Teenager gets criminal record for sexting pic of herself

Teenager gets criminal record for sexting pic of herself

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creampuff

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6,511 posts

143 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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fangio said:
And if your under-age daughter was sharing her naked body with the world, how would you feel? Would you know?
Well let's see. The choice is the teenage daughter shares her naked body via some electronic means and it doesn't turn out well, she gets embarrassed by it or the pic goes to people who she didn't intend it to go.

OR

The teenage daughter shares her naked body via some electronic means and it doesn't turn out well, she gets embarrassed by it or the pic goes to people who she didn't intend it to go. PLUS she ends up with a criminal record and 2 years on the Sex Offenders Register.

Which one do you think is preferable?

kowalski655

14,640 posts

143 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Snowboy said:
If anything, the boy should be punished.
Sending those pics to mates after they split up is wrong.

Not necessarily 'child abuse' wrong, but wrong based on revenge porn principles
I think there are laws coming in about it.

That said, a bit if boobage is quite mild in the grand scheme of things.
It would certainly be overkill to send the kid to jail or put him on the sex offenders register for it.
If the law applies to him then it has to apply to her too

Snowboy

8,028 posts

151 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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kowalski655 said:
If the law applies to him then it has to apply to her too
You've either misread my post or you don't understand the proposed laws around revenge porn. smile.

The revenge porn laws certainly wouldn't apply to her.

jesta1865

3,448 posts

209 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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lest be honest the how age thing in this country is mad, you can have sex at 16, get married and have babies, join the forces at 17 be given a gun and expected to fight for the country, get sent overseas away from the family (you had at 16) by a governement that you can't even vote out, as you have to be 18!

it's daft, and to criminalise the girl who sent it (naively thinking it private with her boyfriend) is just daft. have a go at the boy as it was a knobber thing to do, but she was just silly, don't put her on the sex offenders register for 2 years ffs.

mikeyr

3,118 posts

193 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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jesta1865 said:
she was just silly, don't put her on the sex offenders register for 2 years ffs.
Err ... they didn't. confused

And whilst it is an offence the general attitude was/is to educate them on the law in the majority of cases.


jesta1865

3,448 posts

209 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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mikeyr said:
jesta1865 said:
she was just silly, don't put her on the sex offenders register for 2 years ffs.
Err ... they didn't. confused

And whilst it is an offence the general attitude was/is to educate them on the law in the majority of cases.
sorry misread it, but the intimation is that she could have. bit of a sledgehammer to crack a nut i feel.

ewenm

28,506 posts

245 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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jesta1865 said:
sorry misread it, but the intimation is that she could have. bit of a sledgehammer to crack a nut i feel.
That's because it's a newspaper article so they have to go as sensationalist as possible. Reasonableness does not sell papers.

paintman

7,687 posts

190 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Unfortunately in the aftermath of Savile et al anything to do with children and matters of a sexual nature is going to be dealt with to the letter.
Discretion & sense out of the window to protect one's own back.

kowalski655

14,640 posts

143 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Snowboy said:
You've either misread my post or you don't understand the proposed laws around revenge porn. smile.

The revenge porn laws certainly wouldn't apply to her.
Not read the propsed laws but as it stands did she not do the same as him. I agree that his actions are way worse and even under * current * law he should have been punished more

carreauchompeur

17,846 posts

204 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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I think it HIGHLY unlikely anything will happen to her.

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

128 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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carreauchompeur said:
I think it HIGHLY unlikely anything will happen to her.
But it has? She's had a caution?

carreauchompeur

17,846 posts

204 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Mk3Spitfire said:
But it has? She's had a caution?
I stand corrected. What an utterly bonkers decision that I can't believe they put to the CPS.

can't remember

1,078 posts

128 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Mk3Spitfire said:
How about a 15 year old male, who gets a kick out of sending indecent images of himself to others?
You'll be okay if you're using a burner mobile, you don't do it from the same location regularly, and you haven't got a distinguishing mole or something.

Young adults/kids today have different experiences, moral standards and massively different means of communication to those that I had as a 15 year old. In this case the girl needs educating (show her the sites she's now on and will be for the rest of her life) and the boy needs to get a record.

glasgowrob

3,245 posts

121 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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absolutely crazy country we live in.


how can she still be classed as a minor (or him for that matter)

as already stated you could at 16 be married have a family a job, be paying tax serving in the armed forces



but you cant take naughty pics of yourself or your same aged other half or have a pint.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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glasgowrob said:
absolutely crazy country we live in.
It's the nature legislation has evolved over time with different views over those times. It does need sorting out to bring some rationality and consistency to the whole thing.

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

219 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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glasgowrob said:
absolutely crazy country we live in.

how can she still be classed as a minor (or him for that matter)

as already stated you could at 16 be married have a family a job, be paying tax serving in the armed forces

but you cant take naughty pics of yourself or your same aged other half or have a pint.
Agreed - It was barely more than a decade ago (and within the lifetime of these teenagers) that sexualised images of topless 16 and 17 year olds adorned the 3rd page of many red top 'newspapers'.

The authorities should choose an age at which people are considered adults and apply it consistently.....whether thats 16 or 18 or whatever.

can't remember

1,078 posts

128 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Moonhawk said:
Agreed - It was barely more than a decade ago (and within the lifetime of these teenagers) that sexualised images of topless 16 and 17 year olds adorned the 3rd page of many red top 'newspapers'.

The authorities should choose an age at which people are considered adults and apply it consistently.....whether thats 16 or 18 or whatever.
They had to have parental consent back then. The fact that the parents were scrotes with pound signs flashing before their eyes was unfortunate for the girls in question but a perfectly legal money earner for the parent/agent.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Moonhawk said:
The authorities should choose an age at which people are considered adults and apply it consistently.....whether thats 16 or 18 or whatever.
Technology quickly pushes legislation. The sexual offences act was conceived in 2002. So hardly ancient, but could those legislators reasonably foresee it being so common for people to "sext" each other, and that that this would even be a problem in 10 years' time? Not only that, but distribution being so easy.

onomatopoeia

3,469 posts

217 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Moonhawk said:
The authorities should choose an age at which people are considered adults and apply it consistently.....whether thats 16 or 18 or whatever.
It's even more difficult when it comes to medical treatment, which an under 16 can seek and obtain without the knowledge or consent of their parents / guardians.

Absolutely no way should that be made "consistent" at either 16 or 18 for obvious reasons. In case they aren't obvious, consider the situation of a pregnant 14 year old daughter of devout Catholics that wishes to terminate the pregnancy. Changing the law to a consistent age of 16 would mean her parents could force her to carry to term against her wishes. Whose body is it, anyway?

tbc

3,017 posts

175 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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I was on a bus not so long ago and at the back some woman was telling off two school girls no older than 14 or 15.

From what a gauged they appear to be shoving the camera on their mobiles up their skirts and sending the photos on snapchat or Facebook to male friends.

I'm relatively young and not a prude or shrinking violet but some of the stuff you would expect from 18 year olds 10 years ago when i was a teen is being done by 12-14 year olds.

Sending photos of tits and/or lady garden or your knob seems to be a trend in terms of getting one up on someone or an attempt to move up the popularity scale.