speeding fine but no points?
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dabofoppo said:
Hi all
A service user I work with has recieved a fine for 57 in a 40 the officers gave him a £100 fine but the bit in the form where the points go is empty. Does this mean he wont recieve any points?
Cheers
Police Officers cannot issue fines. Have they made him a conditional offer of a Fixed Penalty which will consist of £100 penalty and three points if he accepts it?A service user I work with has recieved a fine for 57 in a 40 the officers gave him a £100 fine but the bit in the form where the points go is empty. Does this mean he wont recieve any points?
Cheers
I was ticketed on the M74 a couple of years ago and they didn't fill in the points or the fine at the bottom of the pink slip. I didn't notice this and was going to cough up my £60 anyways (t'was a fair cop) but a letter came through from Strathclyde Police saying the offer was withdrawn and I was off the hook.
Not saying this will happen, but it certainly can.
Not saying this will happen, but it certainly can.
Had this recently also, £100 fine however no points issued in the box by mistake.
Take your ticket to the court/place of endorsement, do not present either part of your driving license and advise them the ticket is invalid.
They will photocopy the ticket and send it to Police HQ, approx 1 week later you will receive a letter from police outlining the ticket is invalid and no further action will be taken.
Take your ticket to the court/place of endorsement, do not present either part of your driving license and advise them the ticket is invalid.
They will photocopy the ticket and send it to Police HQ, approx 1 week later you will receive a letter from police outlining the ticket is invalid and no further action will be taken.
As indicated above, take the ticket to the local court and ask them if you can accept in light of the missing points. They will contact police who will normally drop the whole thing.
Reason behind this is that police can only issue tickets as authorised by law. Law for speeding is fine and points. This ticket is not in accordance with that, so ultra vires, and unable to be accepted. Police can go straight to court with it, but if they do then cop(s) get called to give evidence. Defence asks "Have you a good eye for detail ?" "Could you be mistaken about anything ?" "Do you make mistakes often ?". By this stage probably not going to convince the court of anything beyond reasonable doubt, so not guilty on the cards. Police know this and put a pen through it early to avoid all this.
Reason behind this is that police can only issue tickets as authorised by law. Law for speeding is fine and points. This ticket is not in accordance with that, so ultra vires, and unable to be accepted. Police can go straight to court with it, but if they do then cop(s) get called to give evidence. Defence asks "Have you a good eye for detail ?" "Could you be mistaken about anything ?" "Do you make mistakes often ?". By this stage probably not going to convince the court of anything beyond reasonable doubt, so not guilty on the cards. Police know this and put a pen through it early to avoid all this.
bobthebench said:
As indicated above, take the ticket to the local court and ask them if you can accept in light of the missing points. They will contact police who will normally drop the whole thing.
Reason behind this is that police can only issue tickets as authorised by law. Law for speeding is fine and points. This ticket is not in accordance with that, so ultra vires, and unable to be accepted. Police can go straight to court with it, but if they do then cop(s) get called to give evidence. Defence asks "Have you a good eye for detail ?" "Could you be mistaken about anything ?" "Do you make mistakes often ?". By this stage probably not going to convince the court of anything beyond reasonable doubt, so not guilty on the cards. Police know this and put a pen through it early to avoid all this.
Yes. You should go to court, as that will definitely happen Reason behind this is that police can only issue tickets as authorised by law. Law for speeding is fine and points. This ticket is not in accordance with that, so ultra vires, and unable to be accepted. Police can go straight to court with it, but if they do then cop(s) get called to give evidence. Defence asks "Have you a good eye for detail ?" "Could you be mistaken about anything ?" "Do you make mistakes often ?". By this stage probably not going to convince the court of anything beyond reasonable doubt, so not guilty on the cards. Police know this and put a pen through it early to avoid all this.
bobthebench said:
As indicated above, take the ticket to the local court and ask them if you can accept in light of the missing points. They will contact police who will normally drop the whole thing.
Reason behind this is that police can only issue tickets as authorised by law. Law for speeding is fine and points. This ticket is not in accordance with that, so ultra vires, and unable to be accepted. Police can go straight to court with it, but if they do then cop(s) get called to give evidence. Defence asks "Have you a good eye for detail ?" "Could you be mistaken about anything ?" "Do you make mistakes often ?". By this stage probably not going to convince the court of anything beyond reasonable doubt, so not guilty on the cards. Police know this and put a pen through it early to avoid all this.
I reckon you've got more chance of winning the Euromillions every time for the next 6 months, and having enough money to buy England from the Queen and having the law changed to prevent people from prosecuting for speeding. But if you're feeling lucky...Reason behind this is that police can only issue tickets as authorised by law. Law for speeding is fine and points. This ticket is not in accordance with that, so ultra vires, and unable to be accepted. Police can go straight to court with it, but if they do then cop(s) get called to give evidence. Defence asks "Have you a good eye for detail ?" "Could you be mistaken about anything ?" "Do you make mistakes often ?". By this stage probably not going to convince the court of anything beyond reasonable doubt, so not guilty on the cards. Police know this and put a pen through it early to avoid all this.
Simon.
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