TFL Fine - Payment In Cash

[adamfawsitt]

I too think the questions an interesting one - please let us know how this turns out, if you can inconvenience TFL and overcome what appear to be ridiculous rules then good for you!

[sugerbear]

deanrufleg said:

Internet? Yes. I have. I'm on it now....
Was working over in Tooting at the time.
Yes I got the money back.

New card, used a week later. Same high St, same food store, different branch.
Same thing happened again for a smaller amount.
Hence my then sticking 2 fingers up and thinking I'll stick to using cash.
The only risk I then have is not being a target for fraud, but getting mugged.

Bizarrely, shops still accept cash but, they sometimes looked shocked when you
produce it...

walm said:

deanrufleg said:

In the small hours of the morning I had contact from Barclays saying card had been suspended due to transactions for about £4k.
Hence my reluctance to use a card really.

Happy now?

Not really.
Did you get the money back?
If not - why not?
If so - what's the problem.

We all have personal admin to sort out that takes time away from work/family/fapping/other hobbies.

I am pretty confident that paying for everything in cash rather than a card is adding more to your burden than sucking up the risk of being defrauded again.

Have you heard of the internet? It's quite a big deal.
Sometimes ordering items online can save you both time and money.
Unfortunately you can't buy those things with cash.

So, in short, you are bonkers!!

(Good luck with sticking it to the man though - I hate TFL.)

Just throwing a curve ball here, you do know that not all cards are the same. Have you tried a different bank / provider / scheme ?

Also if this happened to me I wouldn't be going back to the merchant again and I certainly wouldn't be using a card machine that had the capability to read the magnetic stripe on the back of the card (which really is the only effective way to clone a chip card).

[bigee]

Mr Classic said:

Shops can refuse to accept cash for goods before you have received them, but cannot refuse to accept it (no matter what the denomination) if you have already received the goods (i.e a haircut or dinner).

I understand that,but as I posted previously,this is not about a transaction whereby an offer is made to sell something AND the payment terms offered therein,in this scenario you could obviously refuse the offer to purchase if you did not agree with the terms offered. TFL have apparently refused to accept cash. Can they legally do this? Sure they will be full of bluster etc,but legally ?

[mph1977]

Mr Classic said:

Shops can refuse to accept cash for goods before you have received them, but cannot refuse to accept it (no matter what the denomination) if you have already received the goods (i.e a haircut or dinner).

' invitation to treat'

vs paying legal tender to settle the debt for goods or services all ready recieved / consumed ...

[LoonR1]

btdk5 said:

A) Just get a bankers draft.

B) Stop being a child and order a card/cheque book from your bank.

^^^^^^ This

How do you get hold of this cash if you don't deal with a bank? Do work pay in cash? Do your other bills still accept payment in cash? Few do. How do you pay them? Most don't have a retail outlet to pay through anymore.

What do you do with savings? Is it all under the mattress?

Bizarre approach, or is this another wibblist at work trying to find some stupid excuse to get away with fine.

Ultimately you're choosing to pay by postal order by being so pigheaded, so accept you're going to incur further unnecessary charges by doing so.

Edited by LoonR1 on Friday 25th July 17:52

[BJG1]

deanrufleg said:

Why is it being awkward when one is offering to pay in cash? If that is what I choose to use as my everyday medium to pay for things? No dummy spat out. Indeed almost choked on it with your thought out response.
Good day.

You're the one being awkward - they have offered you numerous, perfectly reasonable ways of paying and you are refusing. I appreciate sorting out the fraud might be a PITA but I fail to see how it's less of a pain than having to pay cash for absolutely everything?

Why don't you just give a mate £65 and get them to pay on their card?