Number Plate Format
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Pothole said:
lah blah blah, none of that supports your serious allegation against your local constabulary, does it? Why not just admit you're pissed off with yourself for being cheap and lazy and stop trying to make excuses for same? You got done for stupidity.
My local constabulary officer is extremely thankful for not making a formal complaint against the officer and has offered to call the relevant people to try and resolve the issue to show his appreciationAMDHIL said:
Pothole said:
lah blah blah, none of that supports your serious allegation against your local constabulary, does it? Why not just admit you're pissed off with yourself for being cheap and lazy and stop trying to make excuses for same? You got done for stupidity.
My local constabulary officer is extremely thankful for not making a formal complaint against the officer and has offered to call the relevant people to try and resolve the issue to show his appreciationIs this a new plotline for an episode of "The Bill" or something?
AMDHIL said:
Pothole said:
lah blah blah, none of that supports your serious allegation against your local constabulary, does it? Why not just admit you're pissed off with yourself for being cheap and lazy and stop trying to make excuses for same? You got done for stupidity.
My local constabulary officer is extremely thankful for not making a formal complaint against the officer and has offered to call the relevant people to try and resolve the issue to show his appreciationSort yourself out, FFS!
Take your lumps, get a new compliant plate and go back to IT management (and God help anyone who has to work for you!)
Snowboy said:
AMDHIL said:
Pothole said:
lah blah blah, none of that supports your serious allegation against your local constabulary, does it? Why not just admit you're pissed off with yourself for being cheap and lazy and stop trying to make excuses for same? You got done for stupidity.
My local constabulary officer is extremely thankful for not making a formal complaint against the officer and has offered to call the relevant people to try and resolve the issue to show his appreciationIs this a new plotline for an episode of "The Bill" or something?
Why if it was your car was your company paying the fine?
Did you ever answer how you were issued the FPN and by whom?
Two people taking great risks over minor road traffic matters. Quite a sequence.
1) "Why are we stopping this summons?"
2) "Because some bloke has evidence of police dishonesty I didn't deal with correctly and covered up so I am doing him a favour by trying to stop this summons."
1) "OK, do you want me to write that on the paperwork?"
2) "Sure!"
AMDHIL said:
This does happen, I have in a separate incident been accused formally by a police officer and the only reason I was able to prove him wrong was with on board video footage. There are corrupt police officers and I was victimised for driving a nice car. I chose not to make a formal complaint because he had been in the force for 15 years with a clean record and he has a family
You managed to find an officer willing to pervert the course of justice, and in addition, found a more senior officer also willing to risk their career by not dealing with it in a manner in which they are obligated to. Two people taking great risks over minor road traffic matters. Quite a sequence.
AMDHIL said:
My local constabulary officer is extremely thankful for not making a formal complaint against the officer and has offered to call the relevant people to try and resolve the issue to show his appreciation
And now that same more senior officer is willing to again risk their career by stopping a formal process without justification, which will leave a permanent audit trail and continuous risk to that officer. You've sure found someone determined to end up sacked / in prison! It's amazing they are still in the job. 1) "Why are we stopping this summons?"
2) "Because some bloke has evidence of police dishonesty I didn't deal with correctly and covered up so I am doing him a favour by trying to stop this summons."
1) "OK, do you want me to write that on the paperwork?"
2) "Sure!"
AMDHIL said:
Hi
Ive been summoned to court due to the spacing on my number plate being 22mm in place of 33mm. This was spotted by an off duty police officer from the pavement whilst I was travelling at 40MPH whom reported me.
It all stems from this which I just find totally bizarre/unbelievable.Ive been summoned to court due to the spacing on my number plate being 22mm in place of 33mm. This was spotted by an off duty police officer from the pavement whilst I was travelling at 40MPH whom reported me.
Is it school holidays yet?
AMDHIL said:
Ok thanks for your help everyone, just managed to get a hold of my brother whom is barrista, he has advised me that considering the case was not brought to court within 6 months it will be thrown out of court.
Thanks for all your help guys, Ill hand this one over to little bro.
Why did you bother posting here in the first place? Thanks for all your help guys, Ill hand this one over to little bro.
