registered.
Sorry but you've just made up a whole new set of circumstances to what was originally mentioned. The scenario mentioned was buying a UK vehicle then simply removing the number plate and tax disc and putting a Polish plate on. No mention of informing the DVLA that the vehicle was being exported nor that the vehicle had been imported. In the scenario described a check of the chassis number on PNC will show that the vehicle should be bearing a UK plate.

Cat

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

233 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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if you suspect the Polish reg isn't 'real' check for the hologram numberplate sticker in the window, Polish registered cars must have that, AFAIK

Rostfritt

3,098 posts

151 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Hugo a Gogo said:
if you suspect the Polish reg isn't 'real' check for the hologram numberplate sticker in the window, Polish registered cars must have that, AFAIK
Do the police and traffic wardens know all of these particular rules for every EU (and to that matter non-EU) car they could come across? I know a Guernsey car driving around that used to have an insurance sticker in the window, until it expired.

xjsdriver

1,071 posts

121 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Cat said:
It is not particularly hard to get to the bottom of and there is no need to have access to the Polish equivalent of DVLA. If a RHD car is seen bearing Polish plates, it can be stopped and a PNC check carried out using the chassis number. This will show whether or not the car should be on UK plates.

Cat
There again, the car could've been first bought and registered here then shipped over to Poland and re-registered, same applies for any other country. I often have a look at ebay.de - just search for rechtslenker fahrzeug and see if anything takes my fancy.......

V8forweekends

2,481 posts

124 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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RedWhiteMonkey said:
I've got them on my car, although I do live in Germany.
laugh

Cat

3,020 posts

269 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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xjsdriver said:
There again, the car could've been first bought and registered here then shipped over to Poland and re-registered, same applies for any other country.
If that is what has happened and it has been done properly then the vehicle will have an export marker on PNC. However, once again, that is not the scenario which NinjaPower referred to.

Others have suggested that the Polish authorities will not allow a RHD vehicle to be registered in Poland so in the case of a RHD car bearing Polish plates it would seem unlikely to have happened as you describe.

Cat