Police Scotland - Officers routinely carrying guns.
Discussion
Terzo123 said:
carinaman said:
The Ashya King case shows the less powers some of these people have the better it'll be for all of us.
European Arrest Warrant my posterior.
I'm really struggling to see what the Ashya King case has got to do with this.European Arrest Warrant my posterior.
AndrewEH1 said:
What's all the chat about U-Turns too...
They'll still be armed, but just sat in a car/station waiting for a shout.
No, they won't. Armed Officers tend to be dual or even tri-role in my area so the chances of someone "sat waiting for a shout" is highly unlikely. They'll still be armed, but just sat in a car/station waiting for a shout.
Edited by AndrewEH1 on Wednesday 1st October 16:33
Rovinghawk said:
AndrewEH1 said:
A step backward IMO...
Lots of sitting around for armed officers when they could be working on 'normal' calls.
They could always lock the weapons up in a gun safe until they're needed.Lots of sitting around for armed officers when they could be working on 'normal' calls.
RogueTrooper said:
Rovinghawk said:
AndrewEH1 said:
A step backward IMO...
Lots of sitting around for armed officers when they could be working on 'normal' calls.
They could always lock the weapons up in a gun safe until they're needed.Lots of sitting around for armed officers when they could be working on 'normal' calls.
PHer :we pay too much tax make the police work harder
PCC: ch COns make them work harder
ChCons : i'll triple role the ARVs as traffic and area cars
PHer : we don;t like the guns on show can they put them away
chCons : I don;t think it;s good idea as the reason they open carry is because of evolving incidents
PCC : Shut up moaning polddie, do it, I want to keep my snout in the gravy trough
PHer : why were all those people killed in the psree shooting despite it being in the middle of town and an ARV being sat outside the doughnut shop
ChCons: becasue you insisted that we made the ARV officers officers put their guns in the gun safe and they were pinned into the doughnut shop because they only had their baton and spray ...
Eclassy said:
Result.
We dont want US type police shootings where innocent citizens are shot for following police commands.
Where else does that occur where ARVs attend non-firearms incidents in the UK? We dont want US type police shootings where innocent citizens are shot for following police commands.
That's the conflict with serving the public. Most of them possess the apparent lack of rationality you do.
I'm disappointed that the CC hasn't been resilient to ignore this rubbish, but as long as the AFOs continue to back their colleagues up (so the risk of this decision lies with the public, not officers) I'm happy for fewer incidents to be attended.
340600 said:
AndrewEH1 said:
What's all the chat about U-Turns too...
They'll still be armed, but just sat in a car/station waiting for a shout.
No, they won't. Armed Officers tend to be dual or even tri-role in my area so the chances of someone "sat waiting for a shout" is highly unlikely. They'll still be armed, but just sat in a car/station waiting for a shout.
BBC article said:
But today they've announced that officers attached to armed response vehicles will now only be used for specific incidents or if there is a threat to life.
Ours get involved in all sorts, our neighbouring force has them going to everything from traffic matters to domestics and the body count is still and will remain zero.
Let's hope they fail their response times when this (although small) pool of officers are not able to deploy to something under their noses and people come on here to quim about it.
Let's hope they fail their response times when this (although small) pool of officers are not able to deploy to something under their noses and people come on here to quim about it.
If you want to argue the case that locking up the guns in safes will slow response times (maximum 1 minute added, I'd imagine), you might as well argue the case that all police officers should be armed.
Anyone seen this video
http://youtu.be/eo0d6Q4RVno
Or this
http://youtu.be/-XFYTtgZAlE
This is what would start happening in this country if we allow our policemen to routinely carry guns. Imagine if the muppet who tased a blind man with a stick had a gun?!
Anyone seen this video
http://youtu.be/eo0d6Q4RVno
Or this
http://youtu.be/-XFYTtgZAlE
This is what would start happening in this country if we allow our policemen to routinely carry guns. Imagine if the muppet who tased a blind man with a stick had a gun?!
Edited by Eclassy on Wednesday 1st October 18:43
Eclassy said:
If you want to argue the case that locking up the guns in safes will slow response times (maximum 1 minute added, I'd imagine), you might as well argue the case that all police officers should be armed.
Anyone seen this video
http://youtu.be/eo0d6Q4RVno
Or this
http://youtu.be/-XFYTtgZAlE
This is what would start happening in this country if we allow our policemen to routinely carry guns. Imagine if the muppet who tased a blind man with a stick had a gun?!
But this isn't about Cops being routinely armed. Thats a totally different arguement. Anyone seen this video
http://youtu.be/eo0d6Q4RVno
Or this
http://youtu.be/-XFYTtgZAlE
This is what would start happening in this country if we allow our policemen to routinely carry guns. Imagine if the muppet who tased a blind man with a stick had a gun?!
Edited by Eclassy on Wednesday 1st October 18:43
This is about whether dedicated armed units should be going out on routine patrol duties (They represent less than 5% of the force, there or there abouts)
Eclassy said:
If you want to argue the case that locking up the guns in safes will slow response times (maximum 1 minute added, I'd imagine), you might as well argue the case that all police officers should be armed.
Anyone seen this video
http://youtu.be/eo0d6Q4RVno
Or this
http://youtu.be/-XFYTtgZAlE
This is what would start happening in this country if we allow our policemen to routinely carry guns. Imagine if the muppet who tased a blind man with a stick had a gun?!
Completely missing the point as usualAnyone seen this video
http://youtu.be/eo0d6Q4RVno
Or this
http://youtu.be/-XFYTtgZAlE
This is what would start happening in this country if we allow our policemen to routinely carry guns. Imagine if the muppet who tased a blind man with a stick had a gun?!
Edited by Eclassy on Wednesday 1st October 18:43
Eclassy said:
This is what would start happening in this country if we allow our policemen to routinely carry guns. Imagine if the muppet who tased a blind man with a stick had a gun?!
They do routinely carry the firearms - the standing order isn't there for fun.... Have you read the actual link? Or at least taken the time to understand it? Less posting time, more thinking time may help.
It's which incidents they attend that's under debate.
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