Caught Speeding by Bike Cop
Discussion
bad company said:
But I thought he wasn't cautioned?
There's the caution, and there's being cautioned. It depends on the context it's being used in. Being cautioned means being read your rights i.e you do not have to say anything etc.Receiving a caution, is a form of disposal. I.e like a PND.
Mk3Spitfire said:
You no longer need any paper work to be reported for the offence. If you are reported, you are cautioned at the roadside and informed that the facts will be reported.
The officer then returns to the station and fills in the relevant offence card and submits it.
The offender then receives something in the post within 14 days.
A producer would not be issued for speeding. A producer is for insurance/licence checks. An FPN would be the paperwork you had at the roadside before. FPN's are being steadily phased out in favour of reporting for offences.
I dont know why people on here are suggesting the OP will not hear anything further. For such a breach of the speeding laws, I doubt very much the paper work will get lost on this occasion.
I`m not sure of the relevance of 14 days if you have received a caution by the roadside ? The 6 month rule applies here. If the driver is not stopped at the time then the 14 day NIP rule applies.The officer then returns to the station and fills in the relevant offence card and submits it.
The offender then receives something in the post within 14 days.
A producer would not be issued for speeding. A producer is for insurance/licence checks. An FPN would be the paperwork you had at the roadside before. FPN's are being steadily phased out in favour of reporting for offences.
I dont know why people on here are suggesting the OP will not hear anything further. For such a breach of the speeding laws, I doubt very much the paper work will get lost on this occasion.
"Producer`s" are rare these days as almost all checks from Driving Licence status , insurance and voter register etc etc can be done over the radio. They used to be given out when you got reported because the officer would retain the original with all your details on it to write the process book out later. The only thing they needed ontop of the info on the producer was the reply to caution and a description of the offender. This is crucial as 6 months down the line at court, the question can be asked of the officer, " is this the man you stopped?".... unless he had a very good memory or a detailed description ( think tattoos or scars etc ) then the answer would honestly have to be "I dont know" which equals doubt , which equals , case thrown out. It wouldn`t be too difficult for like minded individuals to give brothers , sisters or best mates details when stopped and get away with it.
In this case the OP stated he has NOT BEEN cautioned ( unless he missed it )and not offered anything to sign as his reply to caution.
The speed factor is irrelevant as to whether he will be reported or not. Its entirely down to the copper as to whether he can be bothered. I imagine stopping people for speeding is a very regular occurrence and I doubt he would get too excited unless the speed was outrageously high ( like over double the limit in a stupid place )
rufusgti said:
Speaking with a biker traffic cop a few weeks ago was pretty interesting. He said he very rarely gives any fixed penalties for speeding. Said he just lets the courts deal with it. But he then said that unfortunately the courts are upping their game with regards to fines, bans and prison sentences.
Make of that what you will.
IME if you have been stopped by a biker cop the chances are you are in for a telling off or need to prepare for court. 85 in a 70 will be unlikely to raise more than a wry smile.Make of that what you will.
bad company said:
Rude-boy said:
85 in a 70 will be unlikely to raise more than a wry smile.
Yes but the op was doing 75 in a 40 limit.
Sorry if I wasn't clear enough. What I was getting at is that for a bike cop to stop you you have either been drifting round a rural roundabout at 3am and he wants to talk to you about not doing it on the public road and to check you're not tanked up, etc or you have been near doubling the legal limit. They tend to have a lot more personal discretion and so only deal with those that need a word or those that are taking the piss. There's enough in those two camps to leave Mrs 34 in a 30 or Mr 85 in a 70 to PC Flatfoot.
Mk3Spitfire said:
CGJJ said:
Lets hope the bike cop hadn't had his calibration done ;-)
Motorbike cops are calibrated every morning. Without fail. They have a probe inserted and have to sit very still until the machine beeps. Then they are free to go. So there is no hope of this.
Just to clarify
- I did not sign anything
- He did not fill anything out on the side of the road
- He cautioned me "you have the right to remain silent....."
- He also stated he would be reporting me for careless driving and it was up to someone else if they want to prosecute.
- I asked what happens next. Was told that I might get something in the post in the next 14 days and likely 3-5 points.
- I drive an M3 and that picks up speed pretty damn quickly. I would have been in the 40-75mph ish zone for not more than 150 metres before braking for a roundabout. For those short seconds I was at that speed I did not look at the speedo but more on the road ahead which for the record had no cars in front of me.
- I did not sign anything
- He did not fill anything out on the side of the road
- He cautioned me "you have the right to remain silent....."
- He also stated he would be reporting me for careless driving and it was up to someone else if they want to prosecute.
- I asked what happens next. Was told that I might get something in the post in the next 14 days and likely 3-5 points.
- I drive an M3 and that picks up speed pretty damn quickly. I would have been in the 40-75mph ish zone for not more than 150 metres before braking for a roundabout. For those short seconds I was at that speed I did not look at the speedo but more on the road ahead which for the record had no cars in front of me.
Edited by Rahul uk on Monday 18th August 19:57
You do not need to sign anything.
He does not need to fill anything out at the road side.
That's the American caution, but yes, you should be cautioned whenever an offence is suspected.
Someone in an office reads officers report and decides if there's sufficient evidence/if it's in the public interest to summons.
Driving an M3 will not be a valid excuse for leniency.
Personally I find it very unlikely you won't get summons. Turning a blind eye to twice the speed limit is unlikely and frankly unprofessional.
He does not need to fill anything out at the road side.
That's the American caution, but yes, you should be cautioned whenever an offence is suspected.
Someone in an office reads officers report and decides if there's sufficient evidence/if it's in the public interest to summons.
Driving an M3 will not be a valid excuse for leniency.
Personally I find it very unlikely you won't get summons. Turning a blind eye to twice the speed limit is unlikely and frankly unprofessional.
Rahul uk said:
What I will say is that the whole experience has made me extremely aware of what my speedo is telling me now.
I fully understand that. After my pull I spent 6 months (the time limit for a summons) driving like I was at a funeral. If the policeman's intention was to worry me enough to slow down he certainly achieved that.Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff