"You're a pig and your breath stinks of bacon"

"You're a pig and your breath stinks of bacon"

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wildcat45

8,056 posts

188 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Eclassy said:
Or maybe just simply profiling e.g nice car in rundown neighbourhood, rundown car in nice neighbourhood, DWB e.t.c.

The chap in the videos below is a well known artist on the British hip hop/grime scene. Well spoken chap with a degree and doing good for himself, doesnt drink or smoke and has never been in trouble with the police/law. For some reason he is getting stopped 3 times a month by police forces in different areas.

Profiling? Maybe not. It could be that purple t shirt in a black car.

http://youtu.be/1BlwfG34oo0

http://youtu.be/p8e5XVUUi8I

http://youtu.be/7j-ttHe25WM

http://youtu.be/pHUJ_UJrWgc

http://youtu.be/5lQox9pnoTA
The third video reminds me of the line from that song "Police Officer" by the late Smiley Culture.

"Did you write that record "Cockney Translator?" My kids love it and so des my mother."


Eclassy

1,201 posts

121 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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wildcat45 said:
The third video reminds me of the line from that song "Police Officer" by the late Smiley Culture.
How ironic he 'died' during contact with the police.

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Eclassy said:
wildcat45 said:
The third video reminds me of the line from that song "Police Officer" by the late Smiley Culture.
How ironic he 'died' during contact with the police.
'Died' doesn't need placing in apostrophes, since there's no ambiguity he did indeed die. His criminal justice research was thorough, though. He was dedicated enough to get himself a Crown Court trial for dealing class A.

0000

13,812 posts

190 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Elroy Blue said:
I can think of many words for him. Reasonable certainly isn't one of them.

The sooner body worn cameras are rolled out to everybody the better. Then all these "Who me, I didn't do anything. You're making it up", will be shown up for the lying trolls they are.
You think he's done something to warrant 70 stops with no further action taken only because they didn't have cameras?

QuantumTokoloshi

4,161 posts

216 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Poor play by the police, Wishy washy attempt at a stop. Do it or leave it. The pork mobile comment did make me laugh, and I previously had pork breathe.

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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rumpelstiltskin said:
What? Doesn't this sum up the main reason most of the British public hate the police? Isn't this all they ever do?
Where are you drawing that conclusion from, other than making it up?

All internal / external surveys place a greater (most a fair bit greater) than 50% trust / confidence in the police which gives pretty clear indication that "most" (greater than 50%) don't hate the police.



Snowboy

8,028 posts

150 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Outside of the internet I don't know anyone who hates the police.
Or doesn't trust the police.

I know a few who don't like speed cameras or are still angry that a copper once told them off for being a drunk cock.

But, outside of petty stuff I don't know anyone who doesn't like and trust the police.

Oh, except for a few old acquaintances who hate the police because they got arrested for breaking into cars. I'm not sure their opinions are valid though. smile

Motorrad

6,811 posts

186 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Eclassy said:
Or maybe just simply profiling e.g nice car in rundown neighbourhood, rundown car in nice neighbourhood, DWB e.t.c.

The chap in the videos below is a well known artist on the British hip hop/grime scene. Well spoken chap with a degree and doing good for himself, doesnt drink or smoke and has never been in trouble with the police/law. For some reason he is getting stopped 3 times a month by police forces in different areas.

Profiling? Maybe not. It could be that purple t shirt in a black car.

http://youtu.be/1BlwfG34oo0

http://youtu.be/p8e5XVUUi8I

http://youtu.be/7j-ttHe25WM

http://youtu.be/pHUJ_UJrWgc

http://youtu.be/5lQox9pnoTA
That gentleman has nothing whatsoever to do with our friend in the first video, 'Mr Bacon' we'll call him. biggrin


Eclassy

1,201 posts

121 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Motorrad said:
That gentleman has nothing whatsoever to do with our friend in the first video, 'Mr Bacon' we'll call him. biggrin
Of course not. I referenced JME's story as part of an answer to someone who said maybe Mr Bacon came in contact with police so often because he was a smart acensorede.

JME's videos and the reference to Stuart Lawrence was to explain that many ordinary and law abiding people are unfairly targeted by the police.

There surely can be no justification for the police to continuosly stop the same person on average 3 times a month. The police could be execused if these were intelligence led stops or traffic violation stops but no they are not. They are 'random' stops of a peaceful and law abiding citizen for ridiculous reasons.

Not everyone has the patience of a high school teacher and would remain as calm as JME after amassing 75 stop and search slips.

Maybe, just maybe Mr Bacon is one of this unfairly targeted demographic and he has had enough.

Vipers

32,801 posts

227 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Motorrad said:
Eclassy said:
Or maybe just simply profiling e.g nice car in rundown neighbourhood, rundown car in nice neighbourhood, DWB e.t.c.

The chap in the videos below is a well known artist on the British hip hop/grime scene. Well spoken chap with a degree and doing good for himself, doesnt drink or smoke and has never been in trouble with the police/law. For some reason he is getting stopped 3 times a month by police forces in different areas.

Profiling? Maybe not. It could be that purple t shirt in a black car.

http://youtu.be/1BlwfG34oo0

http://youtu.be/p8e5XVUUi8I

http://youtu.be/7j-ttHe25WM

http://youtu.be/pHUJ_UJrWgc

http://youtu.be/5lQox9pnoTA
That gentleman has nothing whatsoever to do with our friend in the first video, 'Mr Bacon' we'll call him. biggrin
Watched some of the other links on the you tube link, we have so many people out there who seem to spend all their day looking for confrontation just so they can post their ste,........




smile

Motorrad

6,811 posts

186 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Eclassy said:
Of course not. I referenced JME's story as part of an answer to someone who said maybe Mr Bacon came in contact with police so often because he was a smart acensorede.

JME's videos and the reference to Stuart Lawrence was to explain that many ordinary and law abiding people are unfairly targeted by the police.

There surely can be no justification for the police to continuosly stop the same person on average 3 times a month. The police could be execused if these were intelligence led stops or traffic violation stops but no they are not. They are 'random' stops of a peaceful and law abiding citizen for ridiculous reasons.

Not everyone has the patience of a high school teacher and would remain as calm as JME after amassing 75 stop and search slips.

Maybe, just maybe Mr Bacon is one of this unfairly targeted demographic and he has had enough.
I'm the only one who mentioned 'smart arse' and it was more about the perception I'm sure the police have of him rather than any personal opinion of my own.

Reading between the lines and looking at other videos of Mr Bacon's it would appear he rather enjoys the game of cat and mouse he's playing with the law enforcement community.

I agree with wholeheartedly with your points about profiling having been a victim of it myself BTW.

TOV!E

2,016 posts

233 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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dacouch said:
I'm guessing he was not forcibly removed or tazered etc etc was due to the incident being filmed.

Feel free to call me a cynic
Not a cynic at all, if no camera there he would have surely got a good kicking.

TOV!E

2,016 posts

233 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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dacouch said:
I'm guessing he was not forcibly removed or tazered etc etc was due to the incident being filmed.

Feel free to call me a cynic
Not a cynic at all, if no camera there he would have surely got a good kicking.

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

127 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Only managed 3 of Eclassless's attempt at propaganda...all the videos to me, show professional officers, essentially doing their job. They explain themselves well (perhaps less so the second one) but sufficiently. I don't see ANY searches, but I do see lawful stop checks, which would have required nothing but S.163.
The author doesn't actually even seem that vexed at being stopped and clearly even quite enjoys the third encounter. But keep trying Eclass. I commend your resilience.

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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It couldn't be possible 'YouTuber' deliberately instigates these stops for some benefit (hits on YouTube), could it? His version must be absolute truth.

The one experience I have on this subject is a young man kept getting stopped whilst driving. He was 17 but looked like he was 12. He got stopped quite a few times until officers knew him / an email was sent around.



Elroy Blue

8,686 posts

191 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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0000 said:
You think he's done something to warrant 70 stops with no further action taken only because they didn't have cameras?
Here's a bit of a wake up call. Some people deliberately goad and put themselves in a position that will result in a stop. I know a few in my area. They can then complain and be the professional 'victim'. The local rags love it.

xjsdriver

1,071 posts

120 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Elroy Blue said:
0000 said:
You think he's done something to warrant 70 stops with no further action taken only because they didn't have cameras?
Here's a bit of a wake up call. Some people deliberately goad and put themselves in a position that will result in a stop. I know a few in my area. They can then complain and be the professional 'victim'. The local rags love it.
Upon viewing all 5 of JME's clips, I'd have to ask - where does he act as if he is goading the police, prior to his stop? I'd say he is getting targeted for being young, black and in a nice car (it can't be his car, can it? type of mentality going on there.....) Please feel free to educate me if I missed any prescient points in each of the 5 video clips.

daveky

148 posts

141 months

Sunday 27th July 2014
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SV8Predator said:
Why should he be Tazered?
I dunno perhaps because it looks like he lives in a stiggy area. These places are full of benefits low life for a reason.

turbobloke

103,748 posts

259 months

Sunday 27th July 2014
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Lost soul said:
Motorrad said:
As for the rest of it I imagine it gets annoying being stopped by the police if it happens frequently..
Why would it happen frequently
When I worked in London and had a weekday pied-a-terre in Guildford, I would get stopped on a regular basis travelling home to the SW on Friday night and back on Sunday night, the reason seemed to be the time of my journeys being around midnight, a non-local address for the registered keeper and police boredom.

TC99

119 posts

122 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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daveky said:
I dunno perhaps because it looks like he lives in a stiggy area. These places are full of benefits low life for a reason.
What a moronic post.