Fun Bus said:
AMDHIL said:
Ok thanks for your help everyone, just managed to get a hold of my brother whom is barrista, he has advised me that considering the case was not brought to court within 6 months it will be thrown out of court.
Thanks for all your help guys, Ill hand this one over to little bro.
Why did you bother posting here in the first place? Thanks for all your help guys, Ill hand this one over to little bro.
Fun Bus said:
AMDHIL said:
Ok thanks for your help everyone, just managed to get a hold of my brother whom is barrista, he has advised me that considering the case was not brought to court within 6 months it will be thrown out of court.
Thanks for all your help guys, Ill hand this one over to little bro.
Why did you bother posting here in the first place? Thanks for all your help guys, Ill hand this one over to little bro.
Zammy said:
OP was just going to say the same, when you have access to a proper legal expert why ask on here? Just take your bro's advice and hope it all get's sorted without a fuss.
Maybe because his brother's advice is crap, based on what a highly qualified solicitor specialising in motoring law has just posted.I find this a rather improbable sequence. Does anyone else think the same or is it just me?
I think this is chronological:
1) OP is driving his nice car. He is stopped by a police officer who is motivated by jealously (OP has been critical of people making assumptions, I presume he wouldn't do the same thing and has actual evidence that this is the case). The police officer, presumably, is so overcome with jealously of a car in which early models are £25k or less, he decides it's a good day to 'fit-up' the OP and pervert the course of justice. What does the risk of losing his job, going to prison, having a major conviction and risking his family compare to 'fitting someone up' for a minor road traffic matter? Would a police officer would never consider a camera / dash-mounted camera or consider recordings if intending to commit a life-sentence crime?
2) The OP has this recorded and takes it to see a more senior officer. Honesty and integrity misconduct is the most thoroughly investigated by the police and is very high-profile at the moment on a national basis due to things like 'pleb-gate', Hillsborough and the on-going developments around sexual offences. If presented with "irrefutable" evidence an officer were acting in a criminal manner, you'd be mad and wishing career suicide to cover it up. Managers know their obligations to report and investigate. They know the serious implications for not doing so.
3) An off-duty officer (who would bother) apparently spots millimetre distances between a legal registration plate and an illegal one on a car going past at 40 MPH and decides to do something about it.
4) Somehow an FPN gets issued to the OP and he is reported. No details about this key part.
5) The OP sends payment but somehow this isn't processed by the CTO, who process lots of penalties on a daily basis. They return the paperwork for a summons.
6) The OP's younger brother is a barrister who 30 or under 30 How likely and common are they 30 or under 30? Surely he'd be the first person to turn to. Surely he'd know the difference between when the 6 month period matters and when it doesn't. Police criminal justice units and magistrates' courts filter ones which are statute barred in my experience. Why would an officer wait several months to turn a declined conditional offer into a summons to risk is going statute barred? The same officer / officers who apparently have an agenda against the OP?
7) The same more senior officer, not satisfied with risking his career once, has decided to intervene and sort the issue. This officer is a part of the same organisation that's 'targeting' the OP. One one hand there's a jealous conspiracy, on the other they are willing to stop court proceedings because of a recording he has. Of course, since his frappuccino-creating brother has told him it's statute barred why would this even matter / need doing?
Sounds such a likely sequence of events...
I think this is chronological:
1) OP is driving his nice car. He is stopped by a police officer who is motivated by jealously (OP has been critical of people making assumptions, I presume he wouldn't do the same thing and has actual evidence that this is the case). The police officer, presumably, is so overcome with jealously of a car in which early models are £25k or less, he decides it's a good day to 'fit-up' the OP and pervert the course of justice. What does the risk of losing his job, going to prison, having a major conviction and risking his family compare to 'fitting someone up' for a minor road traffic matter? Would a police officer would never consider a camera / dash-mounted camera or consider recordings if intending to commit a life-sentence crime?
2) The OP has this recorded and takes it to see a more senior officer. Honesty and integrity misconduct is the most thoroughly investigated by the police and is very high-profile at the moment on a national basis due to things like 'pleb-gate', Hillsborough and the on-going developments around sexual offences. If presented with "irrefutable" evidence an officer were acting in a criminal manner, you'd be mad and wishing career suicide to cover it up. Managers know their obligations to report and investigate. They know the serious implications for not doing so.
3) An off-duty officer (who would bother) apparently spots millimetre distances between a legal registration plate and an illegal one on a car going past at 40 MPH and decides to do something about it.
4) Somehow an FPN gets issued to the OP and he is reported. No details about this key part.
5) The OP sends payment but somehow this isn't processed by the CTO, who process lots of penalties on a daily basis. They return the paperwork for a summons.
6) The OP's younger brother is a barrister who 30 or under 30 How likely and common are they 30 or under 30? Surely he'd be the first person to turn to. Surely he'd know the difference between when the 6 month period matters and when it doesn't. Police criminal justice units and magistrates' courts filter ones which are statute barred in my experience. Why would an officer wait several months to turn a declined conditional offer into a summons to risk is going statute barred? The same officer / officers who apparently have an agenda against the OP?
7) The same more senior officer, not satisfied with risking his career once, has decided to intervene and sort the issue. This officer is a part of the same organisation that's 'targeting' the OP. One one hand there's a jealous conspiracy, on the other they are willing to stop court proceedings because of a recording he has. Of course, since his frappuccino-creating brother has told him it's statute barred why would this even matter / need doing?
Sounds such a likely sequence of events...
La Liga said:
I find this a rather improbable sequence. Does anyone else think the same or is it just me?
I think this is chronological:
1) OP is driving his nice car. He is stopped by a police officer who is motivated by jealously (OP has been critical of people making assumptions, I presume he wouldn't do the same thing and has actual evidence that this is the case). The police officer, presumably, is so overcome with jealously of a car in which early models are £25k or less, he decides it's a good day to 'fit-up' the OP and pervert the course of justice. What does the risk of losing his job, going to prison, having a major conviction and risking his family compare to 'fitting someone up' for a minor road traffic matter? Would a police officer would never consider a camera / dash-mounted camera or consider recordings if intending to commit a life-sentence crime?
2) The OP has this recorded and takes it to see a more senior officer. Honesty and integrity misconduct is the most thoroughly investigated by the police and is very high-profile at the moment on a national basis due to things like 'pleb-gate', Hillsborough and the on-going developments around sexual offences. If presented with "irrefutable" evidence an officer were acting in a criminal manner, you'd be mad and wishing career suicide to cover it up. Managers know their obligations to report and investigate. They know the serious implications for not doing so.
3) An off-duty officer (who would bother) apparently spots millimetre distances between a legal registration plate and an illegal one on a car going past at 40 MPH and decides to do something about it.
4) Somehow an FPN gets issued to the OP and he is reported. No details about this key part.
5) The OP sends payment but somehow this isn't processed by the CTO, who process lots of penalties on a daily basis. They return the paperwork for a summons.
6) The OP's younger brother is a barrister who 30 or under 30 How likely and common are they 30 or under 30? Surely he'd be the first person to turn to. Surely he'd know the difference between when the 6 month period matters and when it doesn't. Police criminal justice units and magistrates' courts filter ones which are statute barred in my experience. Why would an officer wait several months to turn a declined conditional offer into a summons to risk is going statute barred? The same officer / officers who apparently have an agenda against the OP?
7) The same more senior officer, not satisfied with risking his career once, has decided to intervene and sort the issue. This officer is a part of the same organisation that's 'targeting' the OP. One one hand there's a jealous conspiracy, on the other they are willing to stop court proceedings because of a recording he has. Of course, since his frappuccino-creating brother has told him it's statute barred why would this even matter / need doing?
Sounds such a likely sequence of events...
No, you're forgetting the plate was on a different car when he was first warned. So not only was he too lazy to get a new one, he seemed happy to go through all the steps to transfer the plate across and not get a new one. Hence, I suggested the plate was one that when badly spaced made up a word which would have been desirable to the OP but very noticeable, clearly illegal and a reason why the OP did it. I posted this as a question. I've since been told that's farcical in comparison to being on a watch list while also on the Christmas card list of the police. I think this is chronological:
1) OP is driving his nice car. He is stopped by a police officer who is motivated by jealously (OP has been critical of people making assumptions, I presume he wouldn't do the same thing and has actual evidence that this is the case). The police officer, presumably, is so overcome with jealously of a car in which early models are £25k or less, he decides it's a good day to 'fit-up' the OP and pervert the course of justice. What does the risk of losing his job, going to prison, having a major conviction and risking his family compare to 'fitting someone up' for a minor road traffic matter? Would a police officer would never consider a camera / dash-mounted camera or consider recordings if intending to commit a life-sentence crime?
2) The OP has this recorded and takes it to see a more senior officer. Honesty and integrity misconduct is the most thoroughly investigated by the police and is very high-profile at the moment on a national basis due to things like 'pleb-gate', Hillsborough and the on-going developments around sexual offences. If presented with "irrefutable" evidence an officer were acting in a criminal manner, you'd be mad and wishing career suicide to cover it up. Managers know their obligations to report and investigate. They know the serious implications for not doing so.
3) An off-duty officer (who would bother) apparently spots millimetre distances between a legal registration plate and an illegal one on a car going past at 40 MPH and decides to do something about it.
4) Somehow an FPN gets issued to the OP and he is reported. No details about this key part.
5) The OP sends payment but somehow this isn't processed by the CTO, who process lots of penalties on a daily basis. They return the paperwork for a summons.
6) The OP's younger brother is a barrister who 30 or under 30 How likely and common are they 30 or under 30? Surely he'd be the first person to turn to. Surely he'd know the difference between when the 6 month period matters and when it doesn't. Police criminal justice units and magistrates' courts filter ones which are statute barred in my experience. Why would an officer wait several months to turn a declined conditional offer into a summons to risk is going statute barred? The same officer / officers who apparently have an agenda against the OP?
7) The same more senior officer, not satisfied with risking his career once, has decided to intervene and sort the issue. This officer is a part of the same organisation that's 'targeting' the OP. One one hand there's a jealous conspiracy, on the other they are willing to stop court proceedings because of a recording he has. Of course, since his frappuccino-creating brother has told him it's statute barred why would this even matter / need doing?
Sounds such a likely sequence of events...
He needs to keep off the espresso
AMDHIL said:
I have had no past issues!!!! the reason I spent 3k on evicting tenants legally as opposed to spending £100 on getting them physically kicked out to stay on the right side of the law (I mention this to show I'm a law abiding person)
Was £50 in an earlier quote.Someones pulling our pissers methinks!
Edited by leigh1050 on Friday 18th July 20:12
leigh1050 said:
AMDHIL said:
Your correct in that I was warned a long time ago on a different car
however i did not give them a piece of my mind I simply said in a very civil manner that had a valid reason for having the plate on
I have had no past issues!!!! the reason I spent 3k on evicting tenants legally as opposed to spending £100 on getting them physically kicked out to stay on the right side of the law (I mention this to show I'm a law abiding person)
Your jumping t conclusions again, yes I have my own business and a flash car, I didn't get it for free. I got it by working three jobs and 4 hours a sleep a day.
Im sorry but I wasn't asking for colombo to solve the case but I was simply asking a few questions based on the information I have provided. I have no reason to lie to the people on this forum as you guys cannot cancel the summons for me
Was £50 in an earlier quote.however i did not give them a piece of my mind I simply said in a very civil manner that had a valid reason for having the plate on
I have had no past issues!!!! the reason I spent 3k on evicting tenants legally as opposed to spending £100 on getting them physically kicked out to stay on the right side of the law (I mention this to show I'm a law abiding person)
Your jumping t conclusions again, yes I have my own business and a flash car, I didn't get it for free. I got it by working three jobs and 4 hours a sleep a day.
Im sorry but I wasn't asking for colombo to solve the case but I was simply asking a few questions based on the information I have provided. I have no reason to lie to the people on this forum as you guys cannot cancel the summons for me
Someones pulling our pissers methinks!
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