Can a scamera van get you in the 'other direction'?

Can a scamera van get you in the 'other direction'?

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StuntmanMike

11,671 posts

151 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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What's a PCoJ ?

tenpenceshort

32,880 posts

217 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Perverting the course of justice.

shakermikee

567 posts

155 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Description of what happened in the OP's first post is exactly what happened to me 2.5 years ago.

Had my day in court 6 months later and 'lucky' to get 6 points and hefty fine instead of a ban.

Hope the OP has better luck than I did.

Corpulent Tosser

5,459 posts

245 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Aren't the speed safety vans operators supposed to identify a vehicle they judge to be speeding before training the camera on them rather than a blanket record every vehicle's speed. If so they would not have time to make that judgement of the OP.

I seem to recall reading recently about a civilian operator using the record them all method and some tickets being cancelled.

I will have to do a search.

supermono

7,368 posts

248 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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There are APCO guidelines which are ignored by the a-holes in the camera vans. They are running a business and the OPs description of the prime site (first bit of straight road to catch those making proper use of it) proves this. Guidelines are simply an obstacle to profit pure and simple.

Once again, there is more than the critical mass of stupid people who believe the nonsensical notion that the industrial scale attack on speeders is based on safety that they are free to continue their parasitic venture, delivering the square root of eff all benefit to anyone but their shareholders.

XJ Flyer

5,526 posts

130 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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supermono said:
There are APCO guidelines which are ignored by the a-holes in the camera vans. They are running a business and the OPs description of the prime site (first bit of straight road to catch those making proper use of it) proves this. Guidelines are simply an obstacle to profit pure and simple.

Once again, there is more than the critical mass of stupid people who believe the nonsensical notion that the industrial scale attack on speeders is based on safety that they are free to continue their parasitic venture, delivering the square root of eff all benefit to anyone but their shareholders.
^ This.

Plus the fact that the idea is also about trying to make car use 'less attractive' to appease the environmentalists and public transport operators.

Mr Taxpayer

438 posts

120 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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I was taught on my advance motorcyclist's course that it is acceptable to go over the limit while overtaking, as this reduces the amount of time that you are in the hazard area, i.e the wrong side of the carriageway. Obviously you return to the legal speed as soon as you have crossed back to the correct side of the cariageway. The thinking being the excessive speed is safer than the wrong position. 'Position,gear, speed' is a hierachy, not just a catchy saying.

This scamera van sounds like it's purpose is to slow people down at the end of the straight so that they can safely negotiate the series of bends that follow.

Martin_M

2,071 posts

227 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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Can I just clarify - with regard to the vans that can catch you both ways, are you saying that the camera operator would take a reading from through the front windscreen or would the car be parked side on and have a window on either side?

shep1001

4,600 posts

189 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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Martin_M said:
Can I just clarify - with regard to the vans that can catch you both ways, are you saying that the camera operator would take a reading from through the front windscreen or would the car be parked side on and have a window on either side?
No they capture the speeder moving towards or away from the laser be that out of the back or the side window however the van is set up. The little dome cameras you see on the side & front of the vans are CCTV, there to protect the operator, if they happen to catch an image of a passing car missing the all important plate used to identify the vehicle then.....

Martin_M

2,071 posts

227 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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Gotya!

tvrolet

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4,270 posts

282 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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Well, some weeks on and nothing ominous has dropped through me letter box smile So we can't conclude scamera vans definitely cannot get you going in the 'other direction', but in this case at least they didn't.

emmaT2014

1,860 posts

116 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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tvrolet said:
Well, some weeks on and nothing ominous has dropped through me letter box smile So we can't conclude scamera vans definitely cannot get you going in the 'other direction', but in this case at least they didn't.
You can't conclude that and if you did you would be wrong because they can and do.

tvrolet

Original Poster:

4,270 posts

282 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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emmaT2014 said:
tvrolet said:
Well, some weeks on and nothing ominous has dropped through me letter box smile So we can't conclude scamera vans definitely cannot get you going in the 'other direction', but in this case at least they didn't.
You can't conclude that and if you did you would be wrong because they can and do.
scratchchin so we can't conclude we can't conclude?

shoehorn

686 posts

143 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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9mm said:
and it most definitely does you from behind,
hehe
closer to the truth than you might think.