HADECS 3 and the national speed limit
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now, some facts I have accumulated..... on managed motorway sections, only when a lower than national limit is in force, to manage traffic flow, do the overhead gantry cameras work....... they do not enforce the national speed limit.....
these new hadecs 3 cameras, which cover all 3/4 lanes from one camera, from the side of the gantry, as well as being used to manage motorways....
does anyone cateragorically know of any are being used to enforce the national speed limit..... ie when the gantry displays are blank and the motorway is not being managed.....
if any are, can we start a list here and keep it sweet and short for easy reference....
these new hadecs 3 cameras, which cover all 3/4 lanes from one camera, from the side of the gantry, as well as being used to manage motorways....
does anyone cateragorically know of any are being used to enforce the national speed limit..... ie when the gantry displays are blank and the motorway is not being managed.....
if any are, can we start a list here and keep it sweet and short for easy reference....
)70proof said:
does anyone categorically know of any are being used to enforce the national speed limit..... ie when the gantry displays are blank and the motorway is not being managed.....
if any are, can we start a list here and keep it sweet and short for easy reference..
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Yes. I have a NIP in front of me 91/70. M5 J16-17 southbound. According to the internet it's a managed motorway system.if any are, can we start a list here and keep it sweet and short for easy reference..
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agtlaw said:
70proof said:
does anyone categorically know of any are being used to enforce the national speed limit..... ie when the gantry displays are blank and the motorway is not being managed.....
if any are, can we start a list here and keep it sweet and short for easy reference..
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Yes. I have a NIP in front of me 91/70. M5 J16-17 southbound. According to the internet it's a managed motorway system.if any are, can we start a list here and keep it sweet and short for easy reference..
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HADECS3 and HADECS 2 and 2.5 can and do enforce NSL with and without signs lit. You can put NSL on a sign too to show the end of the limit.
70proof said:
now, some facts I have accumulated..... on managed motorway sections, only when a lower than national limit is in force, to manage traffic flow, do the overhead gantry cameras work....... they do not enforce the national speed limit.....
these new hadecs 3 cameras, which cover all 3/4 lanes from one camera, from the side of the gantry, as well as being used to manage motorways....
does anyone cateragorically know of any are being used to enforce the national speed limit..... ie when the gantry displays are blank and the motorway is not being managed.....
if any are, can we start a list here and keep it sweet and short for easy reference....
You have your facts wrong.these new hadecs 3 cameras, which cover all 3/4 lanes from one camera, from the side of the gantry, as well as being used to manage motorways....
does anyone cateragorically know of any are being used to enforce the national speed limit..... ie when the gantry displays are blank and the motorway is not being managed.....
if any are, can we start a list here and keep it sweet and short for easy reference....
They do enforce the NSL. Why would they not?
I was under the understanding the gantry cameras on the M1 enforced the NSL when not displaying a reduced limit though only flashed at >90. In these areas, I always ensure <85mph (speedo indicated).
I assumed the same for the newly introduced HADECS cameras on the M25 and apply a similar speed rule.
I assumed the same for the newly introduced HADECS cameras on the M25 and apply a similar speed rule.
Dairymilk said:
You have your facts wrong.
They do enforce the NSL. Why would they not?
I read they could, capability wise, but no police force did employ them as such, unless the situation has changed.....They do enforce the NSL. Why would they not?
Certainly last year I saw a porker bombing it around the north east section of the m25, well over 100, and not a single flash...
http://foi.west-midlands.police.uk/motorway-camera...
Edited by 70proof on Saturday 26th July 09:07
So should the question be which police forces are enforcing the nsl using hadecs technology...
BTW I'm asking this outta curiosity, on motorways I generally cruise at 70, better for the mpg and makes little time difference in the real world
BTW I'm asking this outta curiosity, on motorways I generally cruise at 70, better for the mpg and makes little time difference in the real world
Edited by 70proof on Saturday 26th July 09:29
moribund said:
Try anything over about 80 on the Leeds - Huddersfield section of the M62 and you'd be in for a shock.
The new cameras on the M25 between the M26 & M23 (there are Two of them on each side just before & after the clacket lane services) work they are always going off I was sitting at an indicated 80mph when the guy beside me went through doing around 85mph & then the evening sky lit upZX10R NIN said:
The new cameras on the M25 between the M26 & M23 (there are Two of them on each side just before & after the clacket lane services) work they are always going off I was sitting at an indicated 80mph when the guy beside me went through doing around 85mph & then the evening sky lit up
The clacket lane cameras are always going off, but they do not seem to "work" - nobody has posted about receiving an NIP from them on any forum as of yet, although I wouldn't be surprised if they did very soon. They went through a stage of flashing almost everyone a couple of months back: I was flashed at 68 in a 70. They seem to have stopped doing that now though, and only flash those over the limit.
Geekman said:
ZX10R NIN said:
The new cameras on the M25 between the M26 & M23 (there are Two of them on each side just before & after the clacket lane services) work they are always going off I was sitting at an indicated 80mph when the guy beside me went through doing around 85mph & then the evening sky lit up
The clacket lane cameras are always going off, but they do not seem to "work" - nobody has posted about receiving an NIP from them on any forum as of yet, although I wouldn't be surprised if they did very soon. They went through a stage of flashing almost everyone a couple of months back: I was flashed at 68 in a 70. They seem to have stopped doing that now though, and only flash those over the limit.
agtlaw said:
Yes. I have a NIP in front of me 91/70. M5 J16-17 southbound. According to the internet it's a managed motorway system.
Interesting.I go North and Southbound on that section almost daily and have on many occasions caught myself drifting over 70 as normally I am doing it at silly times of day and have not had any NIP's yet (touch wood).
Will pay more attention to my speedo through there from now on.
Blakewater said:
Do you know that from experience? Have you had an NIP from speeding on that section, or someone you know?
Not first hand in terms of fines, but have seen plenty of flashes at speeds I'd estimate to be mid to low 80's . Local news confirms active too - just one example:http://www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/local-news/...
moribund said:
Blakewater said:
Do you know that from experience? Have you had an NIP from speeding on that section, or someone you know?
Not first hand in terms of finesagtlaw said:
Yes. I have a NIP in front of me 91/70. M5 J16-17 southbound. According to the internet it's a managed motorway system.
Post a scan of it here please with the personal information removed.However I'm willing to bet like all the other "yes it's true" stories about the motorway speed cams no physical proof of any of these NIPs will be forthcoming....
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