Neutering a male cat that isn't yours
Discussion
Blakewater said:
What about this? Apparently the dog in question was known for going after children. The cat was just a stray that made itself at home with the family when the child was a baby.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6GQR3Ym5M8
Christ, that's worrying. To see that dog just grab that kids leg like that, terrifying. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6GQR3Ym5M8
As for the cat! He looks like he's taking no s
t at all! How he pursues the dog! Excellent. princealbert23 said:
What is more worrying for society is that there seem to be a lot of people who are exhibiting the traits of number 2 here http://listverse.com/2013/01/02/10-most-common-tra...
On the topic I asked around when a tom came into our garden and when no one claimed him had him chopped. The vet commented un-neutered males live much shorter lives and anyone allowing one to remain intact as a pet probably isn't a responsible owner.
The neutered life just feels longer, ask a married man On the topic I asked around when a tom came into our garden and when no one claimed him had him chopped. The vet commented un-neutered males live much shorter lives and anyone allowing one to remain intact as a pet probably isn't a responsible owner.
shoehorn said:
you live in a town don`t you?
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You can not breed out millions of years of evolution with a few hundred years of domestication.
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I beg to differ, looking at the posts on this thread then we have successfully developed a sub breed of knuckle dragger..............................................................................................
You can not breed out millions of years of evolution with a few hundred years of domestication.
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well done everyone !!!!!
I once had a cat that scragged a local urban fox. Having said that, this same cat got scragged once by a squirrel. I kid you not - it was a surprise "squirrel jumping on yer, dude!" attack. The cat scragged me once when I was trying to box it up for a vet trip. I never dared to take on the squirrel.
hedgefinder said:
exactly the point..the walls are built a suitable height to stop the cats from escaping... 
Then your next complaint would be "my cat owning neighbours have erected a 20ft fence* to keep their cats contained within their property, it's like living in a prison! Grumble grumble"- assuming they could get permission to build a fence over 2m
You don't necessarily have to build a high fence, it could just be a fence curved inwards at the top.
The woodland behind my house is full of squirrels which take eggs and chicks from nests. They're always fighting with nesting magpies, which themselves get blamed for drops in small bird numbers. Other issues include drops in insect numbers because of chemicals used in crops, lack of nesting places and increases in predatory birds. It's rather a sweeping statement to blame the issue purely on cats because of one estimation.
The woodland behind my house is full of squirrels which take eggs and chicks from nests. They're always fighting with nesting magpies, which themselves get blamed for drops in small bird numbers. Other issues include drops in insect numbers because of chemicals used in crops, lack of nesting places and increases in predatory birds. It's rather a sweeping statement to blame the issue purely on cats because of one estimation.
Breadvan72 said:
I once had a cat that scragged a local urban fox. Having said that, this same cat got scragged once by a squirrel. I kid you not - it was a surprise "squirrel jumping on yer, dude!" attack. The cat scragged me once when I was trying to box it up for a vet trip. I never dared to take on the squirrel.
Was it this?
Edited by Foxeh on Thursday 31st July 11:04
Blakewater said:
You don't necessarily have to build a high fence, it could just be a fence curved inwards at the top.
The woodland behind my house is full of squirrels which take eggs and chicks from nests. They're always fighting with nesting magpies, which themselves get blamed for drops in small bird numbers. Other issues include drops in insect numbers because of chemicals used in crops, lack of nesting places and increases in predatory birds. It's rather a sweeping statement to blame the issue purely on cats because of one estimation.
I didn't blame anything on anything, just quoted an RSPB estimate.The woodland behind my house is full of squirrels which take eggs and chicks from nests. They're always fighting with nesting magpies, which themselves get blamed for drops in small bird numbers. Other issues include drops in insect numbers because of chemicals used in crops, lack of nesting places and increases in predatory birds. It's rather a sweeping statement to blame the issue purely on cats because of one estimation.
They don't seem very bothered by their estimate and I can't say that I am.
