Very nice policeman today, VERY decent.
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Curiously, we also saw an unmarked police Volvo on the M40 at lunchtime today. It was quickly followed by a uniform car which used the hard shoulder to go past us in the inside lane which would have been fine if it hadn't started to move out as it was alongside us, causing us to swerve. Not the best driving but there you go
ETA: This was just before J4 at High Wycombe. Both had lights and sirens.
ETA: This was just before J4 at High Wycombe. Both had lights and sirens.
Edited by Silver on Sunday 24th August 19:30
Steviesam said:
lol, Why would I lie?
I am 42 years old, not 12.
A newish saloon Volvo, had strobes behind the front grill and at the back, and inside the back window was a POLICE sign in red (the ones that light up)
My first post explained pretty much what happened,-he asked if I would like to see the video (I declined), he asked if I had my license (I did) which he and his colleague looked at (in their car) and when he returned he gave me a talking to as described. He was pleasant and professional.
Why would a fake cop pull anyone over?
Because PH is full of sad people.I am 42 years old, not 12.
A newish saloon Volvo, had strobes behind the front grill and at the back, and inside the back window was a POLICE sign in red (the ones that light up)
My first post explained pretty much what happened,-he asked if I would like to see the video (I declined), he asked if I had my license (I did) which he and his colleague looked at (in their car) and when he returned he gave me a talking to as described. He was pleasant and professional.
Why would a fake cop pull anyone over?
I don't even think you own a car that can do 105 mph... Stop lying!!!
tenpenceshort said:
In the end, uniform or not, the officers had a common law power to stop the OP and the only difference is that the OP could have ignored them and not committed an offence under s163. It would be a hollow victory, as I imagine they might use the failure to stop as justification for a more robust approach leading, I imagine, to the OP being reported for a speed likely to see him off the road for a short time.
That's not quite right, 10PS. Case law indicates that the common law power is to request a stop, not to compel one. That point may not make much difference in this case, but it could in others, such as a plain clothes officer stopping a car in an urban setting for a reason unrelated to a motoring offence.Breadvan72 said:
That's not quite right, 10PS. Case law indicates that the common law power is to request a stop, not to compel one. That point may not make much difference in this case, but it could in others, such as a plain clothes officer stopping a car in an urban setting for a reason unrelated to a motoring offence.
Sorry if I worded it badly, however that's what I meant (that the stop wasn't unlawful, as a common law power exists, even if it doesn't compel the subject to abide by it).We may have read the same authority on it today at some point...
Edited by tenpenceshort on Sunday 24th August 19:37
OH was pulled over by a plain clothes policeman though he does admit he was driving like a bit of a t
t beforehand (late for a funeral of all things). Apparently, they ended up alongside each other at a set of lights, policeman wound down his window to show his ID and told OH to pull over for a chat.
t beforehand (late for a funeral of all things). Apparently, they ended up alongside each other at a set of lights, policeman wound down his window to show his ID and told OH to pull over for a chat.birdcage said:
I got pulled over by two policemen in an unmarked car and they were CID and said they could not give me a ticket as they were plain clothed but I was messing around and they wanted to issue a warning.
So, no uniform no jurisdiction?
That is not quite correct. You would not have been committing an offence if you had not stopped or had driven away, but once you had stopped the officers had normal police powers and could have given you notice of intent to prosecute for an offence. Section 163 is a civil liberty measure but is rather toothless in practice. So, no uniform no jurisdiction?
Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 24th August 19:39
These things do happen. In March 13 I was nipping to Asda with my mate & as he'd never been in my Boxster I thought I'd show him what it could do. Pulled into the car park & an unmarked BMW followed us in & promptly got me in the back seat.
He then showed me video of me doing 102 on the motorway and (very briefly) 78 in a 30 zone (It's a locally renowned dual carriageway speed entrapment cash cow before you get the pitchforks out).
I thought I was done for but all I got was a section something or other, which would mean if I got done doing similar in the next year they could crush my car.
He was a nice chap & explained that I wasn't getting charged as I had driven safely & considerately & at no time endangered other road users, although he also said if he caught me doing those speeds again he'd quite rightly throw the book at me.
rouge59 said:
I thought I was done for but all I got was a section something or other...
You possibly and probably received a 'Section 59' notice.If you did, then I would re-read and take to heart the implications of it, if it was a Section 59.
It's not something that I would dismiss as 'something or other...' it's actually a wee bit grave and pretty flipping serious and heavy?
Please do check up on it!
Ray Luxury-Yacht said:
You possibly and probably received a 'Section 59' notice.
If you did, then I would re-read and take to heart the implications of it, if it was a Section 59.
It's not something that I would dismiss as 'something or other...' it's actually a wee bit grave and pretty flipping serious and heavy?
Please do check up on it!
I had one until it expired last year, couldn't see any major implications to having one? Certainly not something I'd class as serious anyway.If you did, then I would re-read and take to heart the implications of it, if it was a Section 59.
It's not something that I would dismiss as 'something or other...' it's actually a wee bit grave and pretty flipping serious and heavy?
Please do check up on it!
Breadvan72 said:
It's a curious PH habit, judging people by reference to the job that they happen to do, but it seems mainly to be applied to police officers, lawyers, and sometimes doctors. Is it assumed that people are born to their jobs and that everything they say is influenced by their job?
Should be like water off a ducks back to Cops on here
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