Police Scotland - Officers routinely carrying guns.
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Devil2575 said:
Ukcolumn news? What's that?
Some wibble garbage on YouTube, which speculates and evidently does no research (see here). Various topics (no matter how old or dead) have to endure Carinaman searching for them for him to post a link with no opinion, no commentary and no qualification of any sort. I bet 90% of their appalling viewing figures on YouTube views come from here.
It's all very well slating tinfoil news channels, but it was mirth inducing that Police Scotland lost all the stop of search records of children because a programmer pressed the wrong button. Such woeful IT ineptitude didn't stop Police Scotland being awarded their Safer Internet Day certificate though. So that's OK.
Backing up data in 2015 isn't Rocket Science.
Shame they lost the records of the 12 year olds they were searching. Some of those could probably make a better fist of running Police Scotland's IT. I bet a few of them know a bit about backing up data and why it's important too.
Backing up data in 2015 isn't Rocket Science.
Shame they lost the records of the 12 year olds they were searching. Some of those could probably make a better fist of running Police Scotland's IT. I bet a few of them know a bit about backing up data and why it's important too.
La Liga said:
They could probably do a better job of finding credible news sources, too, as opposed to ones which can't even use Google for 30 seconds to find out whether or not the NPCC is a private company or not.
I've not listened to all of this:http://www.ukcolumn.org/audio/bbc-nicola-stanbridg...
I found the tone a bit threatening. It reminded me of when some nice police officers tried to lean on me.
The UK Column is privately funded and relies on subscriptions. Given all of the sexual abuse cases that the establishment, including the police, seem to have been covering up, why are they having to ask the publicly funded BBC, that I thought had be classified as a tax by some government statistics agency, why they're not covering sexual crimes against children in Oxfordshire? Why aren't the media interested in covering it?
How many official police Twitter accounts have sent out the message that children with accusations of being sexually abused should be believed?
Where does that sit with how the child sexual abuse in Oxfordshire hasn't been properly investigated?
The UK Column seem to think that Sara Thornton shouldn't be heading up the NPCC due to the way TVP hasn't properly investigated child sexual abuse in Oxford. 'Reward for failure' is a common theme in the mainstream media being in the Quango infested public sector or big business. Her progression upward could be compared to Lin Homer's?
Sara Thornton has been promoted out of the way or been promoted due to her connections?
Not her kids getting sexually abused in Oxford was it, just as it wasn't her kids getting sexually abused in Rotherham.
Who says the Constable's Oath with the expectation that they'll be ordered to turned a blind eye to sexual offences against children?
So plod are protecting paedos while 12 year olds get searched without the presence of a responsible adult on the say so of a police constable?
So were the 12 year olds in Scotland searched for wearing the wrong shirt, pulling a funny face, being autistic, being cheerful, being female or being a bit darker than the average Scot?
We wont know will we as a 'programmer' deleted all of the records and there wasn't a back up of that data.
A likely tale. It doesn't even sound plausible if it's said in a Scottish accent.
Edited by carinaman on Monday 13th April 02:26
Smoke and mirrors it all you like with your usual incoherence, you presented them as a credible "news" source who were claiming the NPCC's status was unknown, when in fact a quick search (which has nothing to do with funding) revealed the answer.
There's no excuse not for them to have not done their primary research. If you're going to bump up lots of topics with links, then at least do it to credible, competent sources.
There's no excuse not for them to have not done their primary research. If you're going to bump up lots of topics with links, then at least do it to credible, competent sources.
AndrewEH1 said:
I stupidly watched the first linked video for about 20 minutes, I love the way the pair of them jump from topic to topic without there being any reasonable link and say there is a link and wibble about it...
I watched a bit of it too and just ended up wondering "Who the f
k are these two idiots".It's looks very much like a couple of tinfoil hatters have set themselves up to talk b
ks on the internet.This is good, "let's get into police training" around 31:55.
Apparently police diversity training "lowers empathy and encourages racial bigotry - tension in the police".
I distinctly remember when going through our failings over Stephen Lawrence that the trainer was secretly trying to prep us for a race war...
Apparently police diversity training "lowers empathy and encourages racial bigotry - tension in the police".
I distinctly remember when going through our failings over Stephen Lawrence that the trainer was secretly trying to prep us for a race war...
tuggish hair cuts and tattoos? 
carinaman you really have scraped the bottom of the barrel!
carinaman you really have scraped the bottom of the barrel!
La Liga said:
Apparently police diversity training "lowers empathy and encourages racial bigotry - tension in the police".
I distinctly remember when going through our failings over Stephen Lawrence that the trainer was secretly trying to prep us for a race war...
Although the two full days of diversity training I got did make me want to start a riot...I distinctly remember when going through our failings over Stephen Lawrence that the trainer was secretly trying to prep us for a race war...
Edited by AndrewEH1 on Monday 13th April 12:35
AndrewEH1 said:
thuggish hair cuts and tattoos?
carinaman you really have scraped the bottom of the barrel!
Indeed. I wish ATVOD had shut them down by now so as to spare my blushes.carinaman you really have scraped the bottom of the barrel!
AndrewEH1 said:
La Liga said:
Apparently police diversity training "lowers empathy and encourages racial bigotry - tension in the police".
I distinctly remember when going through our failings over Stephen Lawrence that the trainer was secretly trying to prep us for a race war...
