TFL Fine - Payment In Cash

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deanrufleg

Original Poster:

392 posts

256 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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I have a fine from TFL. Box junction, front wheel just in it.

I can't /won't dispute the offence. Am willing to pay full amount
of £65 in cash. They however don't accept cash.
Payment by card, cheque or Postal order. This was from a telephone conversation from someone from TFL.. I offered to pay in full, in cash, but he said they can't/won't accept it. I asked if I write in, will they write me a letter stating they
are refusing my payment. He said there is no reason why not....

Now, I have taken a stance not to use card/cheque any more, as I have had
fraudulent activity in my bank this year for thousands of pounds.
So to ensure this does not happen again I will not be using them.
Postal order for £65 will actually cost more than £65 with the post office fee, and as the fine
is only £65, that is all I am willing to pay.

I do believe cash is still legal tender; coin of the realm etc etc, and no offence is committed by spending it.
Is
There any advice furthere as to where this could go?
Over to the masses....

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

157 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Send then the cash in an envelope and see if they return it.

Bet they don't and bet they don't credit your fine either.


deanrufleg

Original Poster:

392 posts

256 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Can't do that as it states "do NOT" send cash in post.

That's fine - there advisory. So where can I pay it.
I can go and view video footage in Croydon, but they will almost certainly
not accept there...

williamp

19,243 posts

273 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Will they allow bank transfer? Its quick, safe and you can see its gone it as well.

williamp

19,243 posts

273 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Oh, this point was an only connect question a while back. To pay a fine, there are upper limits, above which they do not have to accept change. So althoug your money is still money, you cannot, say pay the £65 in 1p pieces. Its not written vy well, but I think this is it here:


http://www.royalmint.com/aboutus/policies-and-guid...

deanrufleg

Original Poster:

392 posts

256 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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^^^
Payment by card online.
Payment by card over the phone/automated.
Payment by post using card details/cheque/Postal order.
Do not send cash.

As I said, not refusing to pay. 4 crisp notes - 3x £20, and 1x£5....
Wonder if they will send Boris round on a bike to collect it....

Edited by deanrufleg on Thursday 24th July 15:19

mmm-five

11,235 posts

284 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Get a pre-pay debit/credit card, put £65 on it, and then use that to pay over the phone!

pork911

7,118 posts

183 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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do you only pay cash for all your bills now?

deanrufleg

Original Poster:

392 posts

256 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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pork911 said:
do you only pay cash for all your bills now?
Over the past 3 months, yes. I do/have.
Don't think I'm committing any offence by doing so.

ewenm

28,506 posts

245 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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mmm-five said:
Get a pre-pay debit/credit card, put £65 on it, and then use that to pay over the phone!
That must be the answer.

mcflurry

9,085 posts

253 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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deanrufleg said:
I have taken a stance not to use card/cheque any more, as I have had
fraudulent activity in my bank this year for thousands of pounds.
So to ensure this does not happen again I will not be using them.
The bank was defrauded, not you. If your cash is stolen on the other hand, then there's no comeback..

Is there a pay in slip so that you can take £65 to the bank, and pay it over the counter?

TheEnd

15,370 posts

188 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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It'd be more noble to pick your dummy back up and stop trying to be awkward to get your own back.

Monkeylegend

26,321 posts

231 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Out of interest how much does a £65 postal order actually cost?

Shaoxter

4,068 posts

124 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Even if you could, sending the cash by post would surely cost quite a bit (as you'd want recorded delivery). I think you should:

- Pay the fine by card
- Get your fraudulent activity investigated and refunded by the bank
- Don't enter your card details on dodgy websites
- Don't use your card in dodgy shops
- Stop whinging

You have way more consumer protection with credit cards than cash, and it's not like you're the one losing out if there's fraudulent activity.

Stoofa

958 posts

168 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Monkeylegend said:
Out of interest how much does a £65 postal order actually cost?
£73.12 total
http://www.postoffice.co.uk/postal-orders

btdk5

1,850 posts

190 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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A) Just get a bankers draft.

B) Stop being a child and order a card/cheque book from your bank.

deanrufleg

Original Poster:

392 posts

256 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Thank you for your measured response, as useless as it is.
Before you cast assertions over sod all you know about, maybe in future you should
think before replying.
For your information, back in February this year I used my debit card in a branch of a well known high st food shop.
That was the only time I used the card that day, and indeed in the small hours of the morning I had contact
from Barclays saying card had been suspended due to transactions for about £4k.
Hence my reluctance to use a card really.

Happy now?

It's a right royal PITA, having to go through all the grief sorting out such when I am supposed to be working.
Self employed, so if I don't work, I don't earn.



Shaoxter said:
Even if you could, sending the cash by post would surely cost quite a bit (as you'd want recorded delivery). I think you should:

- Pay the fine by card
- Get your fraudulent activity investigated and refunded by the bank
- Don't enter your card details on dodgy websites
- Don't use your card in dodgy shops
- Stop whinging

You have way more consumer protection with credit cards than cash, and it's not like you're the one losing out if there's fraudulent activity.

deanrufleg

Original Poster:

392 posts

256 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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TheEnd said:
It'd be more noble to pick your dummy back up and stop trying to be awkward to get your own back.
Why is it being awkward when one is offering to pay in cash? If that is what I choose to use as my everyday medium to pay for things? No dummy spat out. Indeed almost choked on it with your thought out response.
Good day.

zcacogp

11,239 posts

244 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Let's go back to the original (interesting) Q. Offering to pay a fine to a government body in the coin of the realm is not unreasonable, and I wonder if refusal is lawful? Can anyone shed any light?


Oli.

walm

10,609 posts

202 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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deanrufleg said:
In the small hours of the morning I had contact from Barclays saying card had been suspended due to transactions for about £4k.
Hence my reluctance to use a card really.

Happy now?
Not really.
Did you get the money back?
If not - why not?
If so - what's the problem.

We all have personal admin to sort out that takes time away from work/family/fapping/other hobbies.

I am pretty confident that paying for everything in cash rather than a card is adding more to your burden than sucking up the risk of being defrauded again.

Have you heard of the internet? It's quite a big deal.
Sometimes ordering items online can save you both time and money.
Unfortunately you can't buy those things with cash.

So, in short, you are bonkers!!

(Good luck with sticking it to the man though - I hate TFL.)