Man arrested for moaning about running police car
Discussion
turbobloke said:
Can't disagree with that.
Hes not some random, drunken yob thats booted a police car whilst passing the station. Hes gone there with what seems a reasonable complaint and presumably, out of frustration, punched/slapped one of the cars having not got anywhere with his complaint. Presumably the car wasnt damaged. Hopefully the background to the origin of the incident was taken into account when he was arrested. Seems it was once the facts were known and he was kicked out not charged an an apology issued.La Liga said:
Agreed. Why can't there be a "standby / sleep" mode (rather than additional weight as rightly mentioned above)? Perhaps given the increasing green influence on the police, then next generation of software / hardware will have this as a higher consideration.
There are, of course, mechanical considerations. How much does it save on wear and tear when a car is being driven very hard from the off when it's warmed up as oppose to from cold? Especially vehicles with turbos and variable value-type stuff where cold, less viscous oil is far from ideal.
Police 'partner' organisations can be those that want to impose taxation and managed M-ways for the sake of EU standards on air quality. Some police 'partners' seem also intent on creating congestion be it to slow vehicles down, make the roads more hazardous and possibly create the need and case to impose congestion charging schemes. So councils are saying one thing while another public sector organisation they work with seem to be doing quite another? There are, of course, mechanical considerations. How much does it save on wear and tear when a car is being driven very hard from the off when it's warmed up as oppose to from cold? Especially vehicles with turbos and variable value-type stuff where cold, less viscous oil is far from ideal.
'Social Responsibility', being 'Good neighbours', basic consideration? It could be stuff that the police and partner organisations like to espouse but don't think actually applies to them?
I'm not sure where leaving vehicles idle burning fuel sits with police cut backs?
Are alternators that efficient at idle? Is the charge efficiency curve of an alternator just one billiard table flat plateau of charge?
I don't know if devising a pulley setup, like changing a belt driven supercharger pulley, could cause the alternator to turn twice as fast at idle thereby reducing the time these police vehicles need to sit there idling away thereby reducing the fuel bill, the noise pollution and diesel particulate emissions?
Perhaps such a contraption could be branded 'Plod Idle'*?
- Also works on other emergency vehicles such as ambulances and fire engines. Batteries not included. May contain nuts.
Edited by carinaman on Saturday 2nd August 11:47
juggsy said:
Out of sheer curiosity, I've seen on the usual traffic pol shows that you can switch on/off the various lighting rigs independently (front blues, flashers, rear reds, alley lights etc.). I've also seen that there is a '999' button - presumably that just turns the lot on when you need to get somewhere quick.
What's the general policy/etiquette on what combo of lights/sirens to use in which situation? I guess this would also dictate when run lock is needed (i.e. if you've got the lot going when parked up it would require more power).
Loads of optionsWhat's the general policy/etiquette on what combo of lights/sirens to use in which situation? I guess this would also dictate when run lock is needed (i.e. if you've got the lot going when parked up it would require more power).
Meanwhile elsewhere in the great festering metrollopes that is London...
Islington considering fines for idling vehicles
Seriously people get your s
t together.
No doubt there would be an exemption for "police purposes" and then wonder why accusations of "don't do what I do but..." and comments about the left hand asking "what is this right hand that I hear so much about."
Obviously someone somewhere has an agenda about diesel and is just trying to push as many buttons as possible but this country at times is a joke.
Islington considering fines for idling vehicles
Seriously people get your s
t together. No doubt there would be an exemption for "police purposes" and then wonder why accusations of "don't do what I do but..." and comments about the left hand asking "what is this right hand that I hear so much about."
Obviously someone somewhere has an agenda about diesel and is just trying to push as many buttons as possible but this country at times is a joke.
FiF said:
Meanwhile elsewhere in the great festering metrollopes that is London...
Islington considering fines for idling vehicles
Seriously people get your st together.
No doubt there would be an exemption for "police purposes" and then wonder why accusations of "don't do what I do but..." and comments about the left hand asking "what is this right hand that I hear so much about."
Obviously someone somewhere has an agenda about diesel and is just trying to push as many buttons as possible but this country at times is a joke.
Islington considering fines for idling vehicles
Seriously people get your s
t together. No doubt there would be an exemption for "police purposes" and then wonder why accusations of "don't do what I do but..." and comments about the left hand asking "what is this right hand that I hear so much about."
Obviously someone somewhere has an agenda about diesel and is just trying to push as many buttons as possible but this country at times is a joke.
article said:
...drivers who refuse to turn off their engines while waiting could be fined £20, which would rise to £40 if it is not paid promptly...
Procrastinators must pollute more 
Islington will of course employ scrubbers, human or mechanical, to scrub the air, paying for them with money from fines (given that engines will have been left running, the regulation will have had no effect).
These scrubbers will be busy on windy days - or more will need to be bought and paid for - as there will be more air passing through Islington, all of it in need of a good scrubbing.
Makes total sense
mel said:
Loads of options
Haha great.Looks like the Daily Fail has got hold of this now as a bigger 'story': http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2715312/Po...
juggsy said:
Looks like the Daily Fail has got hold of this now as a bigger 'story': http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2715312/Po...
If the council slaps the fines on police cars if they're left running then perhaps the police will alter their procurement standards so they specify, procure, commission and use computers that can work without having to have the engine running? Computers in cars aren't new s
t. Was it an Audi or BMW advert that proclaimed that their cars had more computing power than was used to put man on the moon? Almost half a century later we can't have computers in police cars that can function without having the engines running?I think even the Chartered Engineers at the Highways Agency that ordered the wrong Matrix signs could sort this one out.
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