I don't like cats but they don't come into my garden anymore due to the use of an enthusiastic 5 year old and a super soaker.
McGraw said:
Why vaccinate for FLV when your cats aren't going to be exposed to other cats? The vaccination has its risks. Our fear is that if the owner (if there is one) hasn't had the cat done than it may not have had its vaccinations.
I think you should re-evaluate the three risks you mention there. The risk of the vaccination is effectively zero despite the copious amounts of guff on the net on the topic. The risk of contact with other cats is high. Because you have seen one! The risk of that cat being unvaccinated seems likely to be high.mygoldfishbowl said:
You also don't hear about dogs killing everything smaller than themselves.
You may want to read the news, they not only kill things smaller than themselves, but larger than themselves too!To anmswer the OP
McGraw said:
*Please not that I don't intend to do this, it just crossed my mind and I'm interested in the legalities of it*
We are fully registered breeders and keep a couple of our girls active so we can have the ocassional litter with them.
For reasons of unwanted pregnancies, safety and fleas, they live indoors. They have the run of the house and back garden which has high walls that they seem to not be bothered to escape over so we leave them out there semi-supervised.
However, we now have a regular intruder who is very interested in our girls and he is equipped to impregnate them. This has to be avoided due to the possibilities of feline leukaemia which our cats are purposely not vaccinated for, unnecessary preganancies and fleas (kitten killers).
Now we can't really let them out for any period of time on their own and I feel that I shouldn't have to put up with someone else's cat coming on our property and trying to impregnate our girls. Netting the top of the garden is not a possibility.
I'm hoping I can track the owner down and offer to pay for their cat to be snipped but I'm wondering if he could be a bit of a wandering stray so this might not be an option.
What would happen if I nipped him to the vet and had him done?
It would also stop a few unwanted litters in the area as well.
His owner might not like the idea of him being operated on unnecesarily and would no doubt be freaked out by his emasculated moggy turning up one day but would the police even care?
If you let an in season Molly (the correct title We are fully registered breeders and keep a couple of our girls active so we can have the ocassional litter with them.
For reasons of unwanted pregnancies, safety and fleas, they live indoors. They have the run of the house and back garden which has high walls that they seem to not be bothered to escape over so we leave them out there semi-supervised.
However, we now have a regular intruder who is very interested in our girls and he is equipped to impregnate them. This has to be avoided due to the possibilities of feline leukaemia which our cats are purposely not vaccinated for, unnecessary preganancies and fleas (kitten killers).
Now we can't really let them out for any period of time on their own and I feel that I shouldn't have to put up with someone else's cat coming on our property and trying to impregnate our girls. Netting the top of the garden is not a possibility.
I'm hoping I can track the owner down and offer to pay for their cat to be snipped but I'm wondering if he could be a bit of a wandering stray so this might not be an option.
What would happen if I nipped him to the vet and had him done?
It would also stop a few unwanted litters in the area as well.
His owner might not like the idea of him being operated on unnecesarily and would no doubt be freaked out by his emasculated moggy turning up one day but would the police even care?
Queen is a pregnant or nursing cat. Sire/Dam are Breeding titles) outside without having them protected by a run, thena you're going to get every entire Tom in the district coming round to have a go, and very willing Mollys greeting them!The answer to your theorised question is no, it wouldn't be legal.
BTW - merely letting them outside puts them at the risk of fleas; rabbits, hedghogs, foxes etc will all be able to access your garden & leave flea eggs lying around.
Oakey said:
Right, because it's the keepers stopping the big cats scaling the walls, not the fact the walls are 15ft or more in height!
a big cat can jump and scrabble over 15 foot wall as 3 young guys found out in san Francisco zoo few years back when they hung back at closing time and teasing a tiger which got out and mauled them iirc at least one died. wall has to be more like 18 foot.
Stoofa said:
From a legal point of view a cat is a "free spirit" so owners cannot be held responsible for them. With regards toilet behaviour, the majority of cats will bury what they leave behind, dogs certainly don't.
I am a cat lover and used to have one, but our ex-(thankfully)neighbour had a tom cat which used to piss on my car and st on our lawn. He made no attempt to bury it and it was almost dog st sized! I had to get a rubber glove and pick it up before I mowed so as to stop the mower getting full of st.I did try some of those anti-cat/dog crystals and they worked for a little while but I couldn't be bothered to keep using them. Thankfully she/it have moved now.
I've had a few laughs at some of the replies here 
Seriously though, get a water pistol or something and go out there when you let your cats out.
I'm doing this at the moment with a hand pump pressure hose thing as every time our cat goes outside he is attacked or chased off by next doors' cat and doesn't come back until he's gone back inside. The cat has started to learn and is gradually giving our cat more of our garden back and once or twice hasn't attacked, just sits there looking at me.
I do wonder if next door have realised why their perfectly groomed persian comes back looking like this most evenings though...
Seriously though, get a water pistol or something and go out there when you let your cats out.
I'm doing this at the moment with a hand pump pressure hose thing as every time our cat goes outside he is attacked or chased off by next doors' cat and doesn't come back until he's gone back inside. The cat has started to learn and is gradually giving our cat more of our garden back and once or twice hasn't attacked, just sits there looking at me.
I do wonder if next door have realised why their perfectly groomed persian comes back looking like this most evenings though...
I live opposite a Scottish lady who's perfectly nice and literally takes no st. There used to be a woman who lived nextdoor to her with a teenage son who'd perfected the John Travolta strut as he walked up and down the street. They had a couple of big dogs and once these two women had a stand up row outside their houses because the dogs were getting out on their own and stting in the Scottish lady's front garden. The woman who's dogs they were wasn't in the least bit apologetic about it and was totally defiant about it. My neighbours have four dogs and are out everyday clearing up their st, which stinks on hot days, and it's dog st I stand in on the footpaths because, despite special bins and threats of fines, people don't clear up their mess.
The housing estate I live on has a community Facebook page and people have been complaining on there that since there has been a big campaign for dog walkers to clean up the mess their dogs make dog walkers have been collecting up the mess in little bags and then throwing it over people's garden walls, which is utterly bizarre. I think it's just an act of defiance at people telling them they don't want to walk knee deep in the st their darling dogs leave behind. Unsupervised cats making a mess is bad enough. People walking their dogs deliberately leaving st behind or flinging it into people's gardens is far worse.
t. There used to be a woman who lived nextdoor to her with a teenage son who'd perfected the John Travolta strut as he walked up and down the street. They had a couple of big dogs and once these two women had a stand up row outside their houses because the dogs were getting out on their own and stting in the Scottish lady's front garden. The woman who's dogs they were wasn't in the least bit apologetic about it and was totally defiant about it. My neighbours have four dogs and are out everyday clearing up their st, which stinks on hot days, and it's dog st I stand in on the footpaths because, despite special bins and threats of fines, people don't clear up their mess. The housing estate I live on has a community Facebook page and people have been complaining on there that since there has been a big campaign for dog walkers to clean up the mess their dogs make dog walkers have been collecting up the mess in little bags and then throwing it over people's garden walls, which is utterly bizarre. I think it's just an act of defiance at people telling them they don't want to walk knee deep in the s
t their darling dogs leave behind. Unsupervised cats making a mess is bad enough. People walking their dogs deliberately leaving st behind or flinging it into people's gardens is far worse.s3fella said:
Blakewater said:
What about this? Apparently the dog in question was known for going after children. The cat was just a stray that made itself at home with the family when the child was a baby.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6GQR3Ym5M8
Christ, that's worrying. To see that dog just grab that kids leg like that, terrifying. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6GQR3Ym5M8
As for the cat! He looks like he's taking no s
t at all! How he pursues the dog! Excellent. Cats and people that own them are pretty weird normally
It's like the advert... Be more dog.
Edited by jimbop1 on Sunday 3rd August 13:20
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