Although the two full days of diversity training I got did make me want to start a riot... I distinctly remember when going through our failings over Stephen Lawrence that the trainer was secretly trying to prep us for a race war...
Here's another few "rotten apples"
http://www.bentlawyersandcops.com/bent_cops_list.h...
Apparently "less than a tenth" of what they have on file, and doesn't include the "….many other officers (who) helped them in concealing crimes but could not be charged due to a lack of evidence…"
Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear oh dear.
Probably better policemen aren't routinely armed if this many of them are bent.
http://www.bentlawyersandcops.com/bent_cops_list.h...
Apparently "less than a tenth" of what they have on file, and doesn't include the "….many other officers (who) helped them in concealing crimes but could not be charged due to a lack of evidence…"
Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear oh dear.
Probably better policemen aren't routinely armed if this many of them are bent.
carinaman said:
I've experienced some PC on message police officers. Seems they forget about all that diversity stuff if it gets in the way of personal grudges and vendettas from my experience.
I thought the diversity stuff was negative, according to the news source you rely on for bumping topics and presenting as fact. It doesn't matter to you. As long as you go for volume of information, some of it may be true. Throw enough mud and all that (queue incoherent irrelevant links about whoever).
drainbrain said:
Here's another few "rotten apples"
http://www.bentlawyersandcops.com/bent_cops_list.h...
Apparently "less than a tenth" of what they have on file, and doesn't include the "….many other officers (who) helped them in concealing crimes but could not be charged due to a lack of evidence…"
Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear oh dear.
Probably better policemen aren't routinely armed if this many of them are bent.
That is a high quality website with some really good primary sources. I expect you need something similar to what your username describes to use it as fact. http://www.bentlawyersandcops.com/bent_cops_list.h...
Apparently "less than a tenth" of what they have on file, and doesn't include the "….many other officers (who) helped them in concealing crimes but could not be charged due to a lack of evidence…"
Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear oh dear.
Probably better policemen aren't routinely armed if this many of them are bent.
drainbrain said:
Here's another few "rotten apples"
http://www.bentlawyersandcops.com/bent_cops_list.h...
Apparently "less than a tenth" of what they have on file, and doesn't include the "….many other officers (who) helped them in concealing crimes but could not be charged due to a lack of evidence…"
Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear oh dear.
Probably better policemen aren't routinely armed if this many of them are bent.
Try googling just a few of those, then come back and say that is a trustworthy source..........http://www.bentlawyersandcops.com/bent_cops_list.h...
Apparently "less than a tenth" of what they have on file, and doesn't include the "….many other officers (who) helped them in concealing crimes but could not be charged due to a lack of evidence…"
Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear oh dear.
Probably better policemen aren't routinely armed if this many of them are bent.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jul/25/she...
How many police officers were there?
How many of them had been taught about positional asphyxiation during their training?
But they can be trusted to follow their training when it comes to carrying guns and their use?
How many police officers were there?
How many of them had been taught about positional asphyxiation during their training?
But they can be trusted to follow their training when it comes to carrying guns and their use?
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jul/25/she...
Who needs guns when you can do a Big Daddy Splash?
Who needs guns when you can do a Big Daddy Splash?
carinaman said:
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jul/25/she...
How many police officers were there?
How many of them had been taught about positional asphyxiation during their training?
But they can be trusted to follow their training when it comes to carrying guns and their use?
Always had plenty of training in relation to positional asphyxia and excited delirium, however its down to someone involved in the struggle to take control once its over and get the subject sat up or on their side once properly retrained - saw plenty of cases where they were still restrained face down with pressure on their backs - recipe for disaster especially after a lengthy struggleHow many police officers were there?
How many of them had been taught about positional asphyxiation during their training?
But they can be trusted to follow their training when it comes to carrying guns and their use?
The family solicitor is quite happy to talk about the negative-sounding aspects of the incident i.e. the possible cause of death, the PAVA being used within 45 seconds etc. But when asked about the circumstances / reason the police were detaining Bayoh, he insisted those were matters which had to be independently verified by the PIRC. Interesting how some aspects (probably the ones which reflect negatively on the person you are representing) are a matter for the investigation and need to be verified, yet other aspects aren't.
The Fed General Secretary sums it up well, "Reacting to snippets of information that may or may not be true whilst an investigation is under way is not in anyone’s best interests."
I'd love to hear Ukcolumn.org's take on the matter.
The Fed General Secretary sums it up well, "Reacting to snippets of information that may or may not be true whilst an investigation is under way is not in anyone’s best interests."
I'd love to hear Ukcolumn.org's take on the matter.
La Liga said:
The family solicitor is quite happy to talk about the negative-sounding aspects of the incident i.e. the possible cause of death, the PAVA being used within 45 seconds etc. But when asked about the circumstances / reason the police were detaining Bayoh, he insisted those were matters which had to be independently verified by the PIRC. Interesting how some aspects (probably the ones which reflect negatively on the person you are representing) are a matter for the investigation and need to be verified, yet other aspects aren't.
The Fed General Secretary sums it up well, "Reacting to snippets of information that may or may not be true whilst an investigation is under way is not in anyone’s best interests."
I'd love to hear Ukcolumn.org's take on the matter.
Sounds like the reverse of what happens on here.... "you know nothing - on your way" The Fed General Secretary sums it up well, "Reacting to snippets of information that may or may not be true whilst an investigation is under way is not in anyone’s best interests."
I'd love to hear Ukcolumn.org's take on the matter